Thought on diet sodas
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The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing
This goes beyond weight.
...... what if she's right?
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »The worst thing about diet soda is thier acidity level. They can be very bad on teeth. Zero calorie drinks do not hinder weight loss (other than they may lead to water retention, but that's water, not fat)
How would they lead to water retention? Hope the answer isn't sodium because the sodium concentration in sodas is significantly lower than the homeostatically regulated sodium concentration in our cells and blood. If you choose to drink a soda instead of drinking nothing the net effect over time would be your sodium levels would go down not up.
Sheer volume still in the digestive tract.3 -
Motorsheen wrote: »The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
...... what if she's right?
* ducks & covers!
Woo!3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »The worst thing about diet soda is thier acidity level. They can be very bad on teeth. Zero calorie drinks do not hinder weight loss (other than they may lead to water retention, but that's water, not fat)
How would they lead to water retention? Hope the answer isn't sodium because the sodium concentration in sodas is significantly lower than the homeostatically regulated sodium concentration in our cells and blood. If you choose to drink a soda instead of drinking nothing the net effect over time would be your sodium levels would go down not up.
Sheer volume still in the digestive tract.
How would that be any different than water or any other liquid?4 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
...... what if she's right?
* ducks & covers!
Woo!
Yeah.... My 'Woo Count' is a bit low.
I thought maybe I'd poke a bear with a sharp stick.
..... and steal his Diet Coke.3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »The worst thing about diet soda is thier acidity level. They can be very bad on teeth. Zero calorie drinks do not hinder weight loss (other than they may lead to water retention, but that's water, not fat)
How would they lead to water retention? Hope the answer isn't sodium because the sodium concentration in sodas is significantly lower than the homeostatically regulated sodium concentration in our cells and blood. If you choose to drink a soda instead of drinking nothing the net effect over time would be your sodium levels would go down not up.
Sheer volume still in the digestive tract.
How would that be any different than water or any other liquid?
Never said it was.1 -
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »The worst thing about diet soda is thier acidity level. They can be very bad on teeth. Zero calorie drinks do not hinder weight loss (other than they may lead to water retention, but that's water, not fat)
How would they lead to water retention? Hope the answer isn't sodium because the sodium concentration in sodas is significantly lower than the homeostatically regulated sodium concentration in our cells and blood. If you choose to drink a soda instead of drinking nothing the net effect over time would be your sodium levels would go down not up.
Sheer volume still in the digestive tract.
How would that be any different than water or any other liquid?
They taste better, so I drink more! ;D0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »The worst thing about diet soda is thier acidity level. They can be very bad on teeth. Zero calorie drinks do not hinder weight loss (other than they may lead to water retention, but that's water, not fat)
How would they lead to water retention? Hope the answer isn't sodium because the sodium concentration in sodas is significantly lower than the homeostatically regulated sodium concentration in our cells and blood. If you choose to drink a soda instead of drinking nothing the net effect over time would be your sodium levels would go down not up.
Sheer volume still in the digestive tract.
Okay water retention doesn't refer to water in your digestive tract it refers to water that is...well....retained. Water retention occurs when there is an excess of solutes in your body....primary offenders there being sodium and glycogen. If what you injest has more water than solutes in it relative to the concentrations in your body then it will reduce not increase water retention.
Your digestive tract is just a cavity that is outside of your actual body and is connected by two holes to the outside world.11 -
Pet peeve, calling “do your research” a review of the top ten google hits.
I looked harder and deeper. I did test my blood sugar before and after meals. Guaranteed spiky? Ice cream, pizza, bread, cake, potatoes and rice. Diet soda NEVER spiked my insulin/blood sugar response either way. It’s virtually water.
Top effect of my biome (fully anecdotal here), Kefir. All positive.12 -
The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
Well I have done my research so to speak and I strongly disagree with your stated claims. I am willing to back up and argue my position but given within your first post you state with pride that you are unwilling to do so yourself I suppose there is little point in doing that.
To be blunt being a personal trainer and nutritionist really has nothing to do with weather or not you understand what you are saying on this matter so that attempt to argue from authority doesn't even really make sense. Even if your background was relevant simply leaning on that while announcing proudly you have no interest in backing up your own claims is poor form.
Congratulations on clearly being extremely fit but yeah that doesn't give you special insight here.18 -
The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
Further evidence anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.
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I think they taste great with certain foods like homemade pizza, tacos, or pasta with red sauce...totally hit the spot, especially Diet Pepsi or Pibb Zero. Me and my husband buy a 12 pack about once a month, and drink a couple of cans each week. That's exactly the right amount for me, I think. I used to drink zero water and 1 diet soda with both lunch and dinner every day. I feel a lot better drinking tons of water and just having the occasional diet soda.
I don't think it's somehow evil or causes severe problems in the average adult - but like anything else, excessive consumption is probably not a great idea.
I also really like flavored Perrier or LaCroix and plain San Pellegrino, but I don't feel like those are remotely similar to diet soda aside from the fact they're both carbonated. If I'm craving a Diet Pepsi, Perrier isn't going to touch that craving...same with the reverse. Just not the same (for me).0 -
I like the new variety of Coke Zero drinks. I don't personally use them much, but I am willing to buy them for my family. They are willing to consume them.0
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This thread made me feel better about drinking about... two cans? Sometimes one, sometimes three cans of diet soda. Coke zero in any flavor is my greatest weakness.1
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The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
If a rat were fed nothing other than aspartame for just enough time to not die of starvation, and then were killed so its microbiome could be examined, the mad scientist would, in fact, discover that the gut microbiome had starved to death because the rat didn't consume any food for the gut microbiome to eat.
This unethical experiment has not been run on humans and you have zero evidence that any human gut microbiome has been even a little bit altered by consumption of aspartame.
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how the hades do you gain weight from what is virtually nothing though. that doesn't make sense4
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I have been a diabetic for many years. I have never ever had a Dr. suggest to me drinking diet soda is a good idea. Yes of course I have been told not to drink a regular soda unless in a diabetic sugar crash. Endocrinologists across the board advise against diet soda to their diabetic patients. I was very surprised to see someone say that Dr's were informing patients to drink diet sodas.
Again I think, many people have addiction to diet soda, sure reads like some here have for Diet Dr. Pepper. I admit once in awhile I like the IBC Diet Root Beer. But for most part try to stay away. Overall I think all the um interesting items that go into diet sodas may not be good for the human body, but it is up to each person to decide if they wish to partake of it.22 -
The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
you speak the truth. And research is showing the microbiome is more crucial to our well-being than previously thought. Mentally as well as physically.26 -
maureenkhilde wrote: »I have been a diabetic for many years. I have never ever had a Dr. suggest to me drinking diet soda is a good idea. Yes of course I have been told not to drink a regular soda unless in a diabetic sugar crash. Endocrinologists across the board advise against diet soda to their diabetic patients. I was very surprised to see someone say that Dr's were informing patients to drink diet sodas.
How about the American Diabetes Association's website itself, on their "What Can I Drink" page?
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/making-healthy-food-choices/what-can-i-drink.htmlTired of Water?
There are other options!
Mix it up by choosing unsweetened teas. Hot or cold - black, green, and herbal teas provide lots of variety. You could also try sparkling water or making your own infused water at home. To make infused water, simply put water in the fridge with cucumbers, strawberries, fresh mint for a refreshing low-calorie drink. Get creative and invent your own natural fruit or herbal infusion or buy one of the many 0 calorie drinks on the market.
Most diet drinks (like diet soda or diet tea) have zero grams of carbohydrate per serving, so they will not raise blood glucose on their own. These diet drinks are sweetened with non-nutritive sweeteners instead of added sugars. Removing the added sugars and replacing them with low-calorie sweeteners removes most of the calories and carbohydrates. It is important to consider that these products may help reduce calorie and carbohydrate intake only if they are used in place of other higher calorie or carbohydrate drinks.
Other low-calorie drinks and drink mixes are available in several flavors. They may be a good alternative to regular lemonade, iced tea, fruit punch, etc. These drinks also use low-calorie sweeteners in place of sugar. They are very low in calories (about 5-10 calories per 8-ounce portion) and have less than 5 grams of carbohydrate per serving.18
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