It’s all about calorie deficit, got it! But....

1. Tighten up your logging
2. Open your food journal so people can see what you're doing that's holding you back

ellie7187 wrote: »

I currently use a scale and I measure out all liquids as well, for meals that I plan. I use a meal service (they send you the recipe and all ingredients pre-portioned to prep and you cook the meal) and I’ve wondered if maybe their calorie labels for the meals are wayyyyy off.

At the gym I do group exercise classes - 3 times a week the weight training class, 2 times a week cardio, and occasionally a yoga class as well if I have time. I log these calories (via MFP pre-set logging) but I know it’s inaccurate so I don’t eat them back on the majority of days.

I do go off the rails by a couple hundred calories here and there, but I always make sure to log it. And then I’m still under my weekly calorie goal.

I think what I’m mostly (prematurely) worried about is when I do finally hit my goal weight...will I have to eat as if I’m trying to lose weight just to maintain given that I’m at a significant deficit now and basically maintaining.

You might try logging some of the meal service recipes in the recipe builder here if you're worried they're off.

Take a close look at portions. I've never used a meal service but I expect that their portion sizes are much larger than what I would choose to stay within my goal. If anything is pre-mixed, that's going to be like restauranting. A wlid guess.

Studies have shown that eating say 100 grams of protein and 50g carbs is better for weight loss than the other way around. Carbs trigger more insulin release than protein or fat. Fat triggers the least insulin release. Insulin is the hormone that shuttle carbs into the muscles and liver, but it also stores fat and stops fat burning. Macros absolutely play a part in weight loss. Yes everyone is different. Typically skinny people AKA ectomorphs burn carbs very efficiently, whereas endomorphs like myself do not.

So, considering she has been at a significant deficit (her words), she needs to make a change. I think adjusting her macros is a good place to start.

Maybe it's the meal delivery service. Perhaps their measurements are inaccurate.

A side note, you say your blood works are, "within normal range". Have you ever been told if you are at the low end or the higher end of these "normal" numbers. Pardon me if I assume you are referring to thyroid numbers.

One of the thyroid support sites, sorry I can't remember which one gave the details of the testing which was done to achieve these numbers. Over a period of time, in one hospital, a second test was performed on a sample taken for another test. This sample was devoid of any information about the donation. The sample could have been from a person with a hypothyroid diagnosis, or someone diagnosed hyper. It could also be from an individual who has no person in the genetic family with thyroid endocrine issues, alternatively this person could be someone previously not diagnosed from a family with a long history of thyroid conditions. The total value of each sample was not known. So by the time they have woked the magic averages, established value bands and the like, what can they tell you, from this sample of x persons the numbers they identified came between this and that and from this we consider this is the "normal range" .......... full of problematic assumptions.

Op it is possible for a person such as you or myself to function at our personal level which could be high or low on their scale but we will never know because we are only ever told we are within NORMAL range, one size fits all. Someone at the low end might feel better at a higher level. Little if any interest is take of the list of symptoms an undiagnosed person with endocrine issues will present with, their combination of 300 recognised symptoms, other than the "I can't loose weight" which as everyone above agrees can contain so many variables of, correct activity level, correct/accurate logging and the rest.

In the UK, the powers which be have decided, a person with adequate t4, the least active for of thyroid hormones will automatically be able to convert them into the active t3. We are not tested for the active form t3. Some people have a genetic presidpositon not to be able to perform this coungering act. Some are creating inverted t3 known as reverse t3 which are unable to fit the cell receptors and simply can not work, total t3 does not take this anomaly into account, you have t3, what are you twittering about! Others may have a diet, through no fault of their own which is low in the required vitamins and minerals to achieve this transformation or require a higher amount.

You may have heard of tsh, this is the thyroid stimulating hormone it is produced in one of the other endocrine glands to prompt the thyroid to make t4 starting the cycle but is that gland working? they don't seem to care. Our over lords, decided all everyone requires is a supliment of t4, which they supply in pill form with fillers like dairy extracts and may be other allergens; the liquid form is full of preservatives too. To add insult to injury all this product is, is iodine, without any of the componants to aid conversion. Our diet should provide, something like 150 microns of iodine, if we do not use dairy, milk we are loosing 15microns for every 100 ml, if you use a full milk youghurt the number doubles add fruit to the weight and the microns drop. A medium egg has may be 24 micron per egg. Some fish species do contain more micron per gram of food weight. Say someone has 150 ml of milk at breakfast, and 2 eggs, we have 45+48= 93 if we use no more iodine rich foods we are automatically lacking.

Coming back to the blood test numbers game. Autoimmune conditions are only diagnosed when antibody tests are carried out. Its is almost on principal UK persons are not generally tested for antibodies, in part because the treatment is the same, but also because, it is not accepted that foodparticles can contribute to the problems by molicule mimicry, entering the body in too large sizes and then are mistaken for, most commonly the thyroid cells its the Hashimotos antibodys head for the thyroid and set about decreasing the volume of the thyroid so there is less to do the required thyroid thing balancing most enzymes and other functions in the body. In some people these antibodies attach other organs or glands, even in some the inner ear causing tinnitus. Its easier for the medics to prescribe t4 and if you do not achieve better health, its all in your head.

they forget the mental health symptoms some experience, others have diabeties, or, digestive problems, even reproductive difficulties or respiritory or cardiac issues, it seems to matter not that treated aprpriately the dibeties would deminish, the reproductive issues would evaporate and the number of colisystectomies would deminish no end. Please don't forget the cancers, in the same way as thyroid hormones regulate human reproduction systems they also impact on the reproduction of each and every cell. and please don't forget allergies and intolerances can be attributed to the endocrine system.

A thyroid condition is much much more than the "I can't loose weight".

If anyone has any interest, please referr to any of the many national and internations thyroid support sites you will find chapter and verse in these. (I referr to Thyroid UK, and Stop the thyroid Madness. there is the Hypothyroid Mom. and many many more reprutable books and sites. Teaching Hospitals also publish.


OP, I sincerely hope this is not you and personally calculating portion size for your self really does work. The last icondition I would want for anyone is anything related to the thyroid, promise.