Addicted to Diet Pepsi
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Water is boring! I can’t drink water. Maybe a couple of sips and I’m done. And I’d rather drink regular coke and fit that into my calories then nast diet sodas.6
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Ummmm, that’s not two litres of chemicals. It’s mostly dihydrogen monoxide.
http://static.diabetesselfmanagement.com/pdfs/DSM0310_012.pdf
Consuming 2 litres of Diet Coke would equate to 8 grams of aspartame.6 -
omg I love diet coke and diet pepso3
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psychod787 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »...but there certainly are health risks.
Such as?
Honestly the only reason people think diet soda is a health risk is because there are a lot of people on the internet making vague assertions in forum posts and blog articles and since people see lots of assertions they just assume there is some sort of truth to it. Posts like this just add to that misinformation and I'm getting tired of it. There is no evidence that diet soda presents any sort of health risk. If you are going to claim that it does cause health problems you should back that claim up with at least something.
Diet soda is a big fat nothing, it doesn't help your health, it doesn't hurt your health...yet people obsess over it. It is irrational.
https://youtu.be/Dod6bUZYz4w
I started watching this bracing myself for some b.s. but actually this guy seems to know what he is talking about....better than most of what is out there that is for sure. That said I can't say that youtube videos, forum posts and bloggers are your best sources of information.3 -
To the OP, I found it wasn't the diet cola I was addicted to. It was the caffeine plus that particular carbonation. Over time I reduced the diet cola and added a cup of green tea in the afternoon and la croix sparkling water when I felt like I wanted a carbonated beverage until I wasn't drinking diet cola. My caffeine habit is large - I drink a lot of coffee every morning. I might have 12 oz of la croix a day or I might not. I now find artificially sweetened beverages pretty bad-tasting. Am I healthier as a result of making these changes? I dunno. All of this is to say if you want to stop drinking diet cola, go ahead. See what your own experience is.5
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From the stroke, I had apparently weird, healthy tastes. I cannot taste diet cola and thinking something's wrong with it, my perchant for hamburger and no fries (I don't know where this is from) and veggies. Although I do have a zero-calorie option Cherry Coke Zero, the 20-oz. I drink once a day and this fulfills my daily feeling of paradise.
Caffeine can trigger all kinds of heart rate problems to miscarriages. I'd go see your doctor and have her check you out, and how many diet pepsis you drink.
https://uhs.umich.edu/caffeinePeople who take medications for depression, anxiety or insomnia, high blood pressure, other heart problems, chronic stomach upset or kidney disease should limit caffeine until discussing the matter with a clinician. .. . Some studies show an association between high doses of caffeine and an increased rate of miscarriages, premature deliveries or low birth weights. However, complicating factors such as smoking and alcohol use were not accounted for in these studies. In high doses, caffeine can affect fetal breathing and heart rate.
If you are pregnant, or planning to become pregnant, consider your options (e.g. eliminating caffeine or limiting intake to 200-300 mg per day). Discuss these options with your clinician.3 -
Although most on here would disagree with me, I agree with you, 2 liters of chemicals a day can’t be a healthy lifestyle choice. It might not hurt from a CICO perspective, but there certainly are health risks. One thing that helped me quit sodas was the little flavor packets for bottled water. There is so much variety, every flavor, and they use every kind of sweetener. I like the stevia lemonade ones. I also like the la Croix, cherry lime is my favorite. God bless!
So you've substituted one type of artificial sweetener with another type of artificial sweetener. Excellent.10 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »...but there certainly are health risks.
Such as?
Honestly the only reason people think diet soda is a health risk is because there are a lot of people on the internet making vague assertions in forum posts and blog articles and since people see lots of assertions they just assume there is some sort of truth to it. Posts like this just add to that misinformation and I'm getting tired of it. There is no evidence that diet soda presents any sort of health risk. If you are going to claim that it does cause health problems you should back that claim up with at least something.
Diet soda is a big fat nothing, it doesn't help your health, it doesn't hurt your health...yet people obsess over it. It is irrational.https://youtu.be/Dod6bUZYz4w
I started watching this bracing myself for some b.s. but actually this guy seems to know what he is talking about....better than most of what is out there that is for sure. That said I can't say that youtube videos, forum posts and bloggers are your best sources of information.
It's layne norton... hollowed be his name! Lol4 -
Although most on here would disagree with me, I agree with you, 2 liters of chemicals a day can’t be a healthy lifestyle choice. It might not hurt from a CICO perspective, but there certainly are health risks. One thing that helped me quit sodas was the little flavor packets for bottled water. There is so much variety, every flavor, and they use every kind of sweetener. I like the stevia lemonade ones. I also like the la Croix, cherry lime is my favorite. God bless!
Blessings to you too! So you mixed a small package of chemicals in a big amount of water and drank it. How do you know if that was more or less chemicals than what coke mixed in their big 2L bottle of pre-mixed flavoured water they shipped to the store? And what exactly makes the chemicals in La Croix and/or the various flavor packets, healthier? #just_curious
(And my appologies MFPeops since I responded without realizing the issue had already been explored!)7 -
Although most on here would disagree with me, I agree with you, 2 liters of chemicals a day can’t be a healthy lifestyle choice. It might not hurt from a CICO perspective, but there certainly are health risks. One thing that helped me quit sodas was the little flavor packets for bottled water. There is so much variety, every flavor, and they use every kind of sweetener. I like the stevia lemonade ones. I also like the la Croix, cherry lime is my favorite. God bless!
Blessings to you too! So you mixed a small package of chemicals in a big amount of water and drank it. How do you know if that was more or less chemicals than what coke mixed in their big 2L bottle of pre-mixed flavoured water they shipped to the store? And what exactly makes the chemicals in La Croix and/or the various flavor packets, healthier? #just_curious
(And my appologies MFPeops since I responded without realizing the issue had already been explored!)
I have a feeling your question will be only rhetorical. Lol2 -
Just to clarify something that was touched on before but seems to have gone unnoticed - OP said " I have trouble NOT drinking artificial sweeteners like in Diet Pepsi. I could drink a 2 Liter of Diet Pepsi, every day! "
I take that to be the sort of thing I would say as " I love chocolate, I could a eat a box a day" - sort of figure of speech, not something I actually do.
I didnt take it that OP is actually drinking 2L of it a day.
I dont think it is a problem to like it OP and if you are drinking it in moderation that seems fine to me. As is moderate amounts of raspberry tea or whatever else you wanted to switch all or part of your diet pepsi amount into.
Allowing for the calories, if any, in the substitute drinks.
If you have regularly been drinking a large amount of diet pepsi I would reduce gradually - because you are likely to have a mild addiction to caffeine
IMO mild caffeine addictions do not matter - I drink 3 or 4 cups of (admittedly weak) coffee a day myself so I'm a sure I have one too, something that does not worry me and I have no intentions of changing.
But if it is something you do want to change, go gradually.
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The FDA has established safe limits on Artificial Sweeteners. It was hard to find: ihttps://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm397725.htm#SummaryTable
Cola type drinks do contain added inorganic phosphate. The National Institute of Health published an article on our overconsumption of inorganic phosphates in America. It could be a real health issue.
Personally, I mostly drink water after my morning black coffee (which I love). I allow myself an indulgent soda about 4-6 times per year.
Enjoyment is important. Do your research and learn to love the things that love you back.
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I was addicted to Diet Pepsi. One day at random, I decided that I was going to give it up. That was 5 months ago. The first 10 days were manageable, but I did have a weird headache (that caffeine would not cure - so I knew it was from the junk in the Diet Pepsi). I thought (hoped?) that by giving up my DP, I would also lose a few pounds. Nope. I quit smoking 6 months ago, and since then have gained 10 pounds and am having a VERY hard time losing.
I'll have a regular Pepsi here or there, but mostly drink water or sparkling water now.13 -
Artificial sweeteners are not supposed to be bad if you put it in foods that have other carbs, but in drinks it's in its most dangerous form. This is because you're tricking your body into believing that there's sugars on the way. Your body thinks "Oh there's food! I better start producing some insulin to digest it!" But then when there's no food coming, and nothing for it to digest, it'll take a while to clear from the bloodstream. During that time, your body will be craving food because it's got insulin in the bloodstream, and it wants something for it to digest. This is of course, the diabetes sugar crave. And eventually, if you do it enough times, your body will realize that when you drink sweeteners it's a fake call. So it'll modify your body to become insulin resistant, which is Type II diabetes. In fact, there was an experiment conducted on mice that shows that for mice that had aspartame soda (an artificial sweetener) in its diet, actually gained more weight than mice that drank regular soda.
Reference: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.WqqCJujwaUl
So definitely cut back on the diet soda. It's just not good for you. I go with seltzers, and there are a whole bunch of cool flavors to try. White Rock is pretty inexpensive where I am, and so is Polar. If you want a sweet treat, I put sweetener in oatmeal. You can definitely put it in baked goods and be fine. This is because you're not tricking your body. You are eating carbs, and so the insulin gets put to use.35 -
Although most on here would disagree with me, I agree with you, 2 liters of chemicals a day can’t be a healthy lifestyle choice. It might not hurt from a CICO perspective, but there certainly are health risks. One thing that helped me quit sodas was the little flavor packets for bottled water. There is so much variety, every flavor, and they use every kind of sweetener. I like the stevia lemonade ones. I also like the la Croix, cherry lime is my favorite. God bless!
Water is a chemical
HTH
Oh, and there's almost 0 difference between the chemicals in those "little flavor packets" and the ones in diet cola5 -
juliamfu161 wrote: »Artificial sweeteners are not supposed to be bad if you put it in foods that have other carbs, but in drinks it's in its most dangerous form. This is because you're tricking your body into believing that there's sugars on the way. Your body thinks "Oh there's food! I better start producing some insulin to digest it!" But then when there's no food coming, and nothing for it to digest, it'll take a while to clear from the bloodstream. During that time, your body will be craving food because it's got insulin in the bloodstream, and it wants something for it to digest. This is of course, the diabetes sugar crave. And eventually, if you do it enough times, your body will realize that when you drink sweeteners it's a fake call. So it'll modify your body to become insulin resistant, which is Type II diabetes. In fact, there was an experiment conducted on mice that shows that for mice that had aspartame soda (an artificial sweetener) in its diet, actually gained more weight than mice that drank regular soda.
Reference: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.WqqCJujwaUl
So definitely cut back on the diet soda. It's just not good for you. I go with seltzers, and there are a whole bunch of cool flavors to try. White Rock is pretty inexpensive where I am, and so is Polar. If you want a sweet treat, I put sweetener in oatmeal. You can definitely put it in baked goods and be fine. This is because you're not tricking your body. You are eating carbs, and so the insulin gets put to use.
Your body does not decide whether to produce insulin from taste.
You would go hyperglycemic from everything that is not sweet but has carbs if it did.
Also I'm willing to bet you did not read and understand the link you posted.14 -
stevencloser wrote: »juliamfu161 wrote: »Artificial sweeteners are not supposed to be bad if you put it in foods that have other carbs, but in drinks it's in its most dangerous form. This is because you're tricking your body into believing that there's sugars on the way. Your body thinks "Oh there's food! I better start producing some insulin to digest it!" But then when there's no food coming, and nothing for it to digest, it'll take a while to clear from the bloodstream. During that time, your body will be craving food because it's got insulin in the bloodstream, and it wants something for it to digest. This is of course, the diabetes sugar crave. And eventually, if you do it enough times, your body will realize that when you drink sweeteners it's a fake call. So it'll modify your body to become insulin resistant, which is Type II diabetes. In fact, there was an experiment conducted on mice that shows that for mice that had aspartame soda (an artificial sweetener) in its diet, actually gained more weight than mice that drank regular soda.
Reference: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.WqqCJujwaUl
So definitely cut back on the diet soda. It's just not good for you. I go with seltzers, and there are a whole bunch of cool flavors to try. White Rock is pretty inexpensive where I am, and so is Polar. If you want a sweet treat, I put sweetener in oatmeal. You can definitely put it in baked goods and be fine. This is because you're not tricking your body. You are eating carbs, and so the insulin gets put to use.
Your body does not decide whether to produce insulin from taste.
You would go hyperglycemic from everything that is not sweet but has carbs if it did.
Also I'm willing to bet you did not read and understand the link you posted.
Sugar-free gum could be the new DEBIL!
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juliamfu161 wrote: »Artificial sweeteners are not supposed to be bad if you put it in foods that have other carbs, but in drinks it's in its most dangerous form. This is because you're tricking your body into believing that there's sugars on the way. Your body thinks "Oh there's food! I better start producing some insulin to digest it!" But then when there's no food coming, and nothing for it to digest, it'll take a while to clear from the bloodstream. During that time, your body will be craving food because it's got insulin in the bloodstream, and it wants something for it to digest. This is of course, the diabetes sugar crave. And eventually, if you do it enough times, your body will realize that when you drink sweeteners it's a fake call. So it'll modify your body to become insulin resistant, which is Type II diabetes. In fact, there was an experiment conducted on mice that shows that for mice that had aspartame soda (an artificial sweetener) in its diet, actually gained more weight than mice that drank regular soda.
Reference: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.WqqCJujwaUl
So definitely cut back on the diet soda. It's just not good for you. I go with seltzers, and there are a whole bunch of cool flavors to try. White Rock is pretty inexpensive where I am, and so is Polar. If you want a sweet treat, I put sweetener in oatmeal. You can definitely put it in baked goods and be fine. This is because you're not tricking your body. You are eating carbs, and so the insulin gets put to use.
I've read a lot of BS on MFP, but this might just win the prize!!13 -
juliamfu161 wrote: »Artificial sweeteners are not supposed to be bad if you put it in foods that have other carbs, but in drinks it's in its most dangerous form. This is because you're tricking your body into believing that there's sugars on the way. Your body thinks "Oh there's food! I better start producing some insulin to digest it!" But then when there's no food coming, and nothing for it to digest, it'll take a while to clear from the bloodstream. During that time, your body will be craving food because it's got insulin in the bloodstream, and it wants something for it to digest. This is of course, the diabetes sugar crave. And eventually, if you do it enough times, your body will realize that when you drink sweeteners it's a fake call. So it'll modify your body to become insulin resistant, which is Type II diabetes. In fact, there was an experiment conducted on mice that shows that for mice that had aspartame soda (an artificial sweetener) in its diet, actually gained more weight than mice that drank regular soda.
Reference: http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.WqqCJujwaUl
So definitely cut back on the diet soda. It's just not good for you. I go with seltzers, and there are a whole bunch of cool flavors to try. White Rock is pretty inexpensive where I am, and so is Polar. If you want a sweet treat, I put sweetener in oatmeal. You can definitely put it in baked goods and be fine. This is because you're not tricking your body. You are eating carbs, and so the insulin gets put to use.
You do realize that diabetics are encouraged to switch from regular to diet soda, and they become very attuned to the ups and downs of their blood sugar and insulin levels, right? Don't you think all of those diabetics would have noticed an unnecessary insulin response from drinking diet soda in real world conditions?
As others have said, the insulin response doesn't come from taste, it comes from the blood glucose level actually rising.
Pro-tip: Any theory that depends on "tricking your body" is generally a load of cow poop. The body doesn't sense things based on our 5 senses or our logic.6 -
ruffalicious wrote: »omg I love diet coke and diet pepso
I LOVE Diet Coke but LOATHE Diet Pepsi. My Husband now works for Coca Cola and brought me home a Diet hat the other day and we can even by it by the pallet!
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I feel bad laughing at these posts because some are jarring. I knew that the post regarding chemicals and the one about tricking your body was going to get some interesting replies. I can't stop laughing.
OP, I went about 15 months without drinking anything but water. Then I started back to drinking diet sodas. I enjoy them and don't feel any regret. However, lately, I have been buying (2) 20 ounce diet cokes 4-5 days a week as a treat. I was paying $4 bucks each time I purchased the sodas totaling $20 weekly. I tried the 12 pack cans to save on money, but they seemed flat and not as enjoyable. The cost was beginning to bother me more than actually drinking the 40 ounces at a time.
I started taking L-glutamine powder this week for another matter, and I noticed that I haven't purchased any sodas this week. It could be just a placebo type thing. Who knows? So at least this week I have saved a few bucks. We'll see about next week.
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"However, complicating factors such as smoking and alcohol use were not accounted for in these studies."
This means the study evaluated caffeine use but didn't measure whether the subjects also smoked and drank. You can discount the conclusions of any study so poorly designed.2 -
totallyjoker wrote: »When I set my mind to it, I don't have trouble eating healthier food portions and vegetables. I have trouble NOT drinking artificial sweeteners like in Diet Pepsi. I could drink a 2 Liter of Diet Pepsi, every day! What is a cold drink that would give me the same satisfaction? I tried LaCroix (sparkling water), is that good for you? What else is there? If I made a sweet iced raspberry tea with a little raw sugar, is that okay?
Drink whatever you like. You don't have to give up diet pepsi or artificial sweeteners. It is good to try something new though.
You could try doing infused waters. There are lots of combinations to try.
https://dailyburn.com/life/recipes/fruit-infused-water-recipes/
I like unsweetened drinks like water and tea. I think sweetened fruit flavored teas are an abombination.0
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