Did you lose hair while losing weight? Why?

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  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    What Ann is saying is that, for you, the MFP prediction is inaccurate (this is not uncommon-it's just a formula that can't factor in everything). Now that you know, increase your daily target (you can do this manually). No one is saying you have it set at 2lb/week. That's just what is happening. I would start there, and make sure some of those calories are protein.

    Oh okay, thank you!! I thought given her statement "Are you still set at a 2 pound a week target? That's a high-risk target at your current weight." she and other ppl thought I was doing this intentionally!!! I wasn't!

    I am excited to eat more food now lmao. If I did it manually, what would you go for? I don't truly know the average I was getting, I was aiming within a range below the threshold of my goal. Using the guided set up is straightforward, but maybe 1670 is a big jump up. Maybe 1520? 1500? I don't really know what they mean now, especially if the MFP set up is wrong. What do I use as a baseline to try to calculate with?

    Doing the maths, from May 13th - Aug 16th you have lost 25 pounds. This equates to an average of 1.8 pounds a week. If you are currently eating 1420 calories a week this means your TDEE is around 2200 calories a day give or take. To lose 1 pound a week you could probably take your calories up to 1700 a day. I'd increase your calories to somewhere near this number, even 1600 would be better than what you are eating now, and stick with it for 4-6 weeks. Reassess your average weight loss over this time to see whether it can be adjusted further.
    This rapid weight loss can easily cause the hair loss you have been experiencing. Increasing your calories will result in regrowth if this is the case.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    What Ann is saying is that, for you, the MFP prediction is inaccurate (this is not uncommon-it's just a formula that can't factor in everything). Now that you know, increase your daily target (you can do this manually). No one is saying you have it set at 2lb/week. That's just what is happening. I would start there, and make sure some of those calories are protein.

    Oh okay, thank you!! I thought given her statement "Are you still set at a 2 pound a week target? That's a high-risk target at your current weight." she and other ppl thought I was doing this intentionally!!! I wasn't!

    I am excited to eat more food now lmao. If I did it manually, what would you go for? I don't truly know the average I was getting, I was aiming within a range below the threshold of my goal. Using the guided set up is straightforward, but maybe 1670 is a big jump up. Maybe 1520? 1500? I don't really know what they mean now, especially if the MFP set up is wrong. What do I use as a baseline to try to calculate with?

    Maybe start with adding 100 this week and another 100 next week until you get to a happy place. Big jump in the calories may cause a jump on the scale for a day or two. Your real life number are going to be more accurate than any of the calculators. Alternatively, you could change your setting to 0.5lb/week knowing that it will be more than that (if you prefer to just let the program do its thing), or increase your activity level. If you have it set at sedentary increase to lightly active, if it's at lightly active then moderately active, etc.
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    I should add if you don't already know that a 500 calorie deficit equates to around a 1 pound a week loss which is what I based my figures on.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    Something else to consider would be a 1-2 week diet break. It would give you some much needed nutrition. You wouldn't lose (likely see a temporary increase on the scale), but it could make a big difference for you.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    It sounds like your doctor is doing the obvious tests for thyroid, etc. Occam's razor suggests it's the deficit, which can definitely cause hair loss, even if you never went VLCD. I lost a lot of hair while (unintentionally) losing 2+ lbs / week and trying to find the correct dose of thyroid meds. Hopefully it's just the deficit and you've caught it early enough that you can save most of your hair - mine will take a while to recover, mainly at the front. Please update and let us know what you find out when your tests come back! Wishing you well.
  • alabamaheather
    alabamaheather Posts: 24 Member
    This is very common when losing weight. When you stop losing it will stop falling out.
  • deepwoodslady
    deepwoodslady Posts: 12,112 Member
    How do I find that cool weight loss predictions chart?
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    How do I find that cool weight loss predictions chart?
    It’s from the Happy Scale app
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I haven’t seen much about your protein intake. If that is too low then the body will pirate what it needs from elsewhere, including the hair. Keep also in mind that the damage takes weeks to show up, and improvement takes just as long.
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    edited August 2018
    Okay, so I tried to do a bit of math.

    I checked the average calories in the weekly view for over 6 weeks, added and averaged, and (the last 7 days = 1418, July 27- Aug2 =1237, July 20-26 = 1480, July 13-19 = 1306, July 6-12 = 1349, June 29 - July 5 = 1394) and that gives me an average Actual Intake of 1364cals/day.

    Which is less than 100cal under my current "goal" but not it exactly. But that would mean I should be at less than 1/2 lb extra in my loss rate, which it isn't. This 6 weeks is also pretty consistent, if I go further back it swings more dramatically. So I'll just work with this for now.

    So following AnnPT77's calculations, I should consider that my base of losing at 1.7lb/week rate. 1370 = 1.7lb/week loss. If I add 250, it should be a 1/2lb slower. So 1620cal/day should be closer to a 1.2lb/week loss rate.

    But as I've previously discussed, I'm Super Nervous about getting that red indication on my diary, so I'm probably going to shoot under anyway. And 1.2 is still higher than my goal of a reasonable 1lb/week. So 250/2 = 125cal should be 1/4lb, so if I add 125 +1620 = 1745cal/day for a 0.95lb/week loss. Maybe I would just round that to the middle ground of 1700?

    Gosh a jump from 1420 *ahem* excuse me, Actually 1364cal/day to 1700 sounds like a TON. I remember for my first few weeks back logging on MFP I had it set to maintenance and that was like 18-something. Maybe I'll go with a 16-something number so it's less weird. 1680? So that it's just a little higher than the Actual goal of 1620 so I can actually hit it/go over it sometimes without freaking out. Bleh math is weird lmao. I tried. I have to be up in less than 6 hours..... :neutral: lol.

    But I feel like I should share so other people can check my math XD
  • pinuplove
    pinuplove Posts: 12,871 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    Just a small update - giving myself permission to eat more feels a little like I've opened the floodgates and I'm feeling much hungrier than I've felt in a while. Like I'm nearly at my 1590cal goal for the day, but I might eat more now. Thinking that's probably okay considering. And I did just buy a whole slew of clothes so I don't mind staying here a while. I've also started taking a multi, picked one up today and I'm keeping it in my bag to take with lunch. I feel like upping calories & taking a multi is a good proactive approach, even though no results have come back yet.

    I really appreciate all of the guidance, so thank you again.

    My weeks eating at maintenance 'wake the beast' so to speak. I'm far hungrier than when I'm in my usual deficit for the first few days! Hang in there and enjoy the extra food. It's great to see you analyzing and responding :smile:
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    Just a small update - giving myself permission to eat more feels a little like I've opened the floodgates and I'm feeling much hungrier than I've felt in a while. Like I'm nearly at my 1590cal goal for the day, but I might eat more now. Thinking that's probably okay considering. And I did just buy a whole slew of clothes so I don't mind staying here a while. I've also started taking a multi, picked one up today and I'm keeping it in my bag to take with lunch. I feel like upping calories & taking a multi is a good proactive approach, even though no results have come back yet.

    I really appreciate all of the guidance, so thank you again.

    My weeks eating at maintenance 'wake the beast' so to speak. I'm far hungrier than when I'm in my usual deficit for the first few days! Hang in there and enjoy the extra food. It's great to see you analyzing and responding :smile:

    Agreed. It's almost like breaking open a dam when those calories increase.
  • atkhorses
    atkhorses Posts: 45 Member
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Friend if your energy is suffering that badly please eat more. That’s scary! Take care of yourself ❤️
  • Katiebear_81
    Katiebear_81 Posts: 719 Member
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Eat carbs. You’ll feel so much better.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Hair loss doesn't show up immediately.

    Your current weight loss of less than 2lbs a week implies that your earlier weight loss was much more than 2lbs a week to arrive at an average of about 2lbs a week over the past 18 weeks.

    Which is fast for someone who is not over 300lbs.

    So just take it easy. And don't be surprised if caloric restriction had something to do with it

    Okay, thanks. To be fair to the math, my initial high weight could be very off, which is why I always say "about" even though I have this number. I weighed in at the gym on a rickety old upright scale that seemed accurate-ish but with shoes/clothes and definitely after drinking and eating in the day. MFP says I would need to eat below 1200/day to lose 2lb/week. I do not think that happened. My logging is fairly consistent except at restaurant meals, and those days are over anyway. I'm also still obese, even if I was never 300lbs. I was "class 2 obese" according to the chart. Now I'm class 1.

    How tall are you, OP? And even if your logging is tight and on-point, if you’re exercising and not eating back at least half of those calories, that could account for a higher than average deficit.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    I’m late to the game, obviously. :blush: Great job giving advice, great job taking advice and YAY!!! Solution determined and plan created. :smiley:
  • Candyspun
    Candyspun Posts: 370 Member
    I was losing lots of hair when I was gaining weight and now I’ve been losing for over two months, it’s growing in better than it has in years.
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Hair loss doesn't show up immediately.

    Your current weight loss of less than 2lbs a week implies that your earlier weight loss was much more than 2lbs a week to arrive at an average of about 2lbs a week over the past 18 weeks.

    Which is fast for someone who is not over 300lbs.

    So just take it easy. And don't be surprised if caloric restriction had something to do with it

    Okay, thanks. To be fair to the math, my initial high weight could be very off, which is why I always say "about" even though I have this number. I weighed in at the gym on a rickety old upright scale that seemed accurate-ish but with shoes/clothes and definitely after drinking and eating in the day. MFP says I would need to eat below 1200/day to lose 2lb/week. I do not think that happened. My logging is fairly consistent except at restaurant meals, and those days are over anyway. I'm also still obese, even if I was never 300lbs. I was "class 2 obese" according to the chart. Now I'm class 1.

    How tall are you, OP? And even if your logging is tight and on-point, if you’re exercising and not eating back at least half of those calories, that could account for a higher than average deficit.

    5’2” and no exercise. I track my steps at work and log it as 2.0mph walking for 5min per 1000 steps (an estimate someone on the forums helped me with because my tracker doesn’t sync properly). I usually eat that back, if not the day of within the week.
  • atkhorses
    atkhorses Posts: 45 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Friend if your energy is suffering that badly please eat more. That’s scary! Take care of yourself ❤️
    kiela64 wrote: »
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Hair loss doesn't show up immediately.

    Your current weight loss of less than 2lbs a week implies that your earlier weight loss was much more than 2lbs a week to arrive at an average of about 2lbs a week over the past 18 weeks.

    Which is fast for someone who is not over 300lbs.

    So just take it easy. And don't be surprised if caloric restriction had something to do with it

    Okay, thanks. To be fair to the math, my initial high weight could be very off, which is why I always say "about" even though I have this number. I weighed in at the gym on a rickety old upright scale that seemed accurate-ish but with shoes/clothes and definitely after drinking and eating in the day. MFP says I would need to eat below 1200/day to lose 2lb/week. I do not think that happened. My logging is fairly consistent except at restaurant meals, and those days are over anyway. I'm also still obese, even if I was never 300lbs. I was "class 2 obese" according to the chart. Now I'm class 1.

    How tall are you, OP? And even if your loggin,g is tight and on-point, if you’re exercising and not eating back at least half of those calories, that could account for a higher than average deficit.

    5’2” and no exercise. I track my steps at work and log it as 2.0mph walking for 5min per 1000 steps (an estimate someone on the forums helped me with because my tracker doesn’t sync properly). I usually eat that back, if not the day of within the week.

    Maybe this is my body's way of telling me that this is the weight I should maintain. Even though the number on the scale has been lower and that made me feel happier. I know the scale should not rule! Now to add back carbs without gaining what I've lost. This seems to be the problem. And that is even with adding in good carbs: avacados, handful of almonds, on a rare occassion, sweet potato. I am trying to stay gluten free due to hashimoto. Would love your thoughts......
  • atkhorses
    atkhorses Posts: 45 Member
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Eat carbs. You’ll feel so much better.

    thank you, I replied to Keila and would love y our thoughts as well!
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    atkhorses wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Friend if your energy is suffering that badly please eat more. That’s scary! Take care of yourself ❤️
    kiela64 wrote: »
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Hair loss doesn't show up immediately.

    Your current weight loss of less than 2lbs a week implies that your earlier weight loss was much more than 2lbs a week to arrive at an average of about 2lbs a week over the past 18 weeks.

    Which is fast for someone who is not over 300lbs.

    So just take it easy. And don't be surprised if caloric restriction had something to do with it

    Okay, thanks. To be fair to the math, my initial high weight could be very off, which is why I always say "about" even though I have this number. I weighed in at the gym on a rickety old upright scale that seemed accurate-ish but with shoes/clothes and definitely after drinking and eating in the day. MFP says I would need to eat below 1200/day to lose 2lb/week. I do not think that happened. My logging is fairly consistent except at restaurant meals, and those days are over anyway. I'm also still obese, even if I was never 300lbs. I was "class 2 obese" according to the chart. Now I'm class 1.

    How tall are you, OP? And even if your loggin,g is tight and on-point, if you’re exercising and not eating back at least half of those calories, that could account for a higher than average deficit.

    5’2” and no exercise. I track my steps at work and log it as 2.0mph walking for 5min per 1000 steps (an estimate someone on the forums helped me with because my tracker doesn’t sync properly). I usually eat that back, if not the day of within the week.

    Maybe this is my body's way of telling me that this is the weight I should maintain. Even though the number on the scale has been lower and that made me feel happier. I know the scale should not rule! Now to add back carbs without gaining what I've lost. This seems to be the problem. And that is even with adding in good carbs: avacados, handful of almonds, on a rare occassion, sweet potato. I am trying to stay gluten free due to hashimoto. Would love your thoughts......

    If you have an illness that requires dietary restrictions then I really think working with your doctor and a registered dietitian would be the best way. That might help address energy issues too.
  • atkhorses
    atkhorses Posts: 45 Member
    kiela64 wrote: »
    atkhorses wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    atkhorses wrote: »
    I'm experiencing the same hair loss and eating 1400 cals/day. don't have the energy to exercise/walk or prep or cook. Afraid to add in cals because i will gain. Not sure how many grams of protein i am taking in but less than 20 carbs

    Friend if your energy is suffering that badly please eat more. That’s scary! Take care of yourself ❤️
    kiela64 wrote: »
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    kiela64 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Hair loss doesn't show up immediately.

    Your current weight loss of less than 2lbs a week implies that your earlier weight loss was much more than 2lbs a week to arrive at an average of about 2lbs a week over the past 18 weeks.

    Which is fast for someone who is not over 300lbs.

    So just take it easy. And don't be surprised if caloric restriction had something to do with it

    Okay, thanks. To be fair to the math, my initial high weight could be very off, which is why I always say "about" even though I have this number. I weighed in at the gym on a rickety old upright scale that seemed accurate-ish but with shoes/clothes and definitely after drinking and eating in the day. MFP says I would need to eat below 1200/day to lose 2lb/week. I do not think that happened. My logging is fairly consistent except at restaurant meals, and those days are over anyway. I'm also still obese, even if I was never 300lbs. I was "class 2 obese" according to the chart. Now I'm class 1.

    How tall are you, OP? And even if your loggin,g is tight and on-point, if you’re exercising and not eating back at least half of those calories, that could account for a higher than average deficit.

    5’2” and no exercise. I track my steps at work and log it as 2.0mph walking for 5min per 1000 steps (an estimate someone on the forums helped me with because my tracker doesn’t sync properly). I usually eat that back, if not the day of within the week.

    Maybe this is my body's way of telling me that this is the weight I should maintain. Even though the number on the scale has been lower and that made me feel happier. I know the scale should not rule! Now to add back carbs without gaining what I've lost. This seems to be the problem. And that is even with adding in good carbs: avacados, handful of almonds, on a rare occassion, sweet potato. I am trying to stay gluten free due to hashimoto. Would love your thoughts......

    If you have an illness that requires dietary restrictions then I really think working with your doctor and a registered dietitian would be the best way. That might help address energy issues too.

    Kiela, that is a great idea. Just went to a session yesterday from our United Healthcare rep. They have free consultations with a dietitian as part of the plan. I think I'll log on with them to get an answer. I've been told to also follow the DASH diet, but am hesitant bc it adds in fruit carbs and I will gain. I'll let you know how it goes
  • emmamcgarity
    emmamcgarity Posts: 1,594 Member
    DASH diet is amazing. My sister has had great results and is still losing weight while lowering her blood pressure.