Walking and weight loss
Tq43
Posts: 85 Member
My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
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Hi Tq43, I walk about 5 km a day as well. And yes it does help you loose weight BUT if you do the same km per day then your body seems to get "used" to it and your rate of weight loss seems to slow down. You have to keep pushing yourself to walk a greater distance per day to continue your weight loss. That has been my experience anyway.
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Hi Tq43, I walk about 5 km a day as well. And yes it does help you loose weight BUT if you do the same km per day then your body seems to get "used" to it and your rate of weight loss seems to slow down. You have to keep pushing yourself to walk a greater distance per day to continue your weight loss. That has been my experience anyway.
gakewz
As you lose weight, your calorie needs decrease, so naturally your rate of loss will too. You'd likely burn less calories walking the same distance as you become a lighter, fitter person, so that would contribute to a slower rate of loss.23 -
My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.6 -
It helps in that you’re increasing your calorie expenditure, but you also have to ensure that you’re eating less than you burn.14
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Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all13 -
She is probably saying that because most people think "oh, if I exercise I will lose weight", which by itself is not a full proof plan.
Most exercise has great health benefits and increases energy expenditure. But, without monitoring intake while exercising many people end up eating back even more than they burned because they experience and increase in appetite. Even those that don't have an increase in appetite when working out often overestimate burns, underestimate calories in food, and fall into the "well I worked out, so I earned that donut" type mentality, and negate all their effort.3 -
For most of my journey walking was my main exercise (to and from work) and the distances increased (my 'record' is 33km in one day) Walking moved to hiking and long distance walking holidays.
Due to change of jobs my walking has decreased (cycle to work now) but I still love doing it. My walking over time became running and these days my exercise consists of weight training, cycling and running with the odd walk thrown in. To be honest my daily walks are what I miss the most about my previous job and what kept me in that job longer than it should have.
Walking is a great and most often not too strenuous as exercise. The intensity is usually not that high. For the same calorie burn my runs only need be half the distance of my walks BUT my walking was my zen place, my way of burning calories, while also not being in a position to eat and it gave me lots of fresh air.
I'd thoroughly recommend it as a starting exercise way for anybody wanting to lose weight as it is long impact,easy to build into most lifestyles and relatively cheap (just need some decent footwear).7 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
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Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
If you're using MFP the way it was intended, the NEAT method, your extra exercise is not included in your activity level, so if you are extra active that day-you can eat back the calories and still be in the same deficit. If you're using the TDEE method, no you would not eat your calories back.
I do not eat "walking" calories back. I just try to keep or increase my NEAT and that is included in my TDEE.12 -
Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
What that is is setting the deficit to 500 (per your example), burning a hundred (or whatever number) extra Calories, and then eating those hundred Calories so your deficit is still 500.
Also, skinny fat may or may not be due to under eating. It's often because there's no solid resistance/strength training plan in place, and/or not enough protein consumption, to retain muscle mass as one loses weight. And/or simply not having much muscle mass to begin with.13 -
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What that is is setting the deficit to 500 (per your example), burning a hundred (or whatever number) extra Calories, and then eating those hundred Calories so your deficit is still 500.
Also, skinny fat may or may not be due to under eating. It's often because there's no solid resistance/strength training plan in place, and/or not enough protein consumption, to retain muscle mass as one loses weight. And/or simply not having much muscle mass to begin with. [/quote]
Wow, for someone with such nutritional knowledge, you must look awesome!
Post a pic up, let's have a look at you?
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Sparkeysworld wrote: »
What that is is setting the deficit to 500 (per your example), burning a hundred (or whatever number) extra Calories, and then eating those hundred Calories so your deficit is still 500.
Also, skinny fat may or may not be due to under eating. It's often because there's no solid resistance/strength training plan in place, and/or not enough protein consumption, to retain muscle mass as one loses weight. And/or simply not having much muscle mass to begin with. [/quote]
Wow, for someone with such nutritional knowledge, you must look awesome!
Post a pic up, let's have a look at you?
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It's pretty basic knowledge.13 -
Of course walking works - as an overall component of a deficit. Much of this is semantics. I use MFP for logging, and don't worry too much about what I eat back. But there's context to that. My weight loss planning is not centered around NEAT - I use TDEE minus activity. Since walking is a part of my activity it's accounted for and I am already "eating those calories back" it's not different than doing this the NEAT way. So my TDEE minus deficit hits, say 2400 calorie goal. For the same goal, NEAT gives me 2000 and I "eat back 400 for exercise (and yes I can get 6-700 walking 4 miles in the hills of our neighborhood at a brisk pace). We end up in the same place.
When my walking is more I lose more. When it's less I lose less.3 -
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Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
Someone like myself, who was assigned 1200 calories by MFP because I'm old, short, female, and sedentary outside of purposeful exercise, if I burned 500 calories on a walk but didn't eat any of those back I'd be netting 700 calories in a day. Great for a huge deficit, sure, but less than ideal nutritionally. I walk in order that I may eat a bit more. Someone of your size, age, activity level, etc. may be better positioned to not eat back calories from taking a walk and still be well nourished.21 -
Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
Exercise is good for your physical and mental health even if it isn't increase the size of your calorie deficit. I wouldn't consider it "pointless."13 -
Walking definately works, and best of all its free.... walking has been the mainstay of my 185lb weightloss over the last 26months, when i started, it wasn't long distances either, even now on a weekday basis, probably 6miles a day is the most i do, sometimes less, -CICO and walking as a basis for weight loss is the easiest way to start.(i'll add- in my opinion!!)7
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I've seen doctors describe walking as most beneficial because it does not strain the body putting excess pressure on the joints and muscles in the long term.14
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Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »Sparkeysworld wrote: »My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Ridiculas!
How can walking not aid weight loss?
Walking around the house maybe, but the distances you are doing, certainly.
The only way this wouldn't work as well is if you were adding the 'walking' calories back into MFP.
My cardio consists solely of walking on the treadmill, on maximum incline for 30m at a suggested calorie rate of 400-500.
This linked with a calorie deficit from diet and the weight just falls off.
Ill bite. I wont pretend to be all high and mighty and pretend i didnt do the exact same thing. I walked very long distances -10-20 miles a day most days and still do- And admittedly i did not eat back majority of my calories. I was on 1200-1500 my entire 110lb loss. Granted i felt fine and i still do im in the minority on that. And i paid for it by becoming skinny fat with minimal muscle and have been working way harder thn i would have had to since.
To the point, Yes walking 100% helps you lose weight it increases your deficit and gets you moving. Of course its even obvious to the OP it works. BUT it is still your body moving it is exercise and not eating back atleast a portion of your exercise calories when using long distance walking as exercise will come back and bite you in the *kitten*, Whether it be a binge, Or muscle loss, malnourishment signs like hair loss, Hormonal issues like acne, Or for females even period loss.
Yes in the moment weight "falling off" is exciting and awesome, But weight should not "fall off" and we all know that lol. No matter how exciting it seems at the time speedy weight loss comes with its side effects.
Summed up- Walk away but dont for a second think its not exercise, And dont be afraid to fuel your exercise. MFP numbers dont include exercise at all
Hi,
This is me last year, and the year before, trust me, I know exactly what I'm what I'm doing with both my diet and activity levels (I hope that didn't sound condescending, because I didn't mean it to be that way).
so your pictures make it okay to you to tell people not to bother eating back exercise calories to make weight "fall off" ?
Why would you eat back the calories?
It makes the effort put into the walk pointless.
It's like setting the calorie deficit to -500 and eating 500 over.
And you were 'skinny fat' because you were under eating in the first place.
TDEE is calculated not just on stats but activity levels also, walking 10-20 miles a day on 1000-1200 calories you should have probably been on somewhere ball park 2700+.
Anyway I'm not here to argue, you have every right to your opinion as am I.
Regards
MFP doesn't calculate TDEE, it calculates NEAT. Using NEAT assumes you will log your exercise and eat back those calories. It works well for people who don't exercise daily and want to eat more on days they burn more, rather than spreading those calories over all 7 days like TDEE does.
Trying to get weight to "fall off" while carrying big deficits might be doable for an avg sized guy (though you could still argue it's probably not advisable), but if a smaller woman chooses a 500 cal deficit on MFP, and then several times a week walks off 400 cals and doesn't eat them back, it could very easily put her under 1200 net cals on those days.
OP, I have no idea what the intention of the class leader was when she said that, but yes of course can walking can help with weight loss.9 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »edited to add: im not fighting you im simply annoyed by your over generalized advice that could harm a newbie walking in and reading it.
Those gymbro pics tho.... he clearly walks a lot!
HE KNOWS HIS STUFF, RITE?
Seriously though, OP: Walking is fantastic - particularly for little things like longevity. But as a form of weight loss, they're kind of right. It's crap. Does it help? Yeah, in miniscule ways. But the benefits of walking are more in the way of cardiovascular and joint health than anything else.
The amount you have to walk to burn off any significant weight is seriously outweighed by the kind of food you eat.
A brisk 3mph walk on a level surface is good for around 40 calories per 15 minutes. So, assume you do that for an hour, that 160 calories is mostly wiped out with a single 12 ounce can of non-diet soda. Hardly seems worth it for the purposes of burning calories.
Diet is key for weight loss. Exercise has countless other benefits, but exercise is a crappy way to lose weight despite what everyone might tell you.
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I walked and dieted away 150lbs. Walking helped a bunch, but maintaining a deficit doesn't require exercise. I just prefer to eat more, so keep walking so that I can have more than 1200 cals a day.10
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My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I, personally can't agree with this. My main exercise is walking. I walk 5-7km most days at a fast pace.
According to map my walk...I burn anything between 270-400 kcal on those walks.
How can that not help with weight loss? If I don't walk ...for various reasons...I don't see as much weightt loss that week.
CICO seems lost on this lady!
Maybe I'm wrong....what do.ye think ???
Walking and exercise in general may or may not help with weight loss...it still comes down to being in a calorie deficit. A lot of people pick up exercise and still don't lose weight because they compensate with more food whether conscious of that or not. I see it all of the time at my gym...people have the exercise part down, but not the food part.7 -
The class leader was probably speaking from an efficiency perspective. There's no doubt that any activity is better than zero activity but in terms of bang for your buck, walking won't do enough to offset poor diet choices nor act as a substitute for a more vigorous activity in otherwise capable individuals.
In other words, don't count on walks alone to lose pounds.9 -
My mum attends a local slimming class. This week the leader said that walking does not help u lose weight, no.matter how far or how fast you Walk!
I'd ask what the brand of slimming class is? Best in mind that in most branded slimming systems they're promoting their own system, and factoring in calories expended in walking may not fit with the model.
I'd also question how the leader is trained, many systems essentially script everything so the leader may not have any real understanding of the physiological factors.3 -
I chalk these sentiments up to ego - another variant of "It cannot be this easy". You also have to consider that this person lives based on clientele, so if people can lose weight simply by walking this is a very real threat to their income.
Any activity will aid a caloric deficit. Walking may not be as an efficient use of time in comparison to running, but the risk of injury is minimal.9 -
OP, it comes down to this. Your mother's leader is wrong. Weight loss will always come down to calories in vs calories out but even if walking isn't as hoity toity an exercise as crossfit or weight lifting or hiit whatever, you're still doing more than sitting on the couch watching tv.
I've lost 120 lbs with walking as my only form of exercise. (It sucks I hate strength training but so be it.) How'd I do it? I logged my calories in best I could and used a fitbit best it/I could for calories out. And I ate every last exercise calorie I could get away with while still losing because hell if I'm gonna live on 1200 calories a day.
<----who longs for the days she burned more calories while walking. DAMN LOSING ALL THAT WEIGHT!!! 11 -
While I agree that just walking is unlikely to produce the dramatic results that most people are wanting when they want to lose weight, "just" 140 calories is nothing to sneeze at.
It's the equivalent of a glass of wine with dinner or a couple of slices from most loaves of bread. Given that slow weight gain caused by just a small excess of calories each day is a problem for many people, "just walking" could help address that (assuming one didn't just eat more to offset the walking).
Even for people who aren't losing weight, just *not gaining* could be a benefit.9 -
janejellyroll wrote: »While I agree that just walking is unlikely to produce the dramatic results that most people are wanting when they want to lose weight, "just" 140 calories is nothing to sneeze at.
Well, that's a matter of opinion. And my opinion is that by comparison, that hour is a complete waste of time compared to not drinking that can of coke or glass of wine with dinner. To the original poster, maybe it's a whole different matter - maybe she REALLY wants that glass of wine or whatever. But I would personally just skip it and do something else with my hour.
Again, this is my opinion on the context of weight loss only. I walk a pretty good amount daily (5+ miles). I just don't do it for the purposes of weight loss as I feel that for that purpose it's a waste of time. These days I walk to clear my head and keep my heart in decent shape.
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janejellyroll wrote: »While I agree that just walking is unlikely to produce the dramatic results that most people are wanting when they want to lose weight, "just" 140 calories is nothing to sneeze at.
Well, that's a matter of opinion. And my opinion is that by comparison, that hour is a complete waste of time compared to not drinking that can of coke or glass of wine with dinner. To the original poster, maybe it's a whole different matter - maybe she REALLY wants that glass of wine or whatever. But I would personally just skip it and do something else with my hour.
Again, this is my opinion on the context of weight loss only. I walk a pretty good amount daily (5+ miles). I just don't do it for the purposes of weight loss as I feel that for that purpose it's a waste of time. These days I walk to clear my head and keep my heart in decent shape.
If someone preferred to skip the glass of wine and spend the hour instead watching television or doing volunteer work or whatever they liked doing, I don't think that's a problem. But for the average person, I think even relatively modest increases in TDEE can help make a difference.
I might feel differently if I hated walking, but the fact that I enjoy it it probably coloring my opinion here. My daily lunch walk "pays" for my evening glass of wine and that seems like a pretty good arrangement for me. This is the context of maintaining my weight. I agree that for people who are losing weight, a calorie deficit is needed to produce the results they want and that creating a deficit that will sustain significant weight loss would be pretty challenging with just walking.7 -
Why not both? Walking AND the glass of wine? At the same time. 9
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