Fruit and veg free??
Carlamurfet
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Hi hoping someone can help me, on other diets i know fruit and veg are free and can eat quite abit, also i know every barcode has calories, do you still have to put the calories in ur daily amount please.
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Fruits and vegetables do have calories and should be logged accordingly, though some are not very calorie-dense and can be used to help satisfy hunger.15
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Are you doing weight watchers because all fruit and vege are free over at that joint. I don't do the barcode thing but I know the WW has a gadget/app you do that with.
Vege and fruit aren't really free so to speak. Everything counts but if you're doing points that's a whole other ball of wax. I count everything. All tiddlywinks, pints of fruit, broccoli, kale, celery, carrots and every single nut. Figs, prunes, dried apricots, dried cherries. I measure those babies out.6 -
Fruit and vegetables have calories, so yea, count them. Get a food scale to get you good at eyeballing portion sizes.6
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Water is the only thing without calories.
Everything else counts. Even things with very few calories add up.
Weigh, measure, and log everything.
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Thank you for your comments they are helpful 😀 , ive done ww for years and really bored of it so trying something new.
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Carlamurfet wrote: »Hi hoping someone can help me, on other diets i know fruit and veg are free and can eat quite abit, also i know every barcode has calories, do you still have to put the calories in ur daily amount please.
WW uses a point system which does not correlate with calories. They make things like veg and fruit "free" to get people to eat more and then they inflate the points of other things to compensate.
Counting points isn't the same thing as counting calories. Fruit and veg have calories...some of them have quite a few calories...1 medium apple is nearly 100 calories.5 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Carlamurfet wrote: »Hi hoping someone can help me, on other diets i know fruit and veg are free and can eat quite abit, also i know every barcode has calories, do you still have to put the calories in ur daily amount please.
WW uses a point system which does not correlate with calories. They make things like veg and fruit "free" to get people to eat more and then they inflate the points of other things to compensate.
Counting points isn't the same thing as counting calories. Fruit and veg have calories...some of them have quite a few calories...1 medium apple is nearly 100 calories.
I only started using this app yesterday and scanning the fruit and veg im shocked at how many calories they have in it, the good thing about this is it encourages you to exercise more to get extra calories lol i will get the hang of it in a few days.4 -
Carlamurfet wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Carlamurfet wrote: »Hi hoping someone can help me, on other diets i know fruit and veg are free and can eat quite abit, also i know every barcode has calories, do you still have to put the calories in ur daily amount please.
WW uses a point system which does not correlate with calories. They make things like veg and fruit "free" to get people to eat more and then they inflate the points of other things to compensate.
Counting points isn't the same thing as counting calories. Fruit and veg have calories...some of them have quite a few calories...1 medium apple is nearly 100 calories.
I only started using this app yesterday and scanning the fruit and veg im shocked at how many calories they have in it, the good thing about this is it encourages you to exercise more to get extra calories lol i will get the hang of it in a few days.
This is why some people find that WW doesn't really work for them. Fruit and vegetables do have calories. Some people find it very easy to eat hundreds of calories of fruits and vegetables and that's enough to cause problems with consistently creating a deficit if you aren't counting them.7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Carlamurfet wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Carlamurfet wrote: »Hi hoping someone can help me, on other diets i know fruit and veg are free and can eat quite abit, also i know every barcode has calories, do you still have to put the calories in ur daily amount please.
WW uses a point system which does not correlate with calories. They make things like veg and fruit "free" to get people to eat more and then they inflate the points of other things to compensate.
Counting points isn't the same thing as counting calories. Fruit and veg have calories...some of them have quite a few calories...1 medium apple is nearly 100 calories.
I only started using this app yesterday and scanning the fruit and veg im shocked at how many calories they have in it, the good thing about this is it encourages you to exercise more to get extra calories lol i will get the hang of it in a few days.
This is why some people find that WW doesn't really work for them. Fruit and vegetables do have calories. Some people find it very easy to eat hundreds of calories of fruits and vegetables and that's enough to cause problems with consistently creating a deficit if you aren't counting them.
I've done ww for years and did lose on it but i found i was eating the same foods which got boring, the problem with me is i like snacks so hoping this is a new way of looking at food.2 -
The last time I did Weight Watchers, the free fruit actually had the opposite effect of what was intended. Instead of eating more fruit I was so concerned about inadvertently eating too much of it that I basically stopped eating fruit altogether. Our leader kept explaining that fruit had no points but that didn't mean we could eat as much as we wanted of it and we needed to be careful.
I find I prefer the simplicity of counting my calories and eating what I want, within reason. I don't need to be incentivized to eat fruits and veggies, I like to eat that way.2 -
nickssweetheart wrote: »The last time I did Weight Watchers, the free fruit actually had the opposite effect of what was intended. Instead of eating more fruit I was so concerned about inadvertently eating too much of it that I basically stopped eating fruit altogether. Our leader kept explaining that fruit had no points but that didn't mean we could eat as much as we wanted of it and we needed to be careful.
I find I prefer the simplicity of counting my calories and eating what I want, within reason. I don't need to be incentivized to eat fruits and veggies, I like to eat that way.
I know what you mean, how are you doing on this diet???0 -
I ate nearly 400 calories of fruit and veg yesterday. That's about 1/2 lb/week worth. If they were left unaccounted for, I would be wondering why I was losing so slowly.4
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I have lost 45 lbs since last October, but I still have a ways to go. That includes 6 weeks of self-pity eating and forced inactivity when I sprained my left ankle.2
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I ate nearly 400 calories of fruit and veg yesterday. That's about 1/2 lb/week worth. If they were left unaccounted for, I would be wondering why I was losing so slowly.
It really does amaze me how many calories they have, your information is very helpful, thank you.1 -
I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....9
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nickssweetheart wrote: »I have lost 45 lbs since last October, but I still have a ways to go. That includes 6 weeks of self-pity eating and forced inactivity when I sprained my left ankle.
That's really good and you have to think your 45lbs down and not on so well done.0 -
knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?3 -
knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
Surely you need the goodness from them, so u dont have your 5 a day??1 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?
His profile says he's on keto. Make of that what you will.
OP, vegetables and to a lesser degree fruit are less calorie-dense than other foods in general, which is why WW thinks they can get away with making them 'free.' However, MFP is a calorie-counting app first and foremost. Your body is going to count the calories, whether you do or not
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L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?
Planning is easier without options to make it complex ....
Am doing the carnivore diet for the month of June, but yes Keto is the staple. I put this out only because of the title of the op....make of that what you will.L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
His profile says he's on keto. Make of that what you will.2 -
knotgood77 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?
Planning is easier without options to make it complex ....
Am doing the carnivore diet for the month of June, but yes Keto is the staple. I put this out only because of the title of the op....make of that what you will.knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
His profile says he's on keto. Make of that what you will.
Different kind of fruit and veg free 1 -
knotgood77 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?
Planning is easier without options to make it complex ....
Am doing the carnivore diet for the month of June, but yes Keto is the staple. I put this out only because of the title of the op....make of thatL1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
His profile says he's on keto. Make of that what you will.
The quotes are messed up. Ugh.
Adding vegetables to one’s diet is not complicated. Lame0 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
So an all meat diet. How is that easier?
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Carlamurfet wrote: »knotgood77 wrote: »I am fruit and vegetable free....and grain free as well. Planning meals is so much easier that way....
Surely you need the goodness from them, so u dont have your 5 a day??
@Carlamurfet Yay, you, Carla. You're sweet as a bug. Have you heard that malarkey how there's nothing in fruit that you can't get out of a vegetable. Malarkey. There are certain enzymes in fruit that you cannot get out of a frozen spinach ball. If I had a dollar for everytime somebody tried to convince me that fruit was just plain worthless, why I'd be a zillionaire. I am fruit loose. There are certain fruits that have some of the strongest impact on lipid levels and your total cholesterol profile.
There are people who wouldn't dare touch a piece of fruit but need a cheat meal full of multi-cr@p to keep them going. Where's the logic in that. When the compensatory measures no longer work with multi-cr@p cheat meals the pancreas is becoming sensitive to glucose...
A piece of fruit is not the same as deliberately engineered to be craved foods. I've never sat down and went on a thrill eating ride with fruit. Not one time.
I don't eat fruit all of the live long day but when I do, fruit keeps life interesting. Eat your fruit, Carla.
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Fruits and vegetables are low calorie density, and high in fiber, water and micro-nutrients. They should be logged, as they do have calories, but there is certainly a lot of value in keeping them in your diet. They are also very satisfying, given the high fiber, water and nutrient content.2
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I had 192kcal of fruit and veg yesterday. If I were on a small calorie deficit then I might have wiped out most of it by not counting fruit and veg.2
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I lost 96 pounds on WW and have maintained below goal for a while. Can't knock 'em and still go to their meetings and monthly weigh in...but I had to stop counting points and start counting calories. Their "free" fruits and vegetables had me with way too many calories. I'd like to lose body fat and WW encouraged too many carbs, even if the "good" kind. I just need to be more exact now to reach my new goals. I log every bite of everything I eat here.2
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Carlamurfet wrote: »
Well, everything takes up calories - but most fruit and veg are low calorie compared to most other foods.
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Carlamurfet wrote: »
It can be really good when fruit and vegetables take up a significant portion of your calories (assuming you're tracking and it doesn't cause you to go over your goal) because fruits and vegetables are nutrient-rich. Additionally, many people find that a diet with lots of fruits and vegetables (especially those higher in fiber) helps control their appetite.
So if you're wanting to save lots of calories for other things, I guess it would be a negative thing to have a lot of calories come from fruits and vegetables -- that would be something to figure out. But in and of itself, I think it might be beneficial for many people to consider getting more of their calories from fruits and vegetables.2
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