Green Smoothie Detox - Make Fresh Or What Store Bought Brand Do You Recommend?
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ladyhusker39 wrote: »Oh and I doubt I am the only one here thinking that the doctor probably has nothing to do with the detox. If he knows about it he probably just doesn't care because eating more fiber and drinking lots of nutrients (regardless of the reason) is still good for you.
This is what I was thinking. I suspect she saw a doctor about her allergies (which may actually be an intolerance), then sought out a naturopath for a remedy.
My sister does this all the time. She's currently avoiding surgery for what could be a very dangerous possibly life threatening condition that a hysterectomy would take care of.
It doesn't sound like OP is in this type of danger, but is just seeking a more "natural" solution to her health concerns. I don't necessarily have a problem with the idea, but she's definitely getting faulty information from her "medical" advisors.
Unfortunately, this is another one of those movements like GMO's or artificial sweeteners that once people make up their minds about, it becomes an almost cult like obsession.
This is exactly it! I couldn't agree with you more
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winonajosephine wrote: »winonajosephine wrote: »OP - have you tried the Bieler Soup? I also have problems with allergies, intolerance's, my intestines not moving things like they should and high liver enzymes. I'm currently undergoing multiple tests to figure out all of my triggers after living out of a medicine cabinet for the last 20years. My nutritionist RD, CCN who has a PHD suggested the Bieler drink to help my liver - she didn't call it a detox or a cleanse and suggested that I eat baked chicken breast along with it. It's pretty yummy. Here is the recipe. I like to make it more watery so I can drink it easier...
Bieler's Soup
1 lb. green beans
3 celery stalks
3-5 zucchini
handful chopped parsley
In a pot of boiling water, cut up green beans, celery, zucchini and parsley.
Cook for approximately 10 minutes, or until tender.
Remove from heat, remove lid, and let sit for 5 minutes.
Place in blender and mix well. Add more water, for a thin broth, if desired.
Bon Appetite!
Have you been evaluated by a GI and/or hepatologist prior to seeing the nutritionist? There are many causes for elevated liver functions (some life threatening) and should be thoroughly evaluated before trying treatment with a "detox soup".
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My primary dr ran blood tests, did an ultrasound and referred me to the nutritionist. She is the best in our area with GI issues, I went there and she sent me home with a TON (about 16) tests. SIBO, Food Allergy/Sensitivity, Stool Sample and others I don't remember off the top of my head. We will discuss them at the end of the month. I'm still at the beginning of getting some real help here.
Did they rule out autoimmune hepatitis, primary biliary cirrhosis, NAFLD/NASH? All of these are very serious conditions that most primary docs (and I know nutritionists) wouldn't normally test for. Just putting it out there.3 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
How do you know you do not?
Test results. Certain foods has effected my digestion. So it is not operating optimally. My question is about fresh or what healthy brand to recommend.
Stop eating those foods. Things will get back to normal after you stop ingesting them.
That is step 1. Step 2 is to get rid of the allergens built up in the body, hence tons of greens, vegetables, some fruits, healthy fats and protein as per doctor orders based on my situation.
You have to get rid of the built up allergens which is toxins and someone with allergies will not recover until you get rid of the built up.
Wat? No.
Its true. Doctors who specialize in food allergies know how to get rid of allergies you develop later in life. Inherited allergies are for life, unfortunately.
My dad developed an allergy to peanuts later in life (in his 30s). His allergist and his doctor told him that he had it for life and if he ingested peanuts again, they would likely kill him. Some 20 years later, he accidentally had some... And nothing happened. He went to his doctor. He went to his allergist. They told him it wasn't possible. He said that he was going to take a jar of peanut butter and a spoon to the emergency room and dig in. They told him not to be stupid. Finally, he had a couple of peanuts in the allergist's office, which was located in the hospital. Nothing happened.
My father jokes now about being a medical miracle. He did 'outgrow' a developed allergy. But the allergist had previously told him that it wasn't possible.
My younger sister was born allergic to about 90% of the food on Earth. (Seriously, she was allergic to chicken and turkey. As well as citrus, raw tomato, raw nuts, eggs, fish, mustard, peas, beans...)
Today? She's still got some of those allergies. But she's outgrown more than half of them.
So, with respect, your info has a few holes in it.
I was told I was allergic to penicillin. Broke out in hives when I was in college. Years later, desperate because I couldn't get to the doctor, I took penicillin I found in the medicine cabinet. Guess what? No hives. No reaction. I was cured!
It does happen - I was badly allergic to bee stings - as a teen I was stung on my hand and within five minutes my hand looked like I was wearing a blown up rubber glove, and by the time I got to the ER I couldn't breathe because my throat was swelling. Back in the day, doctors didn't commonly prescribe epi pens so I just carried on with my life and avoided bees. Decades later I was stung again - got ready to rush off to the ER - no issues. What happens is sometimes the body just gets over being sensitized to the allergen after years of not being exposed. It's not something you should count on, though!1 -
I could roll around in poison ivy when I was a teen. About 10 years ago I had a light exposure and could not recover from it with OTCs. Ended up getting a steroid shot at the doctor. I mowed the lawn from a teen to my mid 20's and then developed an allergy to freshly cut grass. I have had 2 different food allergies come and go.
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winonajosephine wrote: »...
In a pot of boiling water, cut up green beans, celery, zucchini and parsley.
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This sounds more dangerous than eating something you are allergic to!21 -
DisneyDude85 wrote: »winonajosephine wrote: »...
In a pot of boiling water, cut up green beans, celery, zucchini and parsley.
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This sounds more dangerous than eating something you are allergic to!
Lol totally!3 -
The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.2
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The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:6 -
You will probably be fine on the milk.
Your dinner would sound good on most days. Today I am probably going to hit the PB jar for dinner or I will be too far under. I have a minimum for days like these.0 -
You will probably be fine on the milk.
Your dinner would sound good on most days. Today I am probably going to hit the PB jar for dinner or I will be too far under. I have a minimum for days like these.
I got about half way through it when I realized, so I will know later tonight or tomorrow. I love PB to top off calories! Yum. Maybe I'll have the smoothie after work.2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
Not the only thing that's going to be a different color when you use beets
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ladyreva78 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
Not the only thing that's going to be a different color when you use beets
LOL. As often as I eat beets (not very often), this gets me every single time.lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
I like a good carrot and beet juice. Got rid of my juicer though. There was so much fibre being wasted and I tried to use it for baking, but just couldn't get it right.5 -
I do beet smoothies sometimes too.
Had my current favorite green smoothie this morning.1 -
This is why my diary is private. Someone would think I was nuts eating a half a cup of pb for a meal without context.
Beets have always been one of my favorite foods. I tried making a beet salad dressing once though and was not a fan.3 -
winonajosephine wrote: »winonajosephine wrote: »OP - have you tried the Bieler Soup? I also have problems with allergies, intolerance's, my intestines not moving things like they should and high liver enzymes. I'm currently undergoing multiple tests to figure out all of my triggers after living out of a medicine cabinet for the last 20years. My nutritionist RD, CCN who has a PHD suggested the Bieler drink to help my liver - she didn't call it a detox or a cleanse and suggested that I eat baked chicken breast along with it. It's pretty yummy. Here is the recipe. I like to make it more watery so I can drink it easier...
Bieler's Soup
1 lb. green beans
3 celery stalks
3-5 zucchini
handful chopped parsley
In a pot of boiling water, cut up green beans, celery, zucchini and parsley.
Cook for approximately 10 minutes, or until tender.
Remove from heat, remove lid, and let sit for 5 minutes.
Place in blender and mix well. Add more water, for a thin broth, if desired.
Bon Appetite!
Have you been evaluated by a GI and/or hepatologist prior to seeing the nutritionist? There are many causes for elevated liver functions (some life threatening) and should be thoroughly evaluated before trying treatment with a "detox soup".
- Hello
My primary dr ran blood tests, did an ultrasound and referred me to the nutritionist. She is the best in our area with GI issues, I went there and she sent me home with a TON (about 16) tests. SIBO, Food Allergy/Sensitivity, Stool Sample and others I don't remember off the top of my head. We will discuss them at the end of the month. I'm still at the beginning of getting some real help here.
if you have issues and high liver enzymes it could be due to meds. or it could be due to many other things and sending you to a nutritionist to me is an idiotic thing to do. I have liver enzymes that are sometimes high, but mine are caused by some of my meds and the other is my genetic cholesterol issue that causes it. since my cholesterol went down my enzymes went down. But the last place you should be sent is a nutritionist. if you are having issues you should be seeing other medical specialists to rule out certain health issues. not allergies and so on. where are these drs getting their licenses from? the cracker jack box?7 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
Not the only thing that's going to be a different color when you use beets
I freaked out the first time I saw this phenomenon. I thought I was dying.9 -
maryjennifer wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »maryjennifer wrote: »marinanyx2012 wrote: »Hi,
I make green juices or smoothies in my blender. The basic premise for me is for the majority of the drink to have greens (spinach, kale, parsley, etc.), then add a very small amount of fruit for some sweetness. Fresh ginger can also be wonderfully energizing. These green drinks have helped me to lose weight, consume the recommended amount of vegetables, and feel healthier. If you can commit to these drinks for a few days, you may come to crave them. I avoid store bought/pre-made for various reasons.
Thank you! The ingredients you mention are on the infographic and I actually discussed going on a green smoothie detox with my naturopath and doctor who stated it has a lot of health benefits including weight loss.
A naturopath would say that. They have no actual training in nutrition or medicine that actually works. I'm surprised your naturopath isn't selling them to you directly, to be honest. Also you'll gain any weight back when you go back to eating food again, since you'll be putting mass back into your body.
The focus is not weight loss. My question is regarding making it fresh or go for store bought brand.
And you're trusting a pretend doctor for advice. You have a built-in detox system that's running optimally - if it wasn't, you'd be in the emergency room. It's literally not going to do anything for you, and if it's getting nutrients that you want, why not eat the whole food which your body is built to break down and use, instead of liquids where half the good stuff is already tossed out and the rest won't get as absorbed fully into your system as it would if you actually ate the fruit and veg? How do you know I have a detox system that is running optimally?
Are you on dialysis? Are any of your organs failing? If you don't have actual concerns with your liver or kidneys, your system is running fine. And anything that is actually accumulating in your body like heavy metals would need specific chelation therapy, not green drinks.
Stick to the question.
Please understand, this is an open forum and many come here via Google or other paths and may come across your post.
To that end, it is important to respond to the ideas and concepts brought up by your post, as opposed to to a simple response, or no response, based on what you are looking for.
So, you do not have the ability, nor should you, to limit the responses in the thread to just what you want them to be.
It's important to point out the uselessness of the detox smoothies so the next person wondering about them has some useful information, like that they are a waste of time and money.
So, take what you want from this thread but understand it's not all about you.
Green smoothies just like green juices is filled with healthy vitamins and nutrients. A little weird how people would think consuming a beverage with healthy ingredients is worthless. But your right its your opinion.
I don’t see anyone saying that smoothines ( green or any other color) are bad or worthless. The concerns are the ideas of detoxing, eating only veggie/fruit based smoothies for days, and turning to smoothies as a medical treatment.
The smoothie will give you nutrients but it won’t give you all of the nutrients you need for a healthy balanced diet, it won’t speed up your metabolism or the process in which your liver functions waste (detox), and it won’t be able to replace medical treatment if there is an actual medical condition5 -
DisneyDude85 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
Not the only thing that's going to be a different color when you use beets
I freaked out the first time I saw this phenomenon. I thought I was dying.
Me too! I ate a bag of beet chips from Trader Joe's and about lost my *kitten*!3 -
DisneyDude85 wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »The funny thing is I just finished a green smoothie. I am having one of my unmotivated to eat days so the smoothie fills some gaps.
I bought supplies for a smoothie and was looking forward to it, but then realized that I have stuff getting close to going bad, so better finish that first. Today's lunch is beets and pudding. I have a lovely rice with beans, veggies, and salsa for supper though. The smoothie will have to wait.
ETA: As I was typing this I realized that the pudding was made with milk that is most certainly off by now. This is just one example of how I sometimes regret my food choices. :sick:
I put beets smoothies. Of course, they aren't green when you do that.
Not the only thing that's going to be a different color when you use beets
I freaked out the first time I saw this phenomenon. I thought I was dying.
I remember the first time DBF and I ate red velvet cake.2
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