Green Smoothie Detox - Make Fresh Or What Store Bought Brand Do You Recommend?
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maryjennifer wrote: »
When you have food allergies, your body can't digest foods you are allergic to very well. It builds up in the colon. When you cleanse the built up, the allergy you developed is resolved.
no....just. No.
You cannot poop away an allergy.
if only it were that easy. it would be great if it were possible11 -
When you have food intolerances and can't digest certain foods very well they do NOT build up in the colon. If anything they tend to shoot right through. Also, if you swallow bubblegum it doesn't remain in your stomach seven years. Good grief.16
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lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.44 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.
So I had my colon removed a year ago and I still have allergies so I guess I'm a special snowflake?27 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.
Likewise14 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.
Allergies occur when the body becomes sensitized to a particular molecule. They are never cured by colon cleansing. This advice is potentially fatal.
The only thing a detox diet ever cured was an imaginary problem. Some people do have those. However, in your case, since you are still using this doctor, it's false that he cured your problems, because if he had, you wouldn't still be doing this.17 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Woo aside, isn't a detox drink diet a form of VCLD, which it's against the rules to advocate on the site? Or am I wrong that "detoxing" involves exclusively consuming a drink for the period concerned?
You're not wrong. "Detox diets" are almost always also VLCDs11 -
Wow, this really blew up while I was out.
@maryjennifer when did you last take a course on the functioning of the human body? Or is there some new textbooks coming out? Because nothing of what you are saying is in my pathophysiology text.15 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg?
How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
Are you on dialysis? Are any of your organs failing? If you don't have actual concerns with your liver or kidneys, your system is running fine. And anything that is actually accumulating in your body like heavy metals would need specific chelation therapy, not green drinks.
Stick to the question.
Please understand, this is an open forum and many come here via Google or other paths and may come across your post.
To that end, it is important to respond to the ideas and concepts brought up by your post, as opposed to to a simple response, or no response, based on what you are looking for.
So, you do not have the ability, nor should you, to limit the responses in the thread to just what you want them to be.
It's important to point out the uselessness of the detox smoothies so the next person wondering about them has some useful information, like that they are a waste of time and money.
So, take what you want from this thread but understand it's not all about you.
Green smoothies just like green juices is filled with healthy vitamins and nutrients. A little weird how people would think consuming a beverage with healthy ingredients is worthless. But your right its your opinion.
Why do you think consuming those ingredients as a smoothie (or only smoothies) is healthier than including them in whole form in your diet?
Green juice is harmless, but I think removing the fiber is generally not a great idea for most people (there are exceptions, and it mostly depends on whether you keep them low cal or not and what else you eat).
My regular diet consist of whole fresh foods with tons of fiber. I drink lots of water with fresh juices and will add green smoothie this week. Green smoothies consist of tons of fiber from fruits, vegetables, chia or flaxseeds and omega 3 oils.
So you are now saying you are adding green smoothies to your normal diet? That wasn't the original premise, as a "detox" or "cleanse" is normally only consuming the thing (also bunk).
Of course, as I said upthread, I enjoy smoothies and make them a few times a week for breakfast (or occasionally dinner instead if I get home super late and don't want anything else/am too tired to cook). I see no harm in a tasty, balanced smoothie as a meal. You just seem to think there's some magical property that smoothies provide, and that's not true. How do you think the ingredients in the smoothie transform by being eaten in a smoothie vs. some other manner?
As for what is in a green smoothie, it obviously depends on what you put in it. Your "infographic" is hardly the be-all, end-all, and given that you were going to buy some premade one at the beginning of this thread (which have a wide range of ingredients), let's not pretend that all smoothies have "tons of fiber from fruits, vegetables, etc."
I actually think it would be weird to add an omega 3 oil to a smoothie (what is that exactly? a crushed up fish oil pill? also, btw, what most people need to get for omega 3 is EPA and DHA, not merely ALA, which is all you get from flax and chia seeds -- I think they are nice additions, but don't think they are super as a source of omega 3).
Anyway, the fiber is smoothies is fine, the same as whatever the ingredients you add (which varies a lot), and the ingredients I add are all things I'd eat anyway, which was my point. It's juice that removes the fiber so isn't all that (although it's tasty and not harmful, except in excess, I just prefer whole foods).4 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.
Physician, heal thyself.
And I mean REAL physician10 -
Seriously, how does consuming a green smoothie (which has a huge variety of different ingredients) heal allergies?
I'd like to understand how this is supposed to work.
I'm allergic to bee stings, does it work for that? And if not, why not? Why would it be different?6 -
maryjennifer wrote: »lol has anyone seen the clip from Dr. Phil with the lady who's convinced she has like, 75 different "allergies" to various "toxins" ? That's what this thread is starting to remind me of...
Just 2. Wow some members of myfitnesspal is not into healthy nutrition, or that there are people who have healed their bodies of developed allergies. Google it or see a doctor who actually specializes in food allergies and get informed.
healthy nutrition is one thing. claiming that it can cure and get rid of allergies and other build of of toxins in your body is another. what you are claiming is literal horse poo. the drs you are seeing claiming this is real need to go back to school,better yet they need to lose their licenses as colon cleansing should only be done for certain reasons and allergies are NOT one of them.if you develop allergies its not because you heal them with a detox. its because you eliminate the food and prevent the triggers that causes the allergy. what part of these things do you not understand? you are saying we arent into nutrition. no we are we just arent into woo and horse poo fake "cures"6 -
maryjennifer wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg?
How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
Are you on dialysis? Are any of your organs failing? If you don't have actual concerns with your liver or kidneys, your system is running fine. And anything that is actually accumulating in your body like heavy metals would need specific chelation therapy, not green drinks.
Stick to the question.
Please understand, this is an open forum and many come here via Google or other paths and may come across your post.
To that end, it is important to respond to the ideas and concepts brought up by your post, as opposed to to a simple response, or no response, based on what you are looking for.
So, you do not have the ability, nor should you, to limit the responses in the thread to just what you want them to be.
It's important to point out the uselessness of the detox smoothies so the next person wondering about them has some useful information, like that they are a waste of time and money.
So, take what you want from this thread but understand it's not all about you.
Green smoothies just like green juices is filled with healthy vitamins and nutrients. A little weird how people would think consuming a beverage with healthy ingredients is worthless. But your right its your opinion.
But, no protein and no fats. So, as a diet it is missing out on 2 or the three macros. And it does nothing to "detox".
As with all the usual advice here, eat a balanced diet with an appropriate number of calories for your activity and weight loss goals and you will be much further ahead long term than with just smoothies. Now, adding a smoothie is not a bad thing, in moderation. But it is neither a complete diet nor will it detox anything.
Green smoothies have protein and fats and healthy ingredients are good for your body. Green smoothies consist of greens, some fruits, superfoods if you want, protein and healthy fats.
I try to have green juice at least once a week. Its good for you.
I am only going on a 5 day green smoothie diet (looks like I should not have used the word detox) related to my allergies and the doctors knows how to address my allergies when it flairs up.
Let’s put it in the simplest terms possible - you’re being sold a load of crap by a quack. The only thing green smoothies are going to detox or cure is some cash from your wallet.
But it sounds like you’re a True Believer, since you won’t listen to what a lot of knowledgeable people are telling you. So good luck with your smoothie “detox”.
[ETA:] I'd gladly post links to actual science showing that "detoxes" are worthless and do nothing for your health. But I have a feeling it would be a complete waste of time in this case.27 -
Unfortunately when I google detox for allergies there are all kinds of blogs and naturopathic "remedies" out there. This is quite dangerous information considering someone who is naive to how the human body works would actually believe this because some "doctor" (Hyman comes up a few times) pushes this crap and people buy it because they are looking for a miracle. If it were all this simple the allergist (MD/DO) would be advising this for their patients, but they aren't. Some people will out grow them, but the majority do not and for them it is strict avoidance of the allergen.
If you want to drink your green smoothie for a way to get more vitamins and antioxidants from foods then drink up, but they aren't going to cure anything.9 -
maryjennifer wrote: »When you have food allergies, your body can't digest foods you are allergic to very well. It builds up in the colon. When you cleanse the built up, the allergy you developed is resolved.
That's not how the digestive system works.17 -
No one tell OP what the histamine reaction is...14
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I came across a treatment that is just as effective as a green smoothie, and much less expensive. In fact, it's completely free.
Just repeat after me:
Ooo eee,
ooo ah ah
Ting tang
Walla walla, bang bang
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maryjennifer wrote: »
Both and I have a digestive issue due to allergies and have been put on a program to address it. Not getting into what that entails my question was only about fresh green smoothies or a recommendation from people on this platform who drink a healthy store bought brand and their experience with a specific brand.
if you have food allergies that cause digestion issues the only thing you can do is avoid those foods causing the issues. there is no food,smoothie,etc going to change allergies. I have
I never been on meds for allergies. I have inherited allergies for life. I developed some additional allergies, however. The last time I addressed the later, I went to a doctor who specializes in allergies and yes I also have a naturopath.
The doctor who specializes in allergies did extensive testing. I avoided the foods I was reacting to. Then I was put on a program to cleanse the gut with fresh foods. I got rid of the developed allergies.
Now I am dealing with this again as I developed an allergy to a new food I was not reacting to, as I cheated on my diet.
When you have allergies it affects your gut health.
In my case they recommended avoiding the food I was reacting to, eating tons of foods filled with fiber to cleanse the gut and lots of drink water, fresh green juices and green smoothies as vegetable and fruits cleanse the gut along with omega 3's.
I decided I am sticking to what the doctor recommended sticking with fresh ingredients as my past results and his success rate speaks volumes.
If you got rid of the developed allergies i.e. cured them, wouldn't you be able to eat those allergens without any ill effects?
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johnslater461 wrote: »I came across a treatment that is just as effective as a green smoothie, and much less expensive. In fact, it's completely free.
Just repeat after me:
Ooo eee,
ooo ah ah
Ting tang
Walla walla, bang bing bang
Fixed that for you.
Your spell causes aliens to enter your ears while you sleep.*edit to say* OH! It alternates. Well, the spell is old. It might not work anyway.
Sorta like green smoothies...9 -
Calliope610 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »
Both and I have a digestive issue due to allergies and have been put on a program to address it. Not getting into what that entails my question was only about fresh green smoothies or a recommendation from people on this platform who drink a healthy store bought brand and their experience with a specific brand.
if you have food allergies that cause digestion issues the only thing you can do is avoid those foods causing the issues. there is no food,smoothie,etc going to change allergies. I have
I never been on meds for allergies. I have inherited allergies for life. I developed some additional allergies, however. The last time I addressed the later, I went to a doctor who specializes in allergies and yes I also have a naturopath.
The doctor who specializes in allergies did extensive testing. I avoided the foods I was reacting to. Then I was put on a program to cleanse the gut with fresh foods. I got rid of the developed allergies.
Now I am dealing with this again as I developed an allergy to a new food I was not reacting to, as I cheated on my diet.
When you have allergies it affects your gut health.
In my case they recommended avoiding the food I was reacting to, eating tons of foods filled with fiber to cleanse the gut and lots of drink water, fresh green juices and green smoothies as vegetable and fruits cleanse the gut along with omega 3's.
I decided I am sticking to what the doctor recommended sticking with fresh ingredients as my past results and his success rate speaks volumes.
If you got rid of the developed allergies i.e. cured them, wouldn't you be able to eat those allergens without any ill effects?
thats what I said. I said if she cured the allergies she should be able to eat those things now
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