What I Hate About Watching My Weight/New Lifestyle/Dieting, etc. (A Place to Vent)
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tbright1965 wrote: »I agree with you that we should not restrict people from being themselves as long as it does not result in negative behavior directed towards others. But I think we are in disagreement about what men are being restricted from.
I don't think we restrict men from showing aggression. I think it is the opposite. I think from a young age, we teach boys that being aggressive is what "it means to be a man". Instead we try to repress vulnerability, sadness, and emotional connection. That is the behavior we try to try to repress through "socialization". We tell boys that only girls talk about their feelings, and "boys don't cry". That leads to us teaching men that bad behavior towards women is okay because they don't need to worry about what others are feeling and that real men objectify women.
I think most men are emotional creatures just like women are, they want to be vulnerable, and form complex, emotional relationships with others, both in friendship and romantically, but many are unable to do that because they have repressed those feelings since childhood.
Do they repress it or just express things differently.
If you've ever read a relationship book, or picked up your mom/sister/wife/girlfriend's coffee table reading, or watch an Oprah style show, you see where the message is men need to change how they approach relationships. They are too angry, or too repressed, or too shallow, or too carnal, or....
I recall an incident about 20+ years ago in the car with my now ex-wife. Probably should have been a red flag now that I look back, but stay with me.
She was reading a Cosmo article and this woman asked why her man didn't seem like he wanted to be around her. The whole list of reasons was things he might be doing wrong. I.E. he might be cheating, he might be stressed at work, he might not really love you....
Nothing suggesting she look at her behavior or anything she may have done. I pointed this out to her and you would think I called her baby ugly. It was inconceivable to her that a woman might have done something wrong in a relationship.
I guess I shouldn't have been shocked that not only did she have an affair when we were married, but somehow it was my fault she chose to have an affair instead of just using her words and having an adult conversation about what she wanted from our relationship that she wasn't getting.
So my point is, there are plenty of people out there, many of them writing books, magazine articles, hosting TV shows, and now on the Interwebs who have no problem suggesting that men need to change their behavior.
Ideas like men are having more affairs than women.
Really? Are they having them with other men? Probably not, meaning the representation of the sexes in affairs is pretty much equal.
But somehow, it's men who have to change their behavior and women are merely victims of that behavior.
Sorry, not buying it.
I'm certainly not a Red-Pill kind of guy. But seeing what passes for professional counsel, I can understand why men buy into it.
There's an awful lot of gendered assumptions in here. I get that you seem to be from a different generation than me so that these things are more internalized in you than they are in me.
But my wife doesn't have coffee table reading or watch Oprah style shows. She did have a countdown clock for when the last Avengers movie came out tho.
You haven't gotten much relationship advice lately if you think it's only all about how "men need to change". I've never seen any relationship advice like that.
That you brought up Red Pill at all is disturbing and that's a rabbit whole I don't want to with you, certainly not on this thread that has been hijacked enough. But this idea that men or oppressed or mistreated and they need to lash out in misogynistic and violent ways in bonkers and anyone who feels this way needs to look at themselves as an individual and fix themselves.
Because overall we still live in a society that is favorable to us and all one has to do to be respected and live well with others is to not be a jerk. It's really not that hard.
Anyways that is all for me (well, I'll try) on this topic, so we can get back to talking about diets and working out.
Odd, so what you are saying is that it is disturbing that I even know about "The Red Pill." I find that is odd.
No one said men need to lash out. So if this is a feeble attempt to suggest I've said that, you are creating a straw man that has no place here. I've simply said that the notion that men are not told to do things, but women are is not true. From that, if anything, you appear to have totally distorted what I'm saying.
Perhaps I'm not clear. But there seem to be subtle messages that you would rather simply marginalize my points instead of trying to understand the reality of what I write.
Perhaps the fact that I may be from a prior generation means I have a bit more life experience. It certainly doesn't mean I'm too old, or too anachronistic to keep up with the modern kids and their modern ways. It seems that's your tacit assertion here.
People need to own their behavior, period, full stop. We can understand the motivations behind those behaviors, be they unfaithful spouses, men who turn their back on 21st Century dating and/or marriage or extremists on the Left and the Right of the political spectrum. Also, not forgetting women who don't wish to be told to smile, or don't wish to face sexual harassment at work, and so on.
Perhaps the way we get to understanding one another is not by marginalizing someone because what they say doesn't fit with our view of how things work, and instead we walk a mile in their shoes, so we can understand how they've come to their views.
I can empathize with the Red Pill guy as much as I can empathize with the woman being told to smile without being either one of them.
I can understand how someone is motivated to fly a jumbo jet into an office building without becoming that person.
I guess it has been about 14 years since I cracked open a relationship book in earnest. The books then were by authors such as Ken Nair "Understand the Mind of a Woman" who, if I were to boil it down, suggest that if a man's wife were engaged in some misconduct such as an affair, it must have been something that her husband did that drove her to an affair.
Frankly, a rather offensive view all around. First, she has no agency at all. Second, only he is held responsible for the state of the relationship.
Other authors, such as Willard Harley who wrote "His Needs, Her Needs..." take a more balanced approach in that both men and women have emotional needs and relationships work best when they work together and seek to meet one another's emotional needs, avoiding "Love Busting" behaviors that destroy romantic love.
But yes, I've not really spent much time on that shelf in my bookcase since 2004.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
:bigsmile:
And she's not even sorry about it! Share the wealth, at least
I know! I comment on that all the time, but she insists on being a selfish butt-hoarder. #flatbuttsmattertoo
I snorted. Out loud. At work. :laugh:
Extra points if you were drinking coffee at the time
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quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
:bigsmile:
And she's not even sorry about it! Share the wealth, at least
I know! I comment on that all the time, but she insists on being a selfish butt-hoarder. #flatbuttsmattertoo
I snorted. Out loud. At work. :laugh:
Extra points if you were drinking coffee at the time
Nope. Darn it.
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Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »I resent the vegetables.
They are demanding little drama queens. They protest canning by turning into metallically-tinged slime, and freezing by turning into pale mush. No, they say, if you want us tasty, we must be fresh.
"Fresh" means they must be fetched home from the store, properly stored in the fridge, washed, chopped - half the time they want peeling, too - cooked, and then cleaned up after. And, if I really want five-a-day; as soon as the next mealtime comes around, I gotta do it again.
A special diva mention goes to spinach and other leafy greens which, upon being heaped-to-overflowing in my 12-inch skillet, sautee down to one - count it, one - single serving. What would I have to use to cook three servings at once - a snow saucer?
Not to mention, that if you don't eat fresh vegetables within, oh, I don't know, 2-3 days, you're left with a slimy resemblance of what used to be baby spinach. Or was that a bell pepper?
I don't like my "healthy food" being so demanding!
Fruits are even worse. Bananas, Avocados, Mangos, etc. They are all "unripe" until they are ripe for a whole 10 minutes and then they are spoiled.
Freakin' bananas!
Even worse, I only like bananas when they're slightly green. Once the first brown spot appears I'm done with them!
You can buy a few extra days for avocados in the fridge, though.
I definitely like my bananas on the underripe side too. It's hard to find them in the store like that too. They are either already brown or like pure green.
You can buy some time with avocados in the fridge, but they are never quite as tasty as when cut fresh.
Very true. It's always a great day when you find that perfectly ripe avocado at the grocery store and plan your entire dinner menu around it
They are native here, and the big, juicy ones (not the small Hass ones), and sometimes at the store I shop they have them already pre-sliced in half that they are amazing to just pick up and bring home and eat. I will eat them with anything. Doesn't matter what.
Sounds amazing! I should probably never try those; I'd be ruined for the ones at home and have to move :laugh:5 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
Sometimes you can do both. Tonight is sparring at my gym, so I will have the enjoyment of being able to land a few punches on my classmates, while they will have the enjoyment of likely landing many more on me. 8 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!4 -
tbright1965 wrote: »If you've ever read a relationship book, or picked up your mom/sister/wife/girlfriend's coffee table reading, or watch an Oprah style show, you see where the message is men need to change how they approach relationships. They are too angry, or too repressed, or too shallow, or too carnal, or....
See, that's the thing. @tbright1965 , you have to go out of your way, to take some action that you could choose not to take (reading, watching, etc.), to be bombarded with the messages you're objecting to.But...random strangers are not coming up to you in the street and saying "Don't be so shallow!". You're talking about societal pressures and expectations, which exist for both men and women, but that's not the same thing as being called out on the street by someone who expects you to be flattered enough to smile at them because they took the trouble to notice you.
Those messages aren't just coming at you from random directions while you're minding your own business and trying to go about your day.12 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
I train Krav as well!2 -
Although -tbright1965 wrote: »If you've ever read a relationship book, or picked up your mom/sister/wife/girlfriend's coffee table reading, or watch an Oprah style show, you see where the message is men need to change how they approach relationships.
You do have me looking askance at my coffee table reading. I will be watching for those troublesome messages to men in John Steinbeck's "The Log from The Sea of Cortez," the book on the historic architecture & defenses of Scottish castles, and my Voter's Pamphlet.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
Is Krav like the anti-Karate? 2 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
Is Krav like the anti-Karate?
Ha. More or less. Not trying to hate on any other style of martial arts, but Krav Maga was developed originally for the Israeli army. It's meant for real life, practical, life or death self defense situations. There are no rules, no point scoring and no ring. It's all about doing whatever it takes to survive. If that means putting a thumb in someone's eye or hitting them over the head with a fire extinguisher, then that's all good.5 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
Is Krav like the anti-Karate?
Ha. More or less. Not trying to hate on any other style of martial arts, but Krav Maga was developed originally for the Israeli army. It's meant for real life, practical, life or death self defense situations. There are no rules, no point scoring and no ring. It's all about doing whatever it takes to survive. If that means putting a thumb in someone's eye or hitting them over the head with a fire extinguisher, then that's all good.
Ah, like street-fighting - whatever it takes to win. An excellent survival skill.2 -
-Having to plan ahead of time whenever you decide to go out to a restaurant
-Avoiding certain restaurants because none of their options can fit into your daily calorie limit
-Having to limit yourself to one meal for the day when eating out
-No more boredom snacking allowed (this used to be my go to when bored, its no wonder I ballooned up)
-Avoiding eating at other peoples places because you cannot track it
-Thinking way too often about food and what your next meal will be
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
Is Krav like the anti-Karate?
Ha. More or less. Not trying to hate on any other style of martial arts, but Krav Maga was developed originally for the Israeli army. It's meant for real life, practical, life or death self defense situations. There are no rules, no point scoring and no ring. It's all about doing whatever it takes to survive. If that means putting a thumb in someone's eye or hitting them over the head with a fire extinguisher, then that's all good.
Ah, like street-fighting - whatever it takes to win. An excellent survival skill.
Essentially. The goal is to protect yourself where as other martial arts have an element of art. Obviously there are skills involved that you needed to learn so you can defend yourself smartly, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter how pretty it was, just that you were able to get to finish the fight (through injury or distance). Just to have you an idea, a groin kick is called a krav handshake and the bear hugs we were working on were from behind so we could work on (if we couldn't base out, which is widening your stance and lowering your center of gravity, so that we didn't get picked up) kicking a dude in the nuts while in the air.5 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »tbright1965 wrote: »If you've ever read a relationship book, or picked up your mom/sister/wife/girlfriend's coffee table reading, or watch an Oprah style show, you see where the message is men need to change how they approach relationships. They are too angry, or too repressed, or too shallow, or too carnal, or....
See, that's the thing. @tbright1965 , you have to go out of your way, to take some action that you could choose not to take (reading, watching, etc.), to be bombarded with the messages you're objecting to.But...random strangers are not coming up to you in the street and saying "Don't be so shallow!". You're talking about societal pressures and expectations, which exist for both men and women, but that's not the same thing as being called out on the street by someone who expects you to be flattered enough to smile at them because they took the trouble to notice you.
Those messages aren't just coming at you from random directions while you're minding your own business and trying to go about your day.
Not really. Heck the same format even shows up here.
There are those who try to peddle the "you are not responsible for whatever your circumstance might be, blame _______"
Or, if only the food industry would change their ways, then so many people wouldn't be fat.
The formula is blame a third party for your circumstance. We even saw it here, just a few posts ago, "Carbs are the debil..."
It's the same format. Advice giver blames someone else, and the reader is off the hook.
Just like the Cosmo article my ex-wife was reading. Blame the guy who wasn't writing in.
Just like the Red Pill guys do, blame the women who just don't get you. Or turn the tables and use them and lose them.
Frankly, that format is well worn. It's well used.
Can't avoid it with elections coming up. And I won't even go into those details. Just mentioning election ads should be sufficient to give most a reminder of that format.
XYZ happened to you while candidate A was in office. You need to vote for candidate B, he/she will protect you from XYZ.
To bring it back to the topic, what I cannot stand is people not owning it.
When people ask me how I lost 50# I said by paying attention to what the Fork I was eating. No one to blame buy myself. I bought the little chocolate donuts and chocolate milk. It didn't throw itself in my shopping cart or down my throat. I had myself convinced I could out-exercise a bad diet.
Nope!
So when I tell people, or show them logging my meals, they are like no really, what is your secret? Or they believe they have bad genetics and could never do what I am doing.
As long as people convince themselves or allow themselves to be convinced by others that the solution is beyond their control, they are ripe for the picking by those willing to sell them an ear tickling solution.
That's what I hate about it, people denying or giving up the most effective tool in their arsenal, their power to decide and advocate for themselves.8 -
1. Having no one notice my progress. Literally just my partner.
2. Feeling like I can't enjoy seasonal favorites without cutting wayyy way back. Seriously, who even knows what a serving size of homemade pumpkin pie is??
3. Not having money to purchase new clothes so I just have to deal with my pants being baggy.11 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Snappy rejoinder you'd probably never actually be able to use:I have a few.
1. When people say, "But carbs are the debil"! Um, not they're not and unless you want punched, stop saying that!
2. When people constantly comment on what I'm eating/not eating. MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS!
3. When people insist food is "good or bad". Food is inanimate. It's neither good or bad.
4. When people say, "Oh you're being good today, huh?" when I pass up some food or treat. *insert eyeroll emoji
5. Knowing how many calories/fat/sodium is in my favorite foods. I'm looking right at you, Chick-fil-A waffle fries and nuggets!
6. That delicious sauces, gravies, dressings have so many stinking calories! LET ME LIVE MY LIFE!
7. That genetics play such a big. Every woman in my family has what I refer to as Pancake Butt. I have to work WAY harder than say, @quiksylver296 to get that #squatbooty and keep it from deflating. It's just not fair!
8. Oh, and that no matter how much weight I lose, muscle mass I gain, I STILL have a double chin.
Okay, that was more than a few, but those are the ones that really grind my gears!
"Not really, but yesterday was my day for eating treats. Today's my day to go around punching people."
THAT, I like!
It reminds me of this...
I work out so I CAN punch people. In fact, last night I punched a guy in the face. It was an accident, but it was still great. Especially since we were working on bear hugs and I did not get picked up on that one. Successful defense!! Haha. Krav maga is awesome. The first test is based highly on how aggressive you are. If y'all want an excuse to punch things, kick things, and be aggressive while learning to defend yourself, this is the sport for you!
Is Krav like the anti-Karate?
Ha. More or less. Not trying to hate on any other style of martial arts, but Krav Maga was developed originally for the Israeli army. It's meant for real life, practical, life or death self defense situations. There are no rules, no point scoring and no ring. It's all about doing whatever it takes to survive. If that means putting a thumb in someone's eye or hitting them over the head with a fire extinguisher, then that's all good.
Ah, like street-fighting - whatever it takes to win. An excellent survival skill.
Essentially. The goal is to protect yourself where as other martial arts have an element of art. Obviously there are skills involved that you needed to learn so you can defend yourself smartly, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter how pretty it was, just that you were able to get to finish the fight (through injury or distance). Just to have you an idea, a groin kick is called a krav handshake and the bear hugs we were working on were from behind so we could work on (if we couldn't base out, which is widening your stance and lowering your center of gravity, so that we didn't get picked up) kicking a dude in the nuts while in the air.
When my wife first asked me what we did at class, I described it as 30 minutes of cardio and an hour of groin strikes.9 -
etherealanwar wrote: »-Having to plan ahead of time whenever you decide to go out to a restaurant
-Avoiding certain restaurants because none of their options can fit into your daily calorie limit
-Having to limit yourself to one meal for the day when eating out
-No more boredom snacking allowed (this used to be my go to when bored, its no wonder I ballooned up)
-Avoiding eating at other peoples places because you cannot track it
-Thinking way too often about food and what your next meal will be
Fours years later and my whole life revolves around eating and thinking about when I'm going to be able to eat again.13
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