The Starch Solution
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Some other dr's to look up: Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr.Caldwell Esselstyn, Dr. Michael Greger, and I'm sure there are others. Sure, they've all written books on this, but the DIET is not sold. It's free information.5
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hokagenoob wrote: »So I legit just watched an 1 hour video of Dr.McDougall's "The Starch Solution" video on YouTube and honestly it was a HUGE eye opener to how majority of society has turned into obesity. And how in B.C they all ate grains and stayed in shape. I'm thinking about trying this out! For those who know what I'm talking about and has tried this out, can you tell me your guys stories about it? Does it work?
If you guys haven't watched it I really suggest you do! Its real interesting.
Stop watching videos. Obesity is caused because people eat too much carbs, fats and proteins combined.... that's it.4 -
it's true! but that doesn't negate what I'm saying.
how many citations would you like?
RE: diabetes
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/29/8/1777.long
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12936955
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Kiehm TG[Author]&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=941870
RE: heart health
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3501710/
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/34/1/173/638493
RE: osteoporosis
http://nutrition.highwire.org/content/128/6/1051.full
http://www.vivalis.si/uploads/datoteke/3a00.pdf
RE: Arthritis
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02242946
There are so many more, but I am not a genius, and I don't understand a lot of them.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/health-science/hot-topics/
is where i got all this, so if you want to read up for yourself, feel free.
There are tons of videos that make it so much easier to understand.
You wrote: "Eliminating oils and dairy and meat allows your body to heal it's arterial damage and let's your body use up the fat it has stored up . . . "
The point is that your body used the fat it had stored up because you were consistently in a calorie deficit. You may have prompted that process by reducing the calories you consumed from animal products and fat (and not replacing them with calories from other foods), but you can reach a deficit while continuing to eat those foods (if you choose). For people who find a HCLW diet without animal products satiating, it may be a good way to consistently reach a deficit. But it isn't the only way to achieve weight loss.7 -
It's clear that a lot of people here are either biased or misinformed. The starch solution isn't about deprivation. It's only eating plant based vegan foods concentrating on starchy carbohydrates. This is because your body uses carbs as it's first source of energy. All other sources get stored as fat to use later. You can eat as much as you WANT. It forces you to learn when you are hungry and when you are full. It's hard to binge on starchy carbs because of the density. Plus you won't get fat eating vegetables as long as you're not binging. I did this for 1.5 months and lost 25lbs only going to one spinning class a week. Ignore people who have never given it a chance much less watched his lecture or read his book.
....and then there's that one person who comes in here and says that
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You can eat until satiation. It works, and has reversed my type 2 diabetes in 3 months. Lost 20 in 1.5 months so far. No meat, dairy, animal products or oil. It is a low fat, plant based diet based around plant starches with the inclusion of veggies and fruits. Calorie density is of big importance. 200 calories of oil does not fill your stomach and is way easy to eat. 200 calories of veggies stuffs you up. Eliminating oils and dairy and meat allows your body to heal it's arterial damage and let's your body use up the fat it has stored up. Insulin resistance is reversed because glucose isn't blocked by cellular fat.
It works, go for it!
Aw man, I read that first sentence as "you can eat until saturation" and was hoping for something awesome like sitting in a kiddie pool full of apple sauce all day absorbing nutrients through your skin.4 -
Last time I ate starch, my blood sugar crashed. And my digestive issues got worse.5
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KrazyKrissyy wrote: »Last time I ate starch, my blood sugar crashed. And my digestive issues got worse.
Last time I ate starch I was fine... what's your point?4 -
Holy thread resurrection, batman.
And where has critical thinking gone? It's not in BC obviously.1 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »You can eat until satiation. It works, and has reversed my type 2 diabetes in 3 months. Lost 20 in 1.5 months so far. No meat, dairy, animal products or oil. It is a low fat, plant based diet based around plant starches with the inclusion of veggies and fruits. Calorie density is of big importance. 200 calories of oil does not fill your stomach and is way easy to eat. 200 calories of veggies stuffs you up. Eliminating oils and dairy and meat allows your body to heal it's arterial damage and let's your body use up the fat it has stored up. Insulin resistance is reversed because glucose isn't blocked by cellular fat.
It works, go for it!
Aw man, I read that first sentence as "you can eat until saturation" and was hoping for something awesome like sitting in a kiddie pool full of apple sauce all day absorbing nutrients through your skin.
SQUISHY!!!1 -
wow and here I got fat eating more fruits and veggies which means I ate more calories than my body needed. I can eat 3lbs of cherries in one sitting,no joke and still not be full. I can eat a lb of asparagus or even broccoli and yet still hungry. no jokes I have done this before. I dont eat a lot of bread,pasta,rice,etc thats a once in awhile thing for me because Im just not big on those foods,thats the only reason I eat less of them.I lost weight and a lot of fat being in a DEFICIT. I eat a good amount of carbs too.funny how none of it got stored as fat and my health improved too. guess I am a special snowflake then huh? hahahaha0
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KrazyKrissyy wrote: »Last time I ate starch, my blood sugar crashed. And my digestive issues got worse.
Last time I ate starch I was fine... what's your point?
My point is it's not for everyone. OP is encouraging others to try it and making statements as to why we should. My response is basically why I cannot.4 -
You can eat until satiation. It works, and has reversed my type 2 diabetes in 3 months. Lost 20 in 1.5 months so far. No meat, dairy, animal products or oil. It is a low fat, plant based diet based around plant starches with the inclusion of veggies and fruits. Calorie density is of big importance. 200 calories of oil does not fill your stomach and is way easy to eat. 200 calories of veggies stuffs you up. Eliminating oils and dairy and meat allows your body to heal it's arterial damage and let's your body use up the fat it has stored up. Insulin resistance is reversed because glucose isn't blocked by cellular fat.
It works, go for it!
My husband and I followed Esselstyn's Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease guidelines about six or seven years ago. We both ate as much as we wanted and lost weight. I had trouble with the lack of protein and fat and didn't stay on it for long. My husband stuck with it much longer and got the big drop in his cholesterol levels he had hoped for (his doctor had been talking about putting him on cholesterol lowering medication previously).
The diet worked, without a doubt, but how much benefit could be attributed to the weight loss and how much to the composition of the diet? I don't know how to know.
After a while my husband started visibly losing muscle and with my urging started to add more protein back into his diet, as well as fat from nuts, olive oil and avocado. To me adherence and sustainability are the biggest drawbacks to this kind of diet.
I would never choose this route for weight loss only, but I don't really consider it quackery either.
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This discussion be like a politically incorrect story my dad told me.
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Just go ahead and be offended.5 -
I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.25 -
I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.20 -
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Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Now THIS deserves Jerome's "Just go ahead and be offended". I don't want to admit that I was amused.6 -
Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity.
That's what I thought about my favourite home salad. Turns out I was consuming at least 1000cal just on that salad alone - paired that with two other meals and I was easily over my calorie needs.
Some people can get away with it, but it very heavily depends on what it is they're eating and what their needs are. For most people though this won't ever work and all the people who "eat healthy but still not losing weight" are proof positive of it.
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I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!27 -
I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
just because my car goes faster when i fart doesnt mean its powered by the farts.19 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
just because my car goes faster when i fart doesnt mean its powered by the farts.
OMG, Bwahahahahahahahaha!
True, though. Could just be coincidence....?
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I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
Sometimes we succeed in spite of what we do rather than because of what we do.
Glad you found a way that worked for you to establish and maintain a caloric deficit. Because whether you realize it or not, or did it intentionally or not, that's what happened.12 -
Not sure if the person is a troll or just lacks common sense?I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
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I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
You lost weight because the food that you were eating satiated you at the right amount of calories to be in a deficit without you having to actually count the calories. Just because you weren't counting them doesn't mean they didn't fall where they needed to.
I'm pretty much there myself. I've been maintaining for 2 years and I usually effortlessly eat the right amount of calories. I log to watch my macros. But my effortless maintenance calories include a fair amount of stuff you would consider low quality or junk I'm sure.5 -
Not sure if the person is a troll or just lacks common sense?I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
I am genuinely baffled how often people conflate calorie counting with CI/CO. I understand not knowing how calories work, but it's so freaking obvious once it's laid out for you that continuing to insist that your body is some sort of perpetual motion device is bizarre.
As a side note, I told my (intelligent, science-minded) husband what happens to fat while you're losing weight and he was tickled pink. It had never occurred to him because he'd never thought about it before.5 -
I'm losing weight without counting calories because I can't for the life of me log every little thing that goes into my mouth. And it's not sustainable for me.
You can lose weight counting calories, but I rather focus on eating well that's sustainable for me long term and I feel healthy. Honestly, at the end of the day, it's the quality of food you eat, not so much the quantity. But everyone is different.
I have a friend who did the Startch Solution. It worked for her and she did it long term. I don't know to this day if she's still doing it, but it helped her.
Nope. Speaking in terms of weight loss, it's the number of calories you consume vs. the number of calories you expend. Period. And everyone is not different in that regard. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight; if you eat less calories than you expend, you lose weight. Whether you're on the Starch Solution or the Paleo diet or the Keto diet or Grapefruit Diet or the One Meal a Day diet or the Fifteen Meals a Day diet or whatever. Calories in, calories out.
There is no magical diet which defies the laws of energy balance, and human unicorns don't exist.
I'm happy to disagree with you that it's not just calories in/calories out. I know it must be hard to believe, but it's true. I must be a human unicorn ...yay!
it is about CICO. sure in 2003 I broke my leg and wasnt as active, I could not get around as easy as before. so I made less trips to the kitchen,I lost weight without even trying to.I wasnt weighing,I wasnt counting calories,I wasnt even on a diet. I still lost weight because I was eating less than my body needed. it was still CICO whether at the time I knew that or not.1 -
yeah...just because you do not actually count your calories doesn't mean you are not in a calorie deficit! HA!2
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