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  • bootyrubsandtacos
    bootyrubsandtacos Posts: 775 Member
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    777Gemma888 wrote: »
    bootyrubsandtacos wrote: »
    I missed your post the first time @777Gemma888 I’m going to look up that doc. I agree with you about the industry needing to take better precautions to protect their performers. I don’t really see it happening though, unfortunately. It’s obvious a certain “element” runs the industry and they don’t really give a sh*#! about the health of their stars. Anyone can be replaced and all they care about is the dough. It’s very sad indeed. How do you know so much about the industry?

    How do you know so much about the industry?

    My sister, our brother and I all have legal background (UK), minoring in Sex & Gender Laws. As some of you may know, we’re Islanders, with entrenched Anglican, Catholic and Methodist background. When an American film-maker approaches one’s parent to fund local productions highlighting facets of one’s natural heritage and happens to be an acclaimed Director, Producer in his specialised field of films, what one wouldn’t have had the slightest interest in becomes a curiosity. Life and its prurient ways you know?! Naturally, we’d looked him up at the Directors Guild and did not find him there. We didn’t immediately think him a liar and we’d thought - maybe he is an Indie Film-maker. Upon asking my sister’s ex at the time, who loans money to professional poker players, he’d mentioned that it’s a familiar name in the porn industry and had we tried googling him. We did and all his productions were listed, which we’d viewed, only that we immediately thought - Not Mum - Dad and us - yes. Oh Gawd - Mum - she can not. She didn’t even watch one movie back then lol She’s typically Methodist - the puritanical lines of exposure - conservative. Any and all manner of what is worldly were introduced by our late father lol

    So - long story short, we got the investment package to mull over. As a happenstance we like to do our due diligence. From the basement to the penthouse and the rooftop - How does every corner of this industry (its economy) make money? Strangely enough, after being introduced to a woman in Chatsworth who is a maven in the industry, she’d vocalised that the Skid Row level of the industry (ie the guerilla companies) were minting more profit than the traditional houses. What eventuated - we’d asked for an in - to bear witness to guerilla film-making in this industry at every facet. If we were going to make money, we’d wanted to see how to make it happen with the least amount of funds. Bear in mind, that by this point, we’d already had much experience and immersion in the proper filming industry - mainstream.

    It’s obvious a certain “element” runs the industry and they don’t really give a sh*#! about the health of their stars

    When you’re in our capacity in this industry - they refer to you as - an investor-spy. Strangely enough, it is the very same term they’d give you, if you were to privy productions in the mainstream. What is refreshing about this sub-category within this industry is that they are more openbook with their books and how much money one still photo can generate, for example. So if you were to imagine how many times they can break up a 5 mins film … Money! It proves how we women are infinite as a resource, proven via the continuing ask …. It never stops and its an upward trend. Eg young, white, blonde, light-eyed, slim. That’s the base-ask at entry level. It redefines what beauty is. It is saturated by this ask, however when new talent is introduced, the banked money uptick can overload the system. Nothing else has changed. Same set, same costumes, slight tweaks, same angles, same actor. She makes more money than her almost clone-ish double from the day before. She’s fresh off the farm, unsullied, the most endangered and the primed for exploit product. Every producer wants her. Every director wants to film her. Every Booker is asking for her name. She'll be booked within 3 months, to be filmed from California to London. Turnaround for her at best is around US$150K. Her expiration date is within 3 months IF she was not astute enough to have gone into partnership with any one of “the elements” who can book all her shoots within a day, where she would have the minimum of 25% of content rights. They don’t get royalties like actors/singers do. They are not like Uber/Lyft, where company cars are required to go in for servicing after x number of miles and the wheels need to be turned. The industry believes that they are compensated enough for 10 mins of work for $1,500. This is entry level. This is akin to being signed by a big modeling agency. These are your pictures, but they are just demo reels. They give this to the big film makers of this industry … <Enter> Director/Producer, the likes of whom approached our Mum for funding.

    As coloured women in America, we didn't favour being stigmatised as the financial backers to the unraveling and demoralisation of white American women, barring any health complications as a result of their sacrifice. We advised our Mum, "No!" Unfortunately, the targeted girls are usually from America's Bible belt or areas saturated with poverty ... The targeted employment area touted to EB5 investors.

    Eta: fix quote

    No disrespect, but I found your post really confusing. Maybe I’m just slow. So basically your mom got approached by a small time porn director for funding, you and your siblings were naturally curious and decided to do some research on the dude, and then you met some lady who knew all about the industry who said that low rent porn is where the money is at, and then you guys did a ton of research and ended up investing in it???? So you don’t really support the industry and the way it works, but the money is good so you (your mom?) stay in it?????

  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,440 Member
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    I wonder what he's doing?
  • k8eekins
    k8eekins Posts: 2,264 Member
    edited May 2018
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    A friend who teaches within the State of California, often shares his concerns about the method(s) of teaching and the challenges he faces in the classroom, mostly Mathematics, only with what I'm viewing (Unreported World's focus) it's no wonder students are finding it quite trying ... They can't understand the instructions or any descriptions, if they are to read it.

    ETA: Add link, add channel with featured subject issue.
  • JMed29
    JMed29 Posts: 94 Member
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    Learning to move on without getting into another relationship.
  • 777Gemma888
    777Gemma888 Posts: 9,578 Member
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    bootyrubsandtacos wrote: »
    No disrespect, but I found your post really confusing.

    None taken, as you'd clearly failed to read it as it was written.
    bootyrubsandtacos wrote: »
    So basically your mom got approached by a small time porn director for funding,

    If you'd read the last sentence in paragraph 4, I clearly state that the entry level porn actors give their reels to the "big film makers" ...Enter the Director/Producer who'd approached our Mum. He is no small time Producer/Director with over 200 films aired on Playboy, Hustler and Penthouse@ his soft porn film productions. I would imagine those wanting to enter this industry would like to skip the process and meet him, with the likelihood of being cast in his films.
    bootyrubsandtacos wrote: »
    you and your siblings were naturally curious and decided to do some research on the dude, and then you met some lady who knew all about the industry who said that low rent porn is where the money is at, and then you guys did a ton of research

    That is basically what due diligence is. As responsible investors, one must deconstruct the business to see if it is feasible. He was a man who'd presented himself to the government in the islands as an upstanding filmmaker. Was he? Yes and no. The man failed to say to a Methodist (my Mum in a predominantly Methodist country), with money to spend that he wrote, produced and directed porn. In his industry he is George Lucas, only that he isn't "Hollywood."

    Internet porn companies were the targets of the term used by a woman who'd received Hedge fund backing to revive a major brand in this industry, as the Skid Row of the industry, as they are non traditional. She is highly respected in this industry herself mirroring the Director/Producer who'd approached my Mum.

    Low rent? Is that slang? Comparatively to the hundreds of millions to billion dollars starter porn companies, any filmmaking company with less than $90 million, is considered small in this industry. Those who monetise porn on the net, are making bank. They are ahead of the curve with real money being made daily. These rogue type porn companies have become thorns to the initial Porn Industry starters (known by name to the Department of Justice), who have had to deal with their subscriptions being dropped by US military commissaries and hotels - a direct result of failure to move stock for one, likely due to porn being so accessible online.
    bootyrubsandtacos wrote: »
    and ended up investing in it???? So you don’t really support the industry and the way it works, but the money is good so you (your mom?) stay in it?????

    No, we did not as clarified in my last paragraph. The money is good for those who know how to preempt online trends in this industry within their preferred niches and segments.
  • TonyB0588
    TonyB0588 Posts: 9,520 Member
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    A wedding (not mine).
  • 777Gemma888
    777Gemma888 Posts: 9,578 Member
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    JMed29 wrote: »
    Learning to move on without getting into another relationship.

    A difficult feat as you'd be surrounded daily by "great prospects." Hugs!
  • slimgirljo15
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    Will_Workout_for_food wrote: »
    slimgirljo15 wrote: »
    I wonder what he's doing?

    Grilling a steak

    Ohh yum. I just had a bacon, egg and hash brown roll for breakfast. :p
  • Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings
    Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings Posts: 5,545 Member
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    My baby guy. Missing him.
  • The_Canadian_Apex
    The_Canadian_Apex Posts: 572 Member
    edited May 2018
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    UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »
    Trying to think of a word that rhymes with "pistachio " .....and all I can think of is "...just ask me you'

    Mustachio ;)
  • mustacheU2Lift
    mustacheU2Lift Posts: 5,844 Member
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    UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »
    SabotageinStilettos wrote: »
    UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »
    Trying to think of a word that rhymes with "pistachio " .....and all I can think of is "...just ask me you'

    Mustachio?

    But is that a real thing?

    Yes
  • mustacheU2Lift
    mustacheU2Lift Posts: 5,844 Member
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    I wonder...would it have been different if i left sooner.
  • The_Canadian_Apex
    The_Canadian_Apex Posts: 572 Member
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    SabotageinStilettos wrote: »
    UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »
    Trying to think of a word that rhymes with "pistachio " .....and all I can think of is "...just ask me you'

    Mustachio?

    Totally didn't see yours but funny we had the same response :D

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