Somebody lectured me about Splenda today
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New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
I had a woman look into my grocery basket and tell her friend that soy milk was bad for you. If she were really smart she would have noticed it was almond milk. Eyes on your own cart.
This one is just a ton of irony. I was fixing coffee with creamer when a guy in front of the store, who had just been asking for money for food, comes in and tells me I shouldn't be using cows pus and its not fit for human consumption. Um, thanks?
A couple summers ago I was leaving a fancy pizza restaurant in Santa Barbara with some leftovers, and we passed a guy on the street with a sign that said “homeless and hungry please help”. I offered him the pizza leftovers and he said “no thanks, I don’t eat dairy”. Maybe it was the same guy!17 -
Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »lucerorojo wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
The thing is that almond milk at Starbucks probably comes out of a box and doesn't even have enough almonds to even count as "almond milk." I don't drink soy milk anymore because of that propaganda, but I also make my own almond milk from almonds at home.
Everything is poison somehow so it's all irrelevant. I wouldn't have bothered looking at them. Maybe they didn't intend for you to hear, but even if they did, what you showed them is that YOU cared enough to listen to someone else's conversation and take it to heart. I would have looked at you weirdly too!
These 2 ladies definitely intended for me to hear. It was not quiet talking in line, it was practically shouting at each other to the point where people on the other side of the store were looking over. That to me is extremely passive aggressive and I did not take it to heart but I wanted to send a message. It is MY choice what I put in my coffee and honestly it felt good to respond.
Ok. Thanks for explaining. If they were that loud then I can understand you paying attention and responding as you did. Passive-agressive definitely. Most of the time if I'm in a coffee shop (I'm boycotting Starbucks, so not there anymore) I'm not even thinking about or listening to what other people order. A lot of people have too much time on their hands!9 -
nickssweetheart wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
Just had my morning dose of toxins and estrogen in my oatmeal. It was delicious!
soy milk.
I feel like this would be a killer song title LOL9 -
I just explain that Splenda / sucralose starts out as sugar and is just modified so it goes through us without being absorbed as glucose. So it is better than sugar because there is a sweet taste without the calories of sugar.8
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WinoGelato wrote: »New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
I had a woman look into my grocery basket and tell her friend that soy milk was bad for you. If she were really smart she would have noticed it was almond milk. Eyes on your own cart.
This one is just a ton of irony. I was fixing coffee with creamer when a guy in front of the store, who had just been asking for money for food, comes in and tells me I shouldn't be using cows pus and its not fit for human consumption. Um, thanks?
A couple summers ago I was leaving a fancy pizza restaurant in Santa Barbara with some leftovers, and we passed a guy on the street with a sign that said “homeless and hungry please help”. I offered him the pizza leftovers and he said “no thanks, I don’t eat dairy”. Maybe it was the same guy!
I suppose I could understand if there were a dairy intolerance. I've offered food to homeless people and have never been turned down. But I would understand if I tried to give a bag of peanuts to someone and they declined because of an allergy.11 -
Everyone thinks they are a expert. Especially if they have always been fit. I use truvia and not splenda but only because I like Truvia better. Its my small sweet for my coffee or my oatmeal. You do you and tell her that you "appreciate" the advice but it is not needed.2
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At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.55 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.
Why do you feel this way, and what evidence supports your theory?20 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.
I use truvia but I personally do not think by a nutritional standard its really any better because lets face it. It is basically a reminder that many of us cannot do anything without some sort of sweet. On a non nutritional note I like the way Truvia taste better. I would never diss someone who uses splenda.
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NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them!
Save them from what? There isn’t anything wrong with artificial sweeteners, and ingesting them is nothing like smoking a cigarette. Mind your own business.42 -
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This place fascinates me at times. On another tread they are discussing if it's ok to make comments such as, "You should stop losing weight, You're too skinny, etc" Most agree that's not ok.
Most of us agree it would be rude to comment on someone's fashion choice to their face or shame them for wearing Crocks in public *gasp*.
Why would anyone think it's ok to comment on an FDA approved food choice? Unless you are an Md, and the person is your patient - butt out.31 -
WinoGelato wrote: »New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
I had a woman look into my grocery basket and tell her friend that soy milk was bad for you. If she were really smart she would have noticed it was almond milk. Eyes on your own cart.
This one is just a ton of irony. I was fixing coffee with creamer when a guy in front of the store, who had just been asking for money for food, comes in and tells me I shouldn't be using cows pus and its not fit for human consumption. Um, thanks?
A couple summers ago I was leaving a fancy pizza restaurant in Santa Barbara with some leftovers, and we passed a guy on the street with a sign that said “homeless and hungry please help”. I offered him the pizza leftovers and he said “no thanks, I don’t eat dairy”. Maybe it was the same guy!
I offered a homeless guy an apple and some yogurt one morning. He didn't want either. I figured he couldn't be that hungry. I wasn't going to give him change.9 -
Everyone has an opinion, there's science to back up both sides of the fake sugar debate. Why do you people have to be so *kitten* to someone who disagrees with you?
The preponderance of evidence falls overwhelmingly on the side of safety.
The other side only has pseudoscience and fearmongering23 -
johnslater461 wrote: »Everyone has an opinion, there's science to back up both sides of the fake sugar debate. Why do you people have to be so *kitten* to someone who disagrees with you?
The preponderance of evidence falls overwhelmingly on the side of safety.
The other side only has pseudoscience and fearmongering
Unfortunately, in this age of information overload and everyone has a platform, that's usually enough. Look at all the confusion we see here on a daily (heck, hourly) basis.6 -
Honestly, I'd be using SUGAR if I weren't trying to lose weight. But sugar is also the "devil" so either drink it black or die from some sweetener, artificial or sugar!
ETA: Obviously you people who "wooed" don't recognize sarcasm!! LOL. Carry on.14 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.
I don't think her intentions were bad. I think she was oblivious of personal boundaries and respecting other people's choices and frankly their intelligence, since she felt that I was either ignorant or uneducated if my choices didn't reflect hers. But I also think she believed she might also be saving my life.
This morning I was thinking about the motivation behind trying to save random strangers from themselves (not the cruel and hurtful kinds of comments, but the sincerely concerned kind). It feels like it's almost like a religious committment, and the adherents are not doing their duty if they don't take the opportunity to try to convert everyone else to their way which is the true way, the only way to be saved.
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Everyone has an opinion, there's science to back up both sides of the fake sugar debate. Why do you people have to be so *kitten* to someone who disagrees with you?
I don't know who flagged this or why, but the flag is inappropriate.
There is no actual science backing up the premise that "fake sugar" is harmful. If you read the first several posts in the "Aspartame isn't scary" thread you will find numerous legitimate peer-reviewed studies that show it is not. There are no legitimate peer-reviewed studies that show it is in people who have no adverse reactions to the components.
I'd rather this didn't turn into an "evil Splenda" thread, since the OP centers on inappropriate comments from strangers, and the circumstance of the specific comment is incidental to the conversation.
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lucerorojo wrote: »Honestly, I'd be using SUGAR if I weren't trying to lose weight. But sugar is also the "devil" so either drink it black or die from some sweetener, artificial or sugar!
Yeah, this is part of the weirdness of the comment - she opened with "That stuff [Splenda] is just as bad for you as sugar." On the assumption, I guess, that at least everyone knows sugar is bad for you.10 -
I would've have yawned and said "I'm sorry I totally stopped paying attention when you started talking".15
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NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.NicoleHaki wrote: »At Starbucks (!) I was standing at the bar with her - she reached across me for truvia, I reached across her for splenda. We smiled at each other. And she says out of the blue "You shouldn't use that stuff, you know. It's worse than sugar." I did my tight, inappropriate stranger smile and finished stirring my coffee - and she keeps on lecturing! "You really need to stop using that, it's nothing but chemicals. It's really a terrible thing to do to your body..." and on and on as she's walking out the door. I half-expected her to hand me a pamphlet directing me to some kind of artificial sweetener support group. It was kind of surreal - and I wish I hadn't been so stunned that I had absolutely nothing to say
I've read here about strangers making inappropriate comments in general about people's food choices, but usually not direct evangalizing to their faces - it's certainly a first for me! Does this sort of thing happen often, and am I just oblivious? Does anyone want to share a story?
And of course, now I'm thinking of all the things I could have said if I was just a little bit quicker on my feet - did anyone actually think fast enough to make a good comeback?
Is Truvia much better than Splenda? Definitely rude of her!
That said, I also hate artificial sweeteners and sometimes catch myself making comments to people who choose Splenda or diet soda. I don't do it to be rude but to me it's like watching someone smoking a cigarette - I feel like maybe I can save them! Not saying this to justify her rudeness, but saying it because maybe her intentions weren't that bad - it genuinely pains me to see people drink soda or put Splenda in their coffee or tea.
Unfortunately it is YOUR pain to live with. You will not change grown folks and their choices.
Please move along with the understanding....that we all will be dying of something someday.15 -
lucerorojo wrote: »Honestly, I'd be using SUGAR if I weren't trying to lose weight. But sugar is also the "devil" so either drink it black or die from some sweetener, artificial or sugar!
Yeah, this is part of the weirdness of the comment - she opened with "That stuff [Splenda] is just as bad for you as sugar." On the assumption, I guess, that at least everyone knows sugar is bad for you.
TBH, The correct(snarky) response to that is, Yes, I know! isn't that wonderful?11 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I offered a homeless guy an apple and some yogurt one morning. He didn't want either. I figured he couldn't be that hungry. I wasn't going to give him change.
I will pretty much always offer food, and I have never been turned down. One man nearly cried when I gave him a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter. I hope that experience hasn't discouraged you from offering in the future.15 -
nickssweetheart wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I offered a homeless guy an apple and some yogurt one morning. He didn't want either. I figured he couldn't be that hungry. I wasn't going to give him change.
I will pretty much always offer food, and I have never been turned down. One man nearly cried when I gave him a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter. I hope that experience hasn't discouraged you from offering in the future.
When I have the cash to spare, I often offer to go to the nearby take-away and buy them a hot meal of their choice. I never give them spare change. I'm just weird that way.
I have been insulted by some homeless for that. His line of reasoning was that it was his money to do with and if he's asking 'cause he's hungry and then using the money to buy booze it's his choice and his problem.7 -
That woman had no right telling you what you should or should not eat, let alone lecture you about it. That was incredibly rude of her! She really has to learn to mind her own business. People really are a-holes sometimes! I suck at comebacks, too. Next time someone criticizes your food choices, tell them to mind their own business.
There are times when I cringe at my friends' food choices and you know what? I keep my mouth shut. Simple as that. Not my life, not my business. Unless they specifically ask me for advice on the matter, and even then I would be tactful and make "suggestions" not tell someone how to run their life. There are appropriate times, places and ways to do things. Clearly this woman was not tactful (maybe even not of sound mind, ya never know these days!)7 -
As a nutritionist I have to put my two cents in and say that research shows that artificial sweeteners do not help with weight loss. Most are just synthetic versions of the sugar you are avoiding and your body treats it as such. Honey or Stevia are your best options for low-glycemic sweeteners. That being said, even as a nutritionist, we meet people where they are. Everyone is different, everyone likes different things, and everyone is willing to sacrifice different things to achieve their goals.
Now as a human being, I must say it is completely inappropriate to confront a stranger in public telling them what they are doing "wrong". Even if you think you are "right", it is still just wrong.59 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »
I have been insulted by some homeless for that. His line of reasoning was that it was his money to do with and if he's asking 'cause he's hungry and then using the money to buy booze it's his choice and his problem.nickssweetheart wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I offered a homeless guy an apple and some yogurt one morning. He didn't want either. I figured he couldn't be that hungry. I wasn't going to give him change.
I have been insulted by some homeless for that. His line of reasoning was that it was his money to do with and if he's asking 'cause he's hungry and then using the money to buy booze it's his choice and his problem.
He has a point. Charity should have no strings. If you ask what meal he wants and then buy it for him and then he says it that's rude. But if you buy something and get indignant he's not grateful then you are being elitist. And yes, I walk my talk. I'll ask someone if I can get them something at whatever store is nearby. If they say yes I ask if they want to come with me and pick it out or should I do it and come back. If they say no I say okay, and move on. I am not choosing to be insulted. It isn't insulting if your generosity is purely about helping someone else and not about making yourself feel good. I give money donations via my local food bank monthly as they can stretch $50 way farther than any individual possibly can.12 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »nickssweetheart wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »I offered a homeless guy an apple and some yogurt one morning. He didn't want either. I figured he couldn't be that hungry. I wasn't going to give him change.
I will pretty much always offer food, and I have never been turned down. One man nearly cried when I gave him a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter. I hope that experience hasn't discouraged you from offering in the future.
When I have the cash to spare, I often offer to go to the nearby take-away and buy them a hot meal of their choice. I never give them spare change. I'm just weird that way.
I have been insulted by some homeless for that. His line of reasoning was that it was his money to do with and if he's asking 'cause he's hungry and then using the money to buy booze it's his choice and his problem.
I don't think he has the right to be less than gracious, ever, when you are being generous, but I also will give small amounts of money if I'm not in a position to purchase or offer food at the time.
I'm conflicted about it, because I don't really want to feed someone's addiction, but then I think to myself, who am I with my comfortable home and fridge full of groceries to judge what someone in his situation has to do to get through his day?
It's a complicated issue, to be sure.11 -
jadkins389 wrote: »As a nutritionist I have to put my two cents in and say that research shows that artificial sweeteners do not help with weight loss.
And this is why you don't listen to "nutritionists"54 -
New_Heavens_Earth wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I was at Starbucks yesterday and got soy milk in my iced coffee, and they didn't say anything to me but the 2 women behind were discussing very loudly (I'm sure they intended for me to hear) about how soy is "sooo bad for you" and almond milk is way better blah blah blah "toxinz, estrongen, etc". I couldn't help myself so I turned around, stared right at them, took a large sip, and went ahhhhh. They looked at me like I had just kicked a puppy, it was great!
I had a woman look into my grocery basket and tell her friend that soy milk was bad for you. If she were really smart she would have noticed it was almond milk. Eyes on your own cart.
This one is just a ton of irony. I was fixing coffee with creamer when a guy in front of the store, who had just been asking for money for food, comes in and tells me I shouldn't be using cows pus and its not fit for human consumption. Um, thanks?
Totally off topic - nice new profile pic!2
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