Zero calorie vegetables
lilligraz22
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Hi. I'm a little confused about zero calorie vegetables and I apologise for my ignorance here but a lot of experts say that you can eat all you want, which is great. The only thing is that when I enter them into my diary my carbs go through the roof. Any advice?
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which experts?
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There's no such thing as zero calorie foods, and vegetables are for the most part 100% carbs. Log them and focus on your calories.14
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Most vegetables are pretty low cal, but they have calories (and a majority of those calories come from carbs).
I wouldn't say they make carbs go "through the roof" unless you have a really low carb limit (and if so why, and are you should you aren't really concerned about net carbs, which will be lower).
For example, 300 g of raw broccoli (which is a pretty good amount) has about 20 g of carbs, and about 100 calories, but only about 11 g net carbs.
Many so called "experts" don't trust people to consistently count calories so instead try to teach tricks that will work if you don't (WW is some mix of counting and not). One of the tricks is to eat vegetables instead of other foods if you are hungry/just wanting to eat and to fill up more of the plate at meals with vegetables. That can be helpful for people (and vegetables are high in micronutrients, so it's not a bad idea anyway), but it's a shame some try to base it on the lie that vegetables don't have calories, because of course they do.
Anyway, personally I try to eat lots of vegetables (normally 10+ servings per day) and when I'm logging I log them. I am not concerned about carbs so long as I also get sufficient protein and fat for my own satiety and preferences and so on.
That people are so scared of carbs that they are worried about vegetables is so, so sad.19 -
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Most vegetables are pretty low cal, but they have calories (and a majority of those calories come from carbs).
Agreed. I'm not aware of any zero calorie foods. Beverages, yes. Foods, no.
I'm wondering if this is some confusion brought on by negative calorie foods or weight watches zero point foods?2 -
Veggies are not really "free" foods (or zero calories) unless you are using a program like Weight Watchers which gives you a lowered calorie limit.....to account for veggies you will be eating with their program.
There are some very low calorie veggies (celery, lettuce, cucumbers). Basically fiber and water with a few micronutirents......not a whole lot in the way of nutritional value.
Is there a medical reason for managing carbs? Weight loss is about calorie deficit; focus on that first barring medical issues.2 -
There are some veggies that are very low in calories - like you could eat a big bowl of them for maybe 50 calories. The carbs you're seeing a mostly due to fiber content. Fiber is considered a carb but it passes through your body unabsorbed.2
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Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.24
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Water is zero calories.1
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meganw2020 wrote: »Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.
But since the "costs" of digestion are already factored into food, these "experts" are wrong.12 -
meganw2020 wrote: »Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.
There are no foods where the calories are less than the burn from digestion. If you eat celery, there are still net calories absorbed after digestion. The whole idea is a myth that while some "experts" might believe, no actual expert will think this.
They are low calorie and high volume so they may fill you up for a limited amount of calories, and be useful in that way.6 -
lilligraz22 wrote: »Hi. I'm a little confused about zero calorie vegetables and I apologise for my ignorance here but a lot of experts say that you can eat all you want, which is great. The only thing is that when I enter them into my diary my carbs go through the roof. Any advice?
Just wait until you discover the negative calorie veggies and fruit.
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/negative-calorie-foods/
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janejellyroll wrote: »meganw2020 wrote: »Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.
But since the "costs" of digestion are already factored into food, these "experts" are wrong.
I know that, calm down. I was just stating the idea behind why some people say there are zero calorie foods, hence my use of quotations around the word experts.4 -
meganw2020 wrote: »Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.
That's because they don't understand what TEF (Thermic Effect of Food) is. What they're proposing is ridiculous and impossible.1 -
lilligraz22 wrote: »Hi. I'm a little confused about zero calorie vegetables and I apologise for my ignorance here but a lot of experts say that you can eat all you want, which is great. The only thing is that when I enter them into my diary my carbs go through the roof. Any advice?
Just wait until you discover the negative calorie veggies and fruit.
I still avoid apples because I don't want to starve from eating too many of them 6 -
meganw2020 wrote: »Some "experts" say there are zero calorie vegetables because the vegetables have less calories in them then the amount of calories your body expends to digest them. It is not that they truly have no calories. These vegetables are a great choice but they do still have carbs.
That's because they don't understand what TEF (Thermic Effect of Food) is. What they're proposing is ridiculous and impossible.
You are forgetting the calories burned lifting your fork and chewing the food
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Water is zero calories.
loads of ways to prepare it as well -
Ice - to suck or crunch
Shaved ice, so you can eat it with a fork
hot
cold
really cold
room temperature
I have loads of "friends" in my feed that keep posting pictures of their dinners of water that they are really proud of .. I am sure they are trying to convert me by showing me how delightfull looking their bowl of water is1 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Water is zero calories.
loads of ways to prepare it as well -
Ice - to suck or crunch
Shaved ice, so you can eat it with a fork
hot
cold
really cold
room temperature
I have loads of "friends" in my feed that keep posting pictures of their dinners of water that they are really proud of .. I am sure they are trying to convert me by showing me how delightfull looking their bowl of water is
Ice is actually negative calories as you will need to burn calories to bring it to body temperature
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Water is zero calories.
loads of ways to prepare it as well -
Ice - to suck or crunch
Shaved ice, so you can eat it with a fork
hot
cold
really cold
room temperature
I have loads of "friends" in my feed that keep posting pictures of their dinners of water that they are really proud of .. I am sure they are trying to convert me by showing me how delightfull looking their bowl of water is
I like dry ice too! It makes drinking water interesting.0 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Water is zero calories.
loads of ways to prepare it as well -
Ice - to suck or crunch
Shaved ice, so you can eat it with a fork
hot
cold
really cold
room temperature
I have loads of "friends" in my feed that keep posting pictures of their dinners of water that they are really proud of .. I am sure they are trying to convert me by showing me how delightfull looking their bowl of water is
If my cat would only push me his water dish instead of bringing me murder gifts...3 -
Vegetables aren't zero calories. There are many low calorie vegetables, but none are free from calories. To be zero calorie, they'd have to have a TEF of 100% and no food has a TEF of 100%. Protein has the highest TEF and it doesn't come close to being 100%.
Vegetables are for the most part carbohydrates (starch, sugar, fiber) that are packed with a lot of micro-nutrients in most cases. That said, I wonder what vegetables you're eating to see your carbs go through the roof...or why you would need to worry about that. I'd think you must have a very different perception of "through the roof" than I do.1 -
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I think even if you ate cardboard you're gonna get some calories.
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My jar of pickles says the pickles are zero calories. Lol0
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natruallycurious wrote: »My jar of pickles says the pickles are zero calories. Lol
Yes because in some countries ( or maybe just USA, I'm not sure) they are allowed to say zero calories if a serving is less than 5 calories.
They dont really have zero.
and in other countries the jar would not say zero.
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Water is zero calories.
loads of ways to prepare it as well -
Ice - to suck or crunch
Shaved ice, so you can eat it with a fork
hot
cold
really cold
room temperature
I have loads of "friends" in my feed that keep posting pictures of their dinners of water that they are really proud of .. I am sure they are trying to convert me by showing me how delightfull looking their bowl of water is
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natruallycurious wrote: »My jar of pickles says the pickles are zero calories. Lol
If something has less than 5 calories, they're allowed to put zero on the label...at least in the States.1 -
No such thing as zero calorie veg.2
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