New to subject - why drink protein shakes?
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Bottom line: shakes are convenient and packed with macronutrients you *might* need. Not everyone *needs* to ingest a protein shake, nor are they better than equal proteins that aren't powdered.
Actually whey protein is absorbed into your system MUCH faster than other forms of protein, which is beneficial directly after a workout.0 -
For people who place a high priority on meeting their macro-nutrient goals, a protein shake can help. Of course, it can also be done with so-called "real foods".... it just takes a little bit more time and effort.0
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A glass of chocolate milk, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, or a homemade egg sandwhich will replenish your body's deficits for much cheaper than an expensive protein drink will.
Expensive? Interesting. A tub of Optimum Nutrition's Whey protein costs 44.99 and contains a 120 servings....each serving containing 24 grams of protein. At 37 cents per 24 grams of protein, I really can't think of a cheaper source of complete protein.0 -
I drink GNC Wellbeing be-BUFF Vanilla Bean Protein Mix for women. You mix 1 scoop with water and it has only 100 calories, and 7 carbs while packing 15g of protein! It's the best protein shake I've ever tasted and you can easily mix fruit with it. It helps me not feel sick after my morning workouts and keeps me feeling full well until lunch time
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ive tried 2 different types of protein shakes, and protien bars, and every one of them make me feel either sick and nauseous (whey) or bloated and couldnt stop farting (soya)
I just dont think they aggree with me at all, so i just try and get protein in my diet where i can now, and havent noticed any negative effects for not supplementing0 -
So true, too bad people only think in terms of price tag. To get the same amount of protein from milk you'd need to buy 22.5 gallons. One serving of protein powder has the same amount of protein as 3 glasses of milk, which works out to about 75 cents per 24 grams of protein. In eggs, you'd need to buy 40 DOZEN to get the same amount of protein. It takes 4 eggs to equal one serving of the ON powder. Still be about 75 cents to a dollar to get 24 grams of protein from eggs. And you'd need 22.5 jars of peanut butter. Not to mention 24 grams of protein from peanut butter would be about 600 calories.A glass of chocolate milk, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, or a homemade egg sandwhich will replenish your body's deficits for much cheaper than an expensive protein drink will.
Expensive? Interesting. A tub of Optimum Nutrition's Whey protein costs 44.99 and contains a 120 servings....each serving containing 24 grams of protein. At 37 cents per 24 grams of protein, I really can't think of a cheaper source of complete protein.0 -
ive tried 2 different types of protein shakes, and protien bars, and every one of them make me feel either sick and nauseous (whey) or bloated and couldnt stop farting (soya)
I just dont think they aggree with me at all, so i just try and get protein in my diet where i can now, and havent noticed any negative effects for not supplementing
The women's be-BUFF that I drink has special enzymes to relieve bloating etc...0 -
A glass of chocolate milk, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, or a homemade egg sandwhich will replenish your body's deficits for much cheaper than an expensive protein drink will.
When there is a diet that is calorie restricted, it is often easier to drink a 100 calorie protein drink after my work-out than to do a higher cal food; but that is just me.0 -
ive tried 2 different types of protein shakes, and protien bars, and every one of them make me feel either sick and nauseous (whey) or bloated and couldnt stop farting (soya)
I just dont think they aggree with me at all, so i just try and get protein in my diet where i can now, and havent noticed any negative effects for not supplementing
The women's be-BUFF that I drink has special enzymes to relieve bloating etc...
i dont think its available in the UK. id be interested in finding a gentle one, but tbh, when each tub of it costs like £20/£25 and then i have to throw/give it away, it gets to be an expensive experiment that i cant afford.0 -
I have one for breakfast most days coz it's a good hit of protein to break the fast and it's easy for to get down while getting the 3 chidlren ready for the day.0
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People have them because the diet and fitness industry have convinced people they are necessary. It's all about money. Like most things. Plenty of professional athletes manage just fine without them.0
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People have them because the diet and fitness industry have convinced people they are necessary. It's all about money. Like most things. Plenty of professional athletes manage just fine without them.
im inclined to agree.
I think its important to get protein in your diet, but i feel better in myself when i get it without supplementing artificially0 -
People have them because the diet and fitness industry have convinced people they are necessary. It's all about money. Like most things. Plenty of professional athletes manage just fine without them.
im inclined to agree.
I think its important to get protein in your diet, but i feel better in myself when i get it without supplementing artificially
I think there's a big difference between getting enough protein and the quantities the US fitness industry tell people they need. Meat eaters are never going to be short of protein from food.0 -
Optimum Nutrition's Whey. That's what I drink. I like the cookies and cream the best. After an intense workout (weights or cardio) I won't drink milk. I can feel it curdle in my stomach and makes me feel sick. The protein shakes really help me with the shaky muscle feeling.A glass of chocolate milk, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, or a homemade egg sandwhich will replenish your body's deficits for much cheaper than an expensive protein drink will.
Expensive? Interesting. A tub of Optimum Nutrition's Whey protein costs 44.99 and contains a 120 servings....each serving containing 24 grams of protein. At 37 cents per 24 grams of protein, I really can't think of a cheaper source of complete protein.0 -
People have them because the diet and fitness industry have convinced people they are necessary. It's all about money. Like most things. Plenty of professional athletes manage just fine without them.
im inclined to agree.
I think its important to get protein in your diet, but i feel better in myself when i get it without supplementing artificially
I think there's a big difference between getting enough protein and the quantities the US fitness industry tell people they need. Meat eaters are never going to be short of protein from food.
Good call. A protein shake doesn't melt off your fork in your mouth quite the same way that a juicy sirloin steak does :-)0 -
Thanks for all the great help but still a little fuzzy on the subject~ I don't have a protein shake after working out at the gym and alternate my weight lifting for every other day so that my muscles will recover. Are you saying that a protein shake after my workout would allow me to work those muscles again the next day? Do you have a protein shake as an alternative to a snack?
I am a diabetic and will eat usually an hour before the gym. After my workout, I'll have a piece of fruit usually. Why the protein shake then? Sorry to sound like such a nudge - trying to understand!0 -
Are you saying that a protein shake after my workout would allow me to work those muscles again the next day?
No absolutely not. You still need to give those muscles time to recover. 1-3 days. If you do weights 2 days in a row, make sure to hit different muscles the 2nd day.Do you have a protein shake as an alternative to a snack?
Yes, it's a matter of convenience and simplicity rather than a matter of necessity. I want to re-iterate that these shakes are a tool or convenience. Nobody needs them. If you can hit your macro targets with 100% whole foods, all the better. If shakes help you fill in some of those calories and macros, no worries there either.I am a diabetic and will eat usually an hour before the gym. After my workout, I'll have a piece of fruit usually. Why the protein shake then? Sorry to sound like such a nudge - trying to understand!
There is little or no benefit to meal timing. Eat when it makes sense to you. Make sure all your numbers add up at the end of the day. That is all.0 -
I hit my protein macro on food alone, the protein powder puts me over the top. I drink it purely as a supplement to my workout. Muscles use glycogen when they work hard, whey protein gets absorbed quickly and helps restore the glycogen to the muscles faster. It also contains complete proteins which allow muscles to start repairing themselves faster than if they had to wait for slower proteins to be absorbed.
I usually take it directly after a workout, right with lunch. Plus the extra protein in your system helps muscle from being broken down.0 -
whey protein gets absorbed quickly and helps restore the glycogen to the muscles faster
Whey protein gets absorbed quickly, yes.
But it is carbohydrates that quickly restore glycogen, not protein. This is why you often hear it recommended to take high glycemic-index carbs (like simple sugars and the like) directly following an intense workout - because they will quickly replenish glycogen.
Ultimately you need both protein and carbs. And fat. And water. And sodium. And potassium. And cholesterol. And fiber. And vitamins.
For us mere mortals - focus on a reasonably balanced diet and don't overthink all the meal timing stuff.0 -
whey protein gets absorbed quickly and helps restore the glycogen to the muscles faster
Whey protein gets absorbed quickly, yes.
But it is carbohydrates that quickly restore glycogen, not protein. This is why you often hear it recommended to take high glycemic-index carbs (like simple sugars and the like) directly following an intense workout - because they will quickly replenish glycogen.
Ultimately you need both protein and carbs. And fat. And water. And sodium. And potassium. And cholesterol. And fiber. And vitamins.
For us mere mortals - focus on a reasonably balanced diet and don't overthink all the meal timing stuff.
Exactly. In the UK, sports recovery drinks are 3 to 4 parts carbs to 1 part protein. That is the optimum ratio for recovery. The whole protein shake thing is just a cynical marketing ploy.0 -
You said it.0
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whey protein gets absorbed quickly and helps restore the glycogen to the muscles faster
Whey protein gets absorbed quickly, yes.
But it is carbohydrates that quickly restore glycogen, not protein. This is why you often hear it recommended to take high glycemic-index carbs (like simple sugars and the like) directly following an intense workout - because they will quickly replenish glycogen.
Ultimately you need both protein and carbs. And fat. And water. And sodium. And potassium. And cholesterol. And fiber. And vitamins.
For us mere mortals - focus on a reasonably balanced diet and don't overthink all the meal timing stuff.
That must be why milk tastes so yummy after a hard workout.0 -
Exactly. In the UK, sports recovery drinks are 3 to 4 parts carbs to 1 part protein. That is the optimum ratio for recovery. The whole protein shake thing is just a cynical marketing ploy.
Supplements are a huge industry with a ton of marketing, for sure. But that doesn't automatically make them evil or useless or a conspiracy theory. From what I've seen on this and other threads, people who use supplements such as whey use them as a convenience. The marketing departments do what they do, but I haven't really seen much in the way of regular people trying to push supplements on each other. They are neither "good" nor "bad". Just like chicken breasts and milk are neither good nor bad.0 -
Ques: I meet all my macronutrients daily, sometimes even go over fiber & protein intake BUT it's hard for me to meet the 1270 cals a day, could I possibly take a protein shake to meet the calorie intake & repair my muscles faster OR is too much protein harmful?
Also, are they meant to drink only after lifting weights or also after doing cardio?
Take in mind that I'm on here to lose weight...
I drank protein shakes after working out for about a month & when I went in to get my monthly measurements..turns out I had lost inches but NO weight :-/ & of course as a woman we get discouraged when not seeing the numbers drop. I do understand that it's better to lose inches rather than weight but as a heavy women I NEED to see the numbers drop, ya know atleast 2-4lbs/month.
Feel free to look at my diary.0 -
Ques: I meet all my macronutrients daily, sometimes even go over fiber & protein intake BUT it's hard for me to meet the 1270 cals a day, could I possibly take a protein shake to meet the calorie intake & repair my muscles faster OR is too much protein harmful?
Also, are they meant to drink only after lifting weights or also after doing cardio?
Take in mind that I'm on here to lose weight...
I drank protein shakes after working out for about a month & when I went in to get my monthly measurements..turns out I had lost inches but NO weight :-/ & of course as a woman we get discouraged when not seeing the numbers drop. I do understand that it's better to lose inches rather than weight but as a heavy women I NEED to see the numbers drop, ya know atleast 2-4lbs/month.
Feel free to look at my diary.
Are you using MFP's default ratios? They have protein set really low at 15% of your total calories. I changed mine to 30%.
In regards to the calories / protein / weight loss, I really fell you should be eating at least your 1270 NET if not more.0 -
I use them because I'm veggie - I find that I get my protein from not great sources otherwise!0
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People have them because the diet and fitness industry have convinced people they are necessary. It's all about money. Like most things. Plenty of professional athletes manage just fine without them.
If I was a professional athlete instead of someone who spent 50+ hours at the office with not enough time to prepare meals to fit my daily protein requirements, then yeah, I might very well not eat protein shakes. Instead I would have my professional chef or prepare my own meals. But since I don't have those kinds of luxuries or that amount of time, I opt to use protein shakes as a tool to help me meet my daily macros.0 -
Protein shakes are for when you are unable to get your minimum protein macro requirements from whole foods. They don't have any "magical" properties. Alot of it is marketing.0
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I drink them , because I am vegetarian and cant get enough protein with out consuming associated carbs with it.0
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