BEST DIET
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cwolfman13 wrote: »tobybear72 wrote: »So is eating less sugar, bread, processed food a good way to start?
YES! According to science, bringing down your processed food and sugar intake will help keep you in blood sugar balance, which will aid in your efforts so you are not crashing and craving so much. While, yes, calories in vs calories out is the way it goes for weight loss, fat loss is more from carb depletion. But you still want to get fiber, protein, and fat as well. Just be mindful of what you are eating. An awesome book all about this is "Body Love" by Kelly Leveque. I am obsessed with her and her philosophy/science behind our hormones and hunger.
You know there's a reason they sell books....I'll give you a hint $$$$$$ and also what malibu927 said. Let's not forget that losing weight doesn't require you to buy anything, the information is free and it's simple too, but many choose to ignore it, because eating less calories than you burn doesn't sell.
Or you could also just look up scientific research and find that it's not always as simple as "calories in vs calories out". Just because it may have worked for you, doesn't mean it will for someone else. You can also listen to free podcasts on people talking about this very research, and that's free advice. Being skeptical is one thing, if you don't research the science.
There's a reason why people can go on MFP and lose weight but usually gain it all back. It's because our bodies don't necessarily just work on calories, and who wants to log and measure everything for the rest of their lives? Metabolism is way more complicated than what people like to think it is. And eating 100 calorie pack of sugar is going to have people crashing and burning and wanting more sugar later; than eating a balanced meal of protein, fat, fiber, and greens which will keep us calm, full & satisfied so we aren't constantly in a state of being "hangry" and dieting.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/debunking-the-calorie-myth#section4
articles aren't "research". Most of this article is referring to things like TEF...for someone eating a reasonable good and balanced diet, this is majoring in the minors. These things don't negate CICO (energy equation)...they just change it to some degree...and in most cases, that degree is very minor outside of medical conditions.
I don't care what diet people do...most people gain it back. But here I am in maintenance for over 5 years and eat a wide variety of foods don't calorie count, etc.
And who the *kitten* is eating 100 calorie packs of sugar...strawman *kitten* right there.
Couldn't have said it better myself. But I am pretty sure she will fight tooth and nail to prove that Kelly Leveque is right and we're all wrong. That's what happens when a snake oil salesman (or woman in this case) manages to manipulate your thinking.
Attacking much? Geesh! All I said was that this book was life-changing for me, because it gave me actual science behind hunger, hormones, blood sugar, and how to live a healthy lifestyle for life. And I have found other scientists and doctors who have studied the exact same things and preach the same things she did in the book.
I'd rather eat a 1500 calorie day of getting protein, fat, fiber, and greens at 3 different times of the day; then getting Kind bar and latte at 8am in the morning and then going crazy from hunger by 11pm and ordering take out of a carb loaded lunch, that has me overdoing it and crashing by 3pm and needing a nap.... I feel a lot better when I get my eggs and avocado and greens at breakfast, my salad greens with a fat dressing and chicken and walnuts at lunch, and dinner of salmon and roasted brussel sprouts at dinner; followed by a square of dark chocolate or even a glass of red wine if I want. And that's clocking me in at about 1500 calories for my 5'0" frame and I'm feeling totally calm and satisfied. I then take my bath maybe with that glass of wine to help me unwind, and in bed for a full 8 hours. Getting up well rested and ready for my 30 minute fasted workout to burn off any excess glucose in my system, and doing the damn thing all over again the next day.
So basically what I'm doing, is no different than the CICO method. I just don't need to log at all; and I know the science behind what I'm eating isn't going to make me go crazy. I broke free of the food drama, and it was because a book just pointed in the right direction. Could I have gotten there from reading free articles from other doctors? Probably. Just her tone made it fun to read and I finally was able to understand what was being said.
So excuse me for trying to help someone else out who was in the same place as me at one point. Glad that what's working for you is working; but don't need to put down what I did either.
You still have no clue what CICO is. You still keep mixing it up with calorie counting and we've pointed that error to you many times and you still insist on thinking that it's calorie counting. How can you help someone out as you say when you still don't understand what CICO is? Whether you're counting your calories or not, you're still doing CICO. CICO is not a diet, method or even a lifestyle...it's an energy equation as cwolfman13 said.
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Neither GI nor GL mean a thing unless you are eating your foods in isolation - i.e. you eat a carrot and nothing else, or you eat a piece of bread and nothing else. Once you start mixing foods together, the GI and GL values get all messed up and become meaningless. As an example, take a sandwich made up with white bread, cheese, chicken, lettuce and tomato. The GI values say the white bread is a horrible choice because it will spike your BG because it is such a high GI food. The real world experience is that since the bread is being eaten with other foods, the BG spike is evened out and it is no longer a high GI meal.9 -
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this article.
I'm also a part of that weight loss registry having lost 40 Lbs and having kept it off for over 5 years.10 -
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this article. I am a member of the weight loss registry though.
I'm not diabetic nor am I at risk of being diabetic. Also, when higher GI foods are eaten with other foods, it lowers the GL.
Again, I think you're under some weird assumption that we're saying to just eat crap...nobody has said that. I eat a primarily whole foods based diet, which includes plenty of grains and starches and other "no-nos" even though something like a potato is packed with nutrition. I also have indulgences...they do not make up a large % of my diet. I'm pretty sure having a slice of my 6 years old's birthday cake on Saturday night was just fine...or am I going to die from the sugarz?10 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this article. I am a member of the weight loss registry though.
I'm not diabetic nor am I at risk of being diabetic. Also, when higher GI foods are eaten with other foods, it lowers the GL.
Again, I think you're under some weird assumption that we're saying to just eat crap...nobody has said that. I eat a primarily whole foods based diet, which includes plenty of grains and starches and other "no-nos" even though something like a potato is packed with nutrition. I also have indulgences...they do not make up a large % of my diet. I'm pretty sure having a slice of my 6 years old's birthday cake on Saturday night was just fine...or am I going to die from the sugarz?
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cwolfman13 wrote: »tobybear72 wrote: »So is eating less sugar, bread, processed food a good way to start?
YES! According to science, bringing down your processed food and sugar intake will help keep you in blood sugar balance, which will aid in your efforts so you are not crashing and craving so much. While, yes, calories in vs calories out is the way it goes for weight loss, fat loss is more from carb depletion. But you still want to get fiber, protein, and fat as well. Just be mindful of what you are eating. An awesome book all about this is "Body Love" by Kelly Leveque. I am obsessed with her and her philosophy/science behind our hormones and hunger.
You know there's a reason they sell books....I'll give you a hint $$$$$$ and also what malibu927 said. Let's not forget that losing weight doesn't require you to buy anything, the information is free and it's simple too, but many choose to ignore it, because eating less calories than you burn doesn't sell.
Or you could also just look up scientific research and find that it's not always as simple as "calories in vs calories out". Just because it may have worked for you, doesn't mean it will for someone else. You can also listen to free podcasts on people talking about this very research, and that's free advice. Being skeptical is one thing, if you don't research the science.
There's a reason why people can go on MFP and lose weight but usually gain it all back. It's because our bodies don't necessarily just work on calories, and who wants to log and measure everything for the rest of their lives? Metabolism is way more complicated than what people like to think it is. And eating 100 calorie pack of sugar is going to have people crashing and burning and wanting more sugar later; than eating a balanced meal of protein, fat, fiber, and greens which will keep us calm, full & satisfied so we aren't constantly in a state of being "hangry" and dieting.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/debunking-the-calorie-myth#section4
articles aren't "research". Most of this article is referring to things like TEF...for someone eating a reasonable good and balanced diet, this is majoring in the minors. These things don't negate CICO (energy equation)...they just change it to some degree...and in most cases, that degree is very minor outside of medical conditions.
I don't care what diet people do...most people gain it back. But here I am in maintenance for over 5 years and eat a wide variety of foods don't calorie count, etc.
And who the *kitten* is eating 100 calorie packs of sugar...strawman *kitten* right there.
Couldn't have said it better myself. But I am pretty sure she will fight tooth and nail to prove that Kelly Leveque is right and we're all wrong. That's what happens when a snake oil salesman (or woman in this case) manages to manipulate your thinking.
Attacking much? Geesh! All I said was that this book was life-changing for me, because it gave me actual science behind hunger, hormones, blood sugar, and how to live a healthy lifestyle for life. And I have found other scientists and doctors who have studied the exact same things and preach the same things she did in the book.
I'd rather eat a 1500 calorie day of getting protein, fat, fiber, and greens at 3 different times of the day; then getting Kind bar and latte at 8am in the morning and then going crazy from hunger by 11pm and ordering take out of a carb loaded lunch, that has me overdoing it and crashing by 3pm and needing a nap.... I feel a lot better when I get my eggs and avocado and greens at breakfast, my salad greens with a fat dressing and chicken and walnuts at lunch, and dinner of salmon and roasted brussel sprouts at dinner; followed by a square of dark chocolate or even a glass of red wine if I want. And that's clocking me in at about 1500 calories for my 5'0" frame and I'm feeling totally calm and satisfied. I then take my bath maybe with that glass of wine to help me unwind, and in bed for a full 8 hours. Getting up well rested and ready for my 30 minute fasted workout to burn off any excess glucose in my system, and doing the damn thing all over again the next day.
So basically what I'm doing, is no different than the CICO method. I just don't need to log at all; and I know the science behind what I'm eating isn't going to make me go crazy. I broke free of the food drama, and it was because a book just pointed in the right direction. Could I have gotten there from reading free articles from other doctors? Probably. Just her tone made it fun to read and I finally was able to understand what was being said.
So excuse me for trying to help someone else out who was in the same place as me at one point. Glad that what's working for you is working; but don't need to put down what I did either.
You still have no clue what CICO is. You still keep mixing it up with calorie counting and we've pointed that error to you many times and you still insist on thinking that it's calorie counting. How can you help someone out as you say when you still don't understand what CICO is? Whether your counting your calories or not, you're still doing CICO. CICO is not a diet, method or even a lifestyle...it's an energy equation as cwolfman13 said.
You keep saying that I don't know what CICO is.... So then why don't you tell me? Is it not Calories In vs Calories Out? Then how do you know how many calories you are getting in? And how do you know how many calories you are burning? Let's think that logic through...
Because I have tried to not log before, and I knew I could only consume 1500 calories, but I was getting frustrated and emotional around food choices and ultimately gaining weight. I'm a 5'0" female in my 30s with a low metabolism. I was getting frustrated that I was watching my calories and feeling like I was going to have to do this for the rest of my life. I would feel guilty for eating a cupcake when they were being passed around at work, because I knew I would blow my entire day of I did. Or feeling like I ruined my entire week because my work brought in pizza. So how is that fun?
So for me, breaking down the different macro-nutrients that the author did in her book and explaining what fat does, what protein does, what fiber does, what glucose does helped release the anxiety for me. How getting a serving of fat, fiber, protein and greens helps calm hunger hormones and keeps me balanced and makes me feel better. So again, why is what I'm doing nonsense if there is science behind it? And because it worked for me? And I know it actually works for other's too. And there is plenty of research showing that we all should be more aware of glucose/blood sugar levels. And you know what, I can actually now walk past donuts without going crazy for one. Or I can have one bite (or even a couple) and know what it's doing in my blood stream, and then I can go get-up and make sure I use the glucose that I just consumed and be active to burn it off. Or I can have pizza, but I make sure to volumize it now with vegetables and salad so I don't go over-board; and then I don't feel guilty; because I finally understand what the food choices I'm making are doing to me. And I'm finally not calorie counting either!
I'm done getting attacked. This is why I hate writing on these boards, because you always get people who seem to think they are so right and aren't willing to be open minded. I found facts regarding what I found about balancing blood sugar to find food freedom and weigh what I want without obsessing over calories finally. I was trying to give someone who asked, The OP, some advice since it helped me. But didn't realize I would just get bulled around by others who seem to think they know so much more then scientists and actual research; who just want to nit-pick at every little thing I say, because it doesn't sit well with them to think otherwise.
Just go read up about blood sugar before you come attack me and some tips that I got that finally helped me. You really want to help people? Go educate yourselves, instead of bullying others around who have.
Done and out, because frankly, just don't care anymore to see what you are going to nit-pick in this.14 -
You keep saying that I don't know what CICO is.... So then why don't you tell me? Is it not Calories In vs Calories Out? YES. And it functions whether you pay any attention to it or not. It is NOT A DIET.
Then how do you know how many calories you are getting in? You use a food scale, measuring in grams and using accurate logging entries.
And how do you know how many calories you are burning? You guesstimate and let time and trial tell you if you are correct.
Because I have tried to not log before, and I knew I could only consume 1500 calories, but I was getting frustrated and emotional around food choices and ultimately gaining weight. - Try a food scale.
I'm a 5'0" female in my 30s with a low metabolism. - Then 1500 calories may have been too many.
I was getting frustrated that I was watching my calories and feeling like I was going to have to do this for the rest of my life. I would feel guilty for eating a cupcake when they were being passed around at work, because I knew I would blow my entire day of I did. Or feeling like I ruined my entire week because my work brought in pizza. So how is that fun? - That mental stuff is on you, not CICO.
So for me, breaking down the different macro-nutrients that the author did in her book and explaining what fat does, what protein does, what fiber does, what glucose does helped release the anxiety for me. - Great. Glad you found what works FOR YOU. CICO still applies, though.
How getting a serving of fat, fiber, protein and greens helps calm hunger hormones and keeps me balanced and makes me feel better. So again, why is what I'm doing nonsense if there is science behind it? And because it worked for me? And I know it actually works for others too. And there is plenty of research showing that we all should be more aware of glucose/blood sugar levels. And you know what, I can actually now walk past donuts without going crazy for one. Or I can have one bite (or even a couple) and know what it's doing in my blood stream, and then I can go get-up and make sure I use the glucose that I just consumed and be active to burn it off. Or I can have pizza, but I make sure to volumize it now with vegetables and salad so I don't go over-board; and then I don't feel guilty; because I finally understand what the food choices I'm making are doing to me. And I'm finally not calorie counting either! - CICO still applies. It is NOT counting calories.
I'm done getting attacked. This is why I hate writing on these boards, because you always get people who seem to think they are so right and aren't willing to be open minded. I found facts regarding what I found about balancing blood sugar to find food freedom and weigh what I want without obsessing over calories finally. I was trying to give someone who asked, The OP, some advice since it helped me. But didn't realize I would just get bulled around by others who seem to think they know so much more then scientists and actual research; who just want to nit-pick at every little thing I say, because it doesn't sit well with them to think otherwise.
Just go read up about blood sugar before you come attack me and some tips that I got that finally helped me. You really want to help people? Go educate yourselves, instead of bullying others around who have. - We have educated ourselves, and are trying to fight the woo by helping to educate others. CICO happens. You have no choice.
Done and out, because frankly, just don't care anymore to see what you are going to nit-pick in this.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »
You keep saying that I don't know what CICO is.... So then why don't you tell me? Is it not Calories In vs Calories Out? YES. And it functions whether you pay any attention to it or not. It is NOT A DIET.
Then how do you know how many calories you are getting in? You use a food scale, measuring in grams and using accurate logging entries.
And how do you know how many calories you are burning? You guesstimate and let time and trial tell you if you are correct.
Because I have tried to not log before, and I knew I could only consume 1500 calories, but I was getting frustrated and emotional around food choices and ultimately gaining weight. - Try a food scale.
I'm a 5'0" female in my 30s with a low metabolism. - Then 1500 calories may have been too many.
I was getting frustrated that I was watching my calories and feeling like I was going to have to do this for the rest of my life. I would feel guilty for eating a cupcake when they were being passed around at work, because I knew I would blow my entire day of I did. Or feeling like I ruined my entire week because my work brought in pizza. So how is that fun? - That mental stuff is on you, not CICO.
So for me, breaking down the different macro-nutrients that the author did in her book and explaining what fat does, what protein does, what fiber does, what glucose does helped release the anxiety for me. - Great. Glad you found what works FOR YOU. CICO still applies, though.
How getting a serving of fat, fiber, protein and greens helps calm hunger hormones and keeps me balanced and makes me feel better. So again, why is what I'm doing nonsense if there is science behind it? And because it worked for me? And I know it actually works for others too. And there is plenty of research showing that we all should be more aware of glucose/blood sugar levels. And you know what, I can actually now walk past donuts without going crazy for one. Or I can have one bite (or even a couple) and know what it's doing in my blood stream, and then I can go get-up and make sure I use the glucose that I just consumed and be active to burn it off. Or I can have pizza, but I make sure to volumize it now with vegetables and salad so I don't go over-board; and then I don't feel guilty; because I finally understand what the food choices I'm making are doing to me. And I'm finally not calorie counting either! - CICO still applies. It is NOT counting calories.
I'm done getting attacked. This is why I hate writing on these boards, because you always get people who seem to think they are so right and aren't willing to be open minded. I found facts regarding what I found about balancing blood sugar to find food freedom and weigh what I want without obsessing over calories finally. I was trying to give someone who asked, The OP, some advice since it helped me. But didn't realize I would just get bulled around by others who seem to think they know so much more then scientists and actual research; who just want to nit-pick at every little thing I say, because it doesn't sit well with them to think otherwise.
Just go read up about blood sugar before you come attack me and some tips that I got that finally helped me. You really want to help people? Go educate yourselves, instead of bullying others around who have. - We have educated ourselves, and are trying to fight the woo by helping to educate others. CICO happens. You have no choice.
Done and out, because frankly, just don't care anymore to see what you are going to nit-pick in this.
You beat me to it. She will still argue however, I can feel it in my bones.4 -
tobybear72 wrote: »So is eating less sugar, bread, processed food a good way to start?
Sorry your thread got derailed
Unfortunately, you can't do anything to get your body to lose fat from a specific place. Your genetics determines where you gain and lose weight from. And for the vast majority of us, the tummy is the last stubborn place to go.
The diet and fitness industry will tell you that you need to eat certain foods are do specific exercise because that's what sells supplements, diets, books, etc.
You just have to keep losing. Some of us (myself included) have to get pretty darn skinny to get our mid section the way we want it!
There are a couple of other things to keep in mind that have nothing to do with fat:- Bloating can make your belly look bigger, so if you are dealing with that, figuring it out can help.
- Posture is also helpful. Bad posture and a weak back and/or core can cause you to stand in a way that sticks out your belly.
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What worked for me was eating at the deficit MFP set for me, doing my best to hit protein and iron, and letting the rest fall where it fell. (Which meant in my case moderate-to-moderately high carb, lower—not low—fat). I also stepped up my activity, first with walking and later with strength training.
I have cut back on my bread consumption over time, just because as I lost the weight, my calorie needs got smaller and I found myself cutting back a bit on bread. I still eat it, just not as much. TBH, I find potatoes and squash more satiating, but again that's me.
I never focused on sugar. I decided to only make desserts that came in at 200 calories/serving or fewer, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the sugar that got cut. Most low-cal desserts reduce any or all of flour, sweetener, and fat. So, for example, meringues are basically eggwhites and sugar. Mine usually come in at 30 to 40 calories apiece (unless I'm looking at fancier recipes that incorporate nuts or chocolate). If I'm doing a fruit crisp, I tend to look for fruits that are in season, since they're usually sweeter. The topping is often a bit sparser, because there's traditionally quite a bit of butter, flour, oats, nuts, and sugar in there—some recipes cut back on one element, but a lot just go for a thinner sprinkling of topping ingredients. The low-fat craze is thankfully over, but a couple of my low-fat cookbooks have some desserts that I still make, not because I think fat is "bad", but because some of those desserts are pretty darned good! (Maple Apple Cake, Lemon-Amaretto Apples, I'm looking at you!)
And I eat plenty of processed foods. Veggie dogs and other meat substitutes, Fiber One bars, Greek yogurt, granola bars. I stick to my calories and the weight's dropped off. I've lost 106 lbs in 21 months and I'm closing in on goal.
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If you think this is some sort of ringing endorsement by the Mayo Clinic of focusing on glycemic index of what you eat, you didn't read very carefully. Among other things:You might choose to follow the GI diet because you:
Want to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight
Need help planning and eating healthier meals
Need help maintaining blood sugar levels as part of a diabetes treatment plan
Studies suggest that a GI diet can help achieve these goals. However, you might be able to achieve the same health benefits by eating a healthy diet, maintaining a healthy weight and getting enough exercise.9 -
I offer this link from the "Eat to Live" diet? Really, this is how my husband and I started eating a few years ago, we each lost the weight we wanted to, and now we choose to eat like this because, well, we're old (older -- we're in our 60s), and this helps us feel great! Neither of us are on medications of any type, we both do power yoga 3-4 times per week (Baptiste yoga -- it's done in 92 degrees, so we sweat it all out in addition to strengthening and toning and stetching-- great for the stomach-midriff section btw -- you can't do yoga without a strong core, and that means working the abs!) and, well, we like it. We also like ice cream and wine. I am loving that Halo pistachio ice cream, and a daily glass of Cabernet keeps the doctor away (I hope!) lol!
https://www.drfuhrman.com/library/eat-to-live-blog/90/dr-fuhrmans-nutritarian-pyramid2 -
tobybear72 wrote: »I want to lose my belly fat and I know they say the ketosis diet is good for that. I hear so much about the bad breath and ketone smell. What foods should I eat to help get rid of my belly fat and not get the smell?
A ketogenic diet can help with losing belly fat as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit. You won't be able to spit reduce though. You'll lose weight in the way that your genetics has set up for you. I follow a ketogenic diet and tend to lose weight in my belly and bum faster than in other areas but I think that's more about my genetics than anything.
The bad breath that people mention in association with keto is not that common. I think dehydration (if not replacing the lost electrolytes/salt ) and a diet high in protein is a more common cause. There are some who get bad breath but it isn't common.
I actually had my breath improve. My husband said it was almost sweet smelling. I don't know if that was from improved dental health or gut biome or ketones, but I never had any problem.
I noticed stronger smelling urine, and milder smelling BMs, but that's all.
tobybear72 wrote: »So is eating less sugar, bread, processed food a good way to start?
I'd say cutting out refined and highly processed foods is the best place to start for improved health. To lose weight you need to restrict calories somewhere, either but cutting back on specific macros (like carbs or fat) or restrict all foods to smaller amounts.im of the opinion that you may as well cut back on the foods that are not as healthy for you as the whole foods are (like meat, seafood, eggs, veggies, fruit, etc).
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Thanks guys. I didn't mean to start an argument. I just wanted to know the best way to lose weight. I am 64 and it's harder so just wanted to start getting myself going again.2
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tobybear72 wrote: »Thanks guys. I didn't mean to start an argument. I just wanted to know the best way to lose weight. I am 64 and it's harder so just wanted to start getting myself going again.
No need to apologize. We do this all the time!
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tobybear72 wrote: »Thanks guys. I didn't mean to start an argument. I just wanted to know the best way to lose weight. I am 64 and it's harder so just wanted to start getting myself going again.
A lot of threads turn into arguments. :laugh: Welcome to the forums.
The best diet is the one you can stick to long term while achieving your goals and not feeling deprived. I know, vague answer.
My suggestion would be to spend a week logging what you eat now and then make small changes based on that. See where the bulk of your calories are coming from and decide if you can cut back on some of these items. It takes time, but no one can really say what will be best FOR YOU.0 -
Sugars are Carbs and to much of it is not good you are better of working with veggies and fruits keep you full and to not have the sweet cravings because u are full but then making sure you stay within your calorie budget "don't over do on fruits either". It will come off, just have to balance out your MACROS to have plenty of Carbs, Fats and Protein.
Even if you set ur goal to maintain and keep to your weight as your goal in your MFP Goals you will realize that you have been overeating on calories and then switch it up to start slowly loosing weight per week. And you will actual realize that you are already loosing weight even before you change the setting in you MFP Goals. Diets are just going to not work.10 -
YelizavetaZ wrote: »Sugars are Carbs and to much of it is not good you are better of working with veggies and fruits keep you full and to not have the sweet cravings because u are full but then making sure you stay within your calorie budget "don't over do on fruits either". It will come off, just have to balance out your MACROS to have plenty of Carbs, Fats and Protein.
Even if you set ur goal to maintain and keep to your weight as your goal in your MFP Goals you will realize that you have been overeating on calories and then switch it up to start slowly loosing weight per week. And you will actual realize that you are already loosing weight even before you change the setting in you MFP Goals. Diets are just going to not work.
Vegetables and fruit are mostly carbohydrates.
But that's irrelevant, as weight loss is determined by the calories consumed not how many carbohydrates you have.6 -
YelizavetaZ wrote: »Sugars are Carbs and to much of it is not good you are better of working with veggies and fruits keep you full and to not have the sweet cravings because u are full but then making sure you stay within your calorie budget "don't over do on fruits either". It will come off, just have to balance out your MACROS to have plenty of Carbs, Fats and Protein.
Even if you set ur goal to maintain and keep to your weight as your goal in your MFP Goals you will realize that you have been overeating on calories and then switch it up to start slowly loosing weight per week. And you will actual realize that you are already loosing weight even before you change the setting in you MFP Goals. Diets are just going to not work.
I'm having a really hard time understanding what you are saying here. Let me see if I can parse it out.
Sugars are carbs, yes - but so are fruits and vegetables. Doesn't matter whether the sugar is in an apple, carrot, or cookie - the body processes the sugar the same way.
Too much of any food is not good if it puts you over your calorie alotment for the day and crowds out other nutritional sources.
I believe in balanced macros but people can lose weight and be healthy eating a wide variety of macro splits. It's again, calories that matter for weight management.
Agree that accurate tracking of intake is important. Ideally using a food scale to weigh all solid foods - this is the best way to ensure that you are truly in a calorie deficit.
I don't really like the concept of a short term "diet" that restricts foods that a person doesn't plan to restrict forever, but any approach that provides a sustained calorie deficit over time and then enables a person to transition into an appropriate maintenance plan is going to be successful - whether you call it diet or not is up to the individual.3
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