Under 1000 calories
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onedownchic wrote: »Ok yes I’ll open my diary now. I’m new to MFP. let me check it now. Don’t get me wrong I do eat over 1000 calories at times. But some days after drinking gallon of water I’m not so hungry. Im willing to do all I can do to keep the scale moving down.
From what I see on your diary you eat carbs all day long -> high insulin all day long. Have you tried focusing the carbs to one meal a day to maintain a lower insulin level for the rest of the day? If you work out I would also eat a little bit more protein to gain muscles. You sometimes eat less than 35g of protein a day which is not a whole lot.
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lol. who is wooing this?
It seems most of the food in the diary is processed food. I barely see and greens in there (lettuce or any other kind of clean salad, kale, spinach, broccoli etc.). Macros are important but micronutrients (vitamins, healthy essential fats,...) are important too.
Greens will also help to keep you full.
September 28
More sugar than fat and protein combined. I would try to completely ditch the sugar if possible. Would still leave you with close to 100 g of carbs / day or more (less sugar means you can eat more of the other food).
September 6:
This looks a lot better. If you are trying to burn your own body fat carbs and sugar don't really help a lot. These are the ones that can be reduced. Protein and healthy fats are essential (meaning your body can't function properly without them).
From my own experience the body will keep telling me to eat food until it gets the daily protein it needs. So if you eat food that is low on protein, chances are you will not get satisfied as quickly as you'd like. 50-70g / day should be fine.31 -
lowcarbmale wrote: »lol. who is wooing this?
It seems most of the food in the diary is processed food. I barely see and greens in there (lettuce or any other kind of clean salad, kale, spinach, broccoli etc.). Macros are important but micronutrients (vitamins, healthy essential fats,...) are important too. Greens will also help to keep you full.
Regarding protein: From my own experience the body will keep telling you to eat food until it gets the daily protein it needs. So if you eat food that is low on protein, chances are you will not get satisfied as quickly as you'd like. 50-70g / day should be fine.
Because the amount of carbs you eat and when you eat them has no bearing on how much weight you will lose. Some also find carbs to be more filling than protein. However, eating more greens for better nutrition and increasing protein to 0.8 grams per pound of body weight would be highly advisable. This will help prevent muscle loss and the last thing you want is to lose a lot of muscle with the fat. You won't be happy with the end result.15 -
Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it20
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Couple of observations:
Lots and lots of 'cups' and 'pieces' and 'meals' you are absolutely underestimating your calorie intake with many of them. And you appear to be adjusting the amount logged to round numbers out. A couple of examples
- Glory's - Field Peas and Snaps, 0.17 cup - how did you measure 0.17 cups? That's an oddly specific measurement and appears to be so that the calories rounded to 40.
- Sticky Rice. 0.5 cup. Depending on how packed down the cup was, if it was cooked or uncooked this could be a huge difference. You've logged it as 85 calories. This could easily be closer to 350 calories
- Sweet potato pie. 74.38 grams. Again oddly specific and seems to be logged to round calories to 275 rather than reflect the actual weight/calories you've consumed.
- 2 Pancakes (4" dia) - you've logged as 147 calories. 2 pancakes can easily come to 350-400 calories
Time for a reality check.
- Start logging accurately. No more fudging the amounts to suit the calories you want to show. All your logging is perfectly round numbers if you're logging accurately this shouldn't be the case
- Start weighing everything. Even stuff that's packaged. Don't log '2 slices of bread'. Weigh them and log the actual weight.
- Start using grams. Oz can lead to inaccuracy the difference between 4oz and 4.5oz can be significant.
- Start logging EVERYTHING. On day you logged 'Salmon' did you eat that salmon raw and completely alone? As there's no cooking oils or condiments or anything. If you use it log it.
^ This is excellent advice. I couldn't have put it better myself! Start tracking everything perfectly and see how much of a difference that make to your calorie intake. Let us know how you get on
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Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it
I'm sorry, but helpful advice is not a popularity contest and health is not a game. Sometimes what someone needs to know most is not the easy way. There is a lot of "shooting the messenger" around here (obviously not by most but by some). Everybody who even dares to talk about sugar will get Wooed.
@onedownchic I mean you got 14 Woos on your first post even though you were looking for help.
I leave it with that. Let the Wooing begin...32 -
What’s Woo?0
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lowcarbmale wrote: »Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it
I'm sorry, but helpful advice is not a popularity contest and health is not a game. Sometimes what someone needs to know most is not the easy way. There is a lot of "shooting the messenger" around here (obviously not by most but by some). Everybody who even dares to talk about sugar will get Wooed.
@onedownchic I mean you got 14 Woos on your first post even though you were looking for help.
I leave it with that. Let the Wooing begin...
Mate, you're not really giving helpful advice though. What you're ignoring is that OP is clearly under logging. So obviously her fat and protein is going well below what she needs. Yes getting more vegetables would be beneficial however, of course you're going to get woo'ed when you start spouting nonscientific nonsense about insulin and carbs.
It's absolutely fine if you want to be low carb, but OP didn't say at any point that they were having a problem with carbs, or literally anything to do with carbs, and yet here you are suggesting that they should swap to a low carb diet with completely no reason for doing so. OP is looking to lose weight, she's not said anything about having any medical conditions that would benefit from a low carb diet or even struggling with feeling satisfied; she wants to lose weight, and doesn't understand how she's not able to when she's eating under 1000kcals a day (which we're all pretty sure isn't accurate)
Please go take your low carb, pseudoscience, preaching elsewhere. Because we actually want to help OP, not make unhelpful and quite frankly distracting diversions.24 -
Got it ok 👌🏾. Starting today I’m weighing grams and ounces for everything!!! I’m sooo appreciative!!! You all. ROCK!!! 🙌🏾😘❤️🙏🏾13
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lowcarbmale wrote: »Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it
I'm sorry, but helpful advice is not a popularity contest and health is not a game. Sometimes what someone needs to know most is not the easy way. There is a lot of "shooting the messenger" around here (obviously not by most but by some). Everybody who even dares to talk about sugar will get Wooed.
@onedownchic I mean you got 14 Woos on your first post even though you were looking for help.
I leave it with that. Let the Wooing begin...
Mate, you're not really giving helpful advice though. What you're ignoring is that OP is clearly under logging. So obviously her fat and protein is going well below what she needs. Yes getting more vegetables would be beneficial however, of course you're going to get woo'ed when you start spouting nonscientific nonsense about insulin and carbs.
It's absolutely fine if you want to be low carb, but OP didn't say at any point that they were having a problem with carbs, or literally anything to do with carbs, and yet here you are suggesting that they should swap to a low carb diet with completely no reason for doing so. OP is looking to lose weight, she's not said anything about having any medical conditions that would benefit from a low carb diet or even struggling with feeling satisfied; she wants to lose weight, and doesn't understand how she's not able to when she's eating under 1000kcals a day (which we're all pretty sure isn't accurate)
Please go take your low carb, pseudoscience, preaching elsewhere. Because we actually want to help OP, not make unhelpful and quite frankly distracting diversions.
Thanks Deviete. I appreciate all the advice. Good and bad. My journey is just beginning and today I’m going to start logging the right way!! Everyone is sooo helpful and patient. I’m grateful! 🙌🏾😁♥️
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Thanks Danp!!!!1
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I am 5"1, eating 1300 calories a day and consistently losing. I log everything with a food scale. If I eat out and go over, I log that too - to the best of my abilities! I think something in your calculations is way off!2
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Everyone is different for sure. I think the best advice is to diligently weigh your food. Every bite. When you really know how much you are eating you’ll be better prepared to have this conversation. Open your diary. Let someone here help you with the facts.3
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onedownchic wrote: »lowcarbmale wrote: »Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it
I'm sorry, but helpful advice is not a popularity contest and health is not a game. Sometimes what someone needs to know most is not the easy way. There is a lot of "shooting the messenger" around here (obviously not by most but by some). Everybody who even dares to talk about sugar will get Wooed.
@onedownchic I mean you got 14 Woos on your first post even though you were looking for help.
I leave it with that. Let the Wooing begin...
Mate, you're not really giving helpful advice though. What you're ignoring is that OP is clearly under logging. So obviously her fat and protein is going well below what she needs. Yes getting more vegetables would be beneficial however, of course you're going to get woo'ed when you start spouting nonscientific nonsense about insulin and carbs.
It's absolutely fine if you want to be low carb, but OP didn't say at any point that they were having a problem with carbs, or literally anything to do with carbs, and yet here you are suggesting that they should swap to a low carb diet with completely no reason for doing so. OP is looking to lose weight, she's not said anything about having any medical conditions that would benefit from a low carb diet or even struggling with feeling satisfied; she wants to lose weight, and doesn't understand how she's not able to when she's eating under 1000kcals a day (which we're all pretty sure isn't accurate)
Please go take your low carb, pseudoscience, preaching elsewhere. Because we actually want to help OP, not make unhelpful and quite frankly distracting diversions.
Thanks Deviete. I appreciate all the advice. Good and bad. My journey is just beginning and today I’m going to start logging the right way!! Everyone is sooo helpful and patient. I’m grateful! 🙌🏾😁♥️
We're all wishing you the best of luck! Do keep us informed on how it's going! 3 -
It is possible that your metabolism has slowed down. I used to lose weight at 1,360 calories, but now I just maintain at that level, or maybe lose so very little that I don't notice it anymore. On the other hand, even if I eat more than 1,360 calories, it takes a while before I gain weight. I'm 54 years old, 5'8" and weigh 179 lbs. I think, everyone's experience is different, and varies over time. Your body might be at a set point at which it is stubbornly refusing to budge. Or you might be using a lot of salt and that's making you retain water. Aside from following the advice of our friends on weighing the food and logging carefully, you should also consult your doctor. Good luck!32
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onedownchic wrote: »Thanks sooo much. I’m receptive. I truly am. Even my trainer at gym said to eat more... i just don’t lose. I’ll start again. Maybe I’m losing at 1400 or 1500 or 1700. Maybe my logging is off. I started counting gum crystal light everything now... just frustrated because as soon as I eat more the scale will move upward... sighs
Have you seen a doctor to get some bloodwork and ensure everything is ok?
Regarding your diary - beware using cups for solids (butter, cereal, fruit, veggies). weigh those as well. Beyond that seems the few days I looked at was pre-packaged food (which is fine).
You also give numbers that cover a range in your post from 800-1400 to. Put your starts in MFP (weight, goal, height, loss rate) and trust the system. Eat what it says. Do this for 3 weeks and see if you are loosing. While you do this, weigh everything. it is actually even easier, i put my bowl on scale, zero it out then pour in the cereal to his the proper portion by weight. Then zero it out and do the same for milk. And i've used fewer dishes. Ditto fruit and veg. Ensure you are using proper entires, they are user generated so can be false.
Ditto frozen fruit, usually the weight is frozen anyway so yes I put bowl on the scale, zero it out, then add fruit.
Stick to the minimum MFP recommends based on your stats for a few weeks before giving up.2 -
OP it looks like you’re on the right path and very receptive to some of the great advice you’ve gotten about focusing on logging accurately, with a food scale, to determine just how many calories you’re taking in and then determining how to get the results you desire from creating a calorie deficit.
One thing I wanted to circle back to from a few pages ago to make sure you understand properly - since you seemed to be a bit frustrated. You said because you’re obese you thought you needed less calories in order to be in a deficit. That’s simply not true. The amount of calories you burn in a day come from the amount of mass you take up (so your height and weight) and things like your basic bodily functions to keep you alive (all that determines your BMR) plus the amount of calories you burn from General daily activity like working, running errands, etc (that plus your BMR is called NEAT and that’s what MFP calculations are based on) and then adding in purposeful exercise gets you to TDEE.
So because you are currently obese, you have more mass, so your TDEE is actually higher than someone who is petite and at a healthy weight. That’s why when people were chiming in with their own stats they weren’t insulting you by saying “I’m 5’2 and 118 and I burn 2200 cals/day”. They were trying to show you that something was definitely off with your belief that you couldn’t possibly lose weight if you were eating above 1200 cals. The laws of physics just don’t support that and now that you’ve been so receptive and open minded to the advice, people have confirmed it’s quite possible that inaccurate logging means that what you thought was 1000 calories was much higher and that’s why you may not have been losing the way you want.
It’s important to understand this because as you do continue to lose weight, and I’m confident that you will now, your mass will decrease and your calorie burn will alsoz. As you get closer to goal, you may need to adjust calorie target downward, but also at a higher weight you can comfortably support a higher rate of loss as well. So you will start losing more slowly as you get closer to goal. None of this is something to be concerned or frustrated about - it’s all part of the process and actually reflects a healthy approach to weight management.
Hope that helps
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Onedownchic, do I get this write, that you are actually eating the calories burned by exercising and the total accumulated is actually 1000? that mean that you are actually eating 1,700 to 1,900 calories but you "burn" 700 or 900? I think this is the issue actually, the logging of the exercise. I don't think that you actually burn 900 calories so to be able to eat another 900 calories. For me it's been always a big question mark the fact that I "burn by exercising" let's say 300 calories and eat 300 calories than it will be even.
I would suggest you eat back only half of what MFP tells you that you are allowed by exercising.
Because if that day when you said you burned 900 calories you ate let's sau 1000 (or more if not logged in perfectly) and then you added the 900 calories, you actually ate well more than 2000. My 2 cents.4 -
onedownchic wrote: »Everyone replying is not obese or if they have been not mentioning it. My weight and deficit will not be like yours. Does anyone get this? In order for me to lose I have to restrict calories. I have to burn more than I eat.
My highest weight was 220lbs. I have lost 70 pounds and at no point in my weight loss have I ever eaten anywhere close to 1000 calories.2 -
Other potential logging issues (and we all make them, i'm still making errors years into this, and keep working to tweak everything as I near maintenance but i've lost 100lbs twice, and more recently 35lbs using MFP)
you have 4oz salmon at 100 calories. This is an error I made for years, but it's likely an incorrect entry. Salmon is higher cal than that. There are many BAD entires in MFP.
another entry is "Pancakes - Plain, 2 pancake (4" dia)" - did you buy these or make these? if you made them it's best to make your own recipe in the recipe building VS use a random entry because everyone can make them slightly differently.
Weight EVERYTHING. no cups or tablespoons (or as few as possible).
Do you use cooking oils or spays? Butter on your toast? (weigh the butter and the oil AND the avocado! small errors in these add up fast)
"Cantalope Chunk - Cantalope Chunk, 24 Chunks" - i'd be wary of entries like this because...i mean how big are the chunks? that can really make a huge difference. Use a scale, find entries by weight.
"Egg - 1 Large Egg-scambled, 1 large" - did you not use any milk to scramble? or one egg scrambled with nothing added? did you cook it in a skillet? no oil/spray?
You generally don't seem to be eating very much at all if you are logging EVERYTHING. Thus my concern about possible health issue.7 -
onedownchic wrote: »Will do. I’m just saying maybe I’m different or metabolism is shot. When I eat 2000 calories or more I gain! I need a deficit. Does anybody understand. Plus I’m obese I’m not fit with a high metabolism. If I’m wrong then why is the scale moving down instead of staying the same? I’m here to lose not gain. Sorry just frustrated with the advice. ❤️Tasha
actually the larger yo uare, the more calories your body burns while resting - so you could eat more9 -
onedownchic wrote: »lowcarbmale wrote: »Sorry Onedownchick. I said if you opened your diary you'd get good advice from knowledgeable people but you'll also get completely rubbish advice as well. But don't worry the it's easy to tell them apart. The solid information will come from long term posted and will garner lots of likes and insightful flags, the misinformation will get Woo'd heavily so you'll know to ignore it
I'm sorry, but helpful advice is not a popularity contest and health is not a game. Sometimes what someone needs to know most is not the easy way. There is a lot of "shooting the messenger" around here (obviously not by most but by some). Everybody who even dares to talk about sugar will get Wooed.
@onedownchic I mean you got 14 Woos on your first post even though you were looking for help.
I leave it with that. Let the Wooing begin...
Mate, you're not really giving helpful advice though. What you're ignoring is that OP is clearly under logging. So obviously her fat and protein is going well below what she needs. Yes getting more vegetables would be beneficial however, of course you're going to get woo'ed when you start spouting nonscientific nonsense about insulin and carbs.
It's absolutely fine if you want to be low carb, but OP didn't say at any point that they were having a problem with carbs, or literally anything to do with carbs, and yet here you are suggesting that they should swap to a low carb diet with completely no reason for doing so. OP is looking to lose weight, she's not said anything about having any medical conditions that would benefit from a low carb diet or even struggling with feeling satisfied; she wants to lose weight, and doesn't understand how she's not able to when she's eating under 1000kcals a day (which we're all pretty sure isn't accurate)
Please go take your low carb, pseudoscience, preaching elsewhere. Because we actually want to help OP, not make unhelpful and quite frankly distracting diversions.
Thanks Deviete. I appreciate all the advice. Good and bad. My journey is just beginning and today I’m going to start logging the right way!! Everyone is sooo helpful and patient. I’m grateful! 🙌🏾😁♥️
OP, I was a little worried about you in the middle of the thread there but I'm so happy you are more positive and taking all this info on board
Please be patient, I know it's hard, but there's a lot to learn! Hang in there and best of luck 11 -
Thank you. Yes that’s my goal to build my metabolism!! A nutritionist who is also a cross fitter said it took her 20 years to be able to eat 3000 calories and maintain!!! So I know it’s a long haul. I appreciate you. My metabolism sucks. It’s improving!! Today I start with the weighing in grams3
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onedownchic wrote: »Thank you. Yes that’s my goal to build my metabolism!! A nutritionist who is also a cross fitter said it took her 20 years to be able to eat 3000 calories and maintain!!! So I know it’s a long haul. I appreciate you. My metabolism sucks. It’s improving!! Today I start with the weighing in grams
Stop focusing on metabolism. No one maintains on 3000 because they built up their metabolism. They increased their activity until their TDEE equaled 3000 calories per day. Metabolic variations from person to person are by and large inconsequential.
That said, I'm glad you've taken some of the advice here to heart and are focusing on more accurate logging. That's great to see!16 -
WOW, great video and great info!!!!1
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onedownchic wrote: »Thank you. Yes that’s my goal to build my metabolism!! A nutritionist who is also a cross fitter said it took her 20 years to be able to eat 3000 calories and maintain!!! So I know it’s a long haul. I appreciate you. My metabolism sucks. It’s improving!! Today I start with the weighing in grams
Stop focusing on metabolism. No one maintains on 3000 because they built up their metabolism. They increased their activity until their TDEE equaled 3000 calories per day. Metabolic variations from person to person are by and large inconsequential.
That said, I'm glad you've taken some of the advice here to heart and are focusing on more accurate logging. That's great to see!
This. Focus on logging, not this mythical "build up the metabolism" thing.
Is metabolic adaptation a thing? Yup. Is it a major thing? Not really -- only about 5-10 percent at the extremes, which is in the ballpark of 70-150ish calories a day.
Real life case study: I'm hypothyroid, and type 1 diabetic -- the two conditions that people like to use to justify sluggish metabolism and as an excuse to not lose weight.
The reality is that I've had my metabolism lab-tested at the peak of things being absolute rubbish with my health, and my metabolism was actually significantly higher -- about 20 percent -- than expected based on the MFP calculators, and my Apple Watch. And even that only amounted to about 250 extra calories a day.8 -
onedownchic wrote: »Thank you. Yes that’s my goal to build my metabolism!! A nutritionist who is also a cross fitter said it took her 20 years to be able to eat 3000 calories and maintain!!! So I know it’s a long haul. I appreciate you. My metabolism sucks. It’s improving!! Today I start with the weighing in grams
Just keep in mind that not everyone is going to be able to eat even remotely close to 3000 calories and maintain, no matter what their level of fitness is. I can’t do that even on half marathon days. As you lose weight, your body needs fewer calories just to carry out basic functions. You can burn more through exercise or NEAT, and you can build muscle, but 3000 would be very high for most people to maintain on. It’s good to have goals, but they need to be realistically achievable to avoid disappointment.
Also, many (most?) of us here HAVE been obese. I was 215 pounds when I started here. My BMI was 42 (remember, I’m the under 5 foot tall one). That’s morbid obesity. I lost 100 pounds using MFP, which is why I’m now in my ideal BMI range. You’re getting advice from a lot of veteran MFP folks who know what they’re doing.9 -
onedownchic wrote: »You are way smaller than I am. My maintenance will not be the same I’m 100 lbs heavier.....
If you're obese, your metabolism will be faster than someone smaller. Most people commenting here have at one time been overweight or obese.6 -
onedownchic wrote: »What’s Woo?
@onedownchic - It stands for unscientific bro-science woo. Meaning that whatever the comment is, it isn't based in actual proven science, and that comment should probably be ignored.5 -
onedownchic wrote: »We are not the same. I’m looking for people with the same issue please members. Thanks. I’m 225 pounds currently losing by creating a deficit. I can’t eat 2000 3000 calories and lose weight!!! U can but I can’t. 😩🙄🤷🏽♀️
@onedownchic Hi Tasha...so I am 5'3 and when I started last year I was 228lbs. I was eating 1200kcal plus HALF of my calories burned. I use a Fitbit and the calories burned always looked extreme for me, so I would only eat 50% of them...very rarely 75%...but never the full100%. I was doing cardio/swimming and some weight training. I had weeks were I would gain and others when I would lose, but in the lapse of 10 months I went down to 197. I also have PCOS, which can make it harder to lose weight.
I just started doing the Keto diet. I know some people are against it, but so far, it hasn't been too bad for me. I started Sept 24th, upped my calories to 1400 and dont eat any exercise calories burned. I am down 10+lbs in about 5 weeks. I have dropped many inches as well. Do I lose a lot every week? NOPE!! The last 2 weigh-ins have been the same, it sucks, but I keep at it.
If you are eating the 1000kcal, plus the total amount of calories burned, you may still be at a deficit, but makes sure that at the end of the day you are eating AT LEAST 1200.
I didn't read ALL the replies, so a few questions in case I missed it...
How are you tracking your calories burned?
Do you weigh everything that you eat or do you eye-ball it?
What are you doing to help your metabolism...are you eating a couple of small meals or just 1 or 2 bigger meals?
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