1200 Calorie Diet???? Seriously???
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JayFromThatOnePlace wrote: »I'm fine at 1200 calories, I don't feel hungry unless I stay up late. Not everyone is the same and that's ok.
1200 calories will be a deficent for most people but it's not starving.
Yet.10 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »Yet.
Eventually true but Id be good for it for at least 7 months.16 -
What I don't understand is why many people here are judgmental and patronizing. There is a way to advice ppl if you think their diet is not right, if they ask for your opinion. This is quite common in FP unfortunately. Ppl are very eager to give their patronizing and know-it-all replies.
Every person is different. Size and gender and other consideration like life philosophy. I'm personally a non-eater. I eat good quality food but I can easily get full in less than 1200 kcal and I don't feel like eating more most days. I know many yogis and ppl in the meditation community that eat very little and still very healthy mentally and physically. Just be supportive and articulate your replies ppl!
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Not sure which replies you think are judgemental and patronising - but Being supportive doesnt mean enabling people on calorie levels which are clearly too low for them.16
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All this thread proves is that while science has a certain influence, it all comes down to what works for the individual being and gets them the results they want.
The same thing, CICO, will work for everyone. People think it’s something else when variables change that aren’t taken into account and therefore something else is given credit for the weight loss, such as a way of eating, meal timing, or type/timing/duration of exercise.8 -
Age also has to do with what your daily calorie intake is. At 25 I could eat 300 calories more than I do at 60. My maintence is 1330 now. So if I want to lose weight it’s a lot less calories.0
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That is true amberellen - and 1200 calories is suitable for some people. You are a 60 year old woman - possibly you are one of such people.
The person I replied to was a young man - and presumably bigger taller than you as well as younger and male.
clearly your calorie needs will be quite different.6 -
JayFromThatOnePlace wrote: »I'm fine at 1200 calories, I don't feel hungry unless I stay up late. Not everyone is the same and that's ok.
1200 calories will be a deficent for most people but it's not starving.
So you log everything - food, beverages, condiments, cooking oils, cheat meals, snacks - everything, every day? Do you use a food scale? How often have you been doing this?
To be completely blunt, since I'm assuming from your avi that you are an adult man, if you have been doing this for more than a week or two, there are 4 possibilities:- You are under 5' and are very slim and sedentary.
- You are losing weight aggressively fast and are losing a scary amount of precious muscle mass.
- You have a serious undiagnosed medical condition that requires treatment ASAP.
- You are not logging accurately and are actually eating more calories than you think.
1200 calories is not a lot of food in general, and certainly not enough for a healthy full grown man.15 -
Lolinloggen wrote: »nomeejerome wrote: »1. You do not need to "eat clean." (you can eat a variety of foods, lose weight, and meet nutritional needs)
2. Drink the lemon water if you like the taste, but it will do nothing for weight loss.
3. Meal timing is personal preference.
4. You can eat lunch meat and still lose weight. (and be healthy)
5. You do not have to limit condiments. (if it fits into your day, go for it.)
6. You do not have to limit dairy. (unless you have a medical reason)
7. You do not have to limit fruit. (fruit has numerous nutritional benefits)
8. The only reason somebody should be restricting sugar is because of a medical reason. (sugar is carb, so track that.)
Totally agree. Plus don't forget we are all different heights.
I was on a 1200-1300 calorie diet for a long time But then again at just 1.59m and 50 years of age my BMR is only 1430 calories so for me at my height it is perfectly reasonable to be at that rate when trying to lose the weight.
Except BMR is the amount of calories you need just to sustain bodily functions. To lose weight you need to take a deficit from your TDEE which would include day to day activity and any purposeful exercise as well. So it’s likely that 1200 is not an appropriate level for you... just as it’s not necessary for many/most people to go that low in order to lose.9 -
JayFromThatOnePlace wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »Yet.
Eventually true but Id be good for it for at least 7 months.
And in the mean time you are damaging your organs, sacrificing lean body mass, causing fatigue, low testosterone, etc.
So why would you think going that low is advisable?10 -
I just realize that the OP started this discussion in 2013.... 5 years ago. I think he’s long gone!
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I say this a lot, but it seems to bear repeating a lot.
I lose weight on 1200 plus exercise calories if I weigh every single bite meticulously and log every single calorie. I do not lose weight if I eat very much more than that. I am also a woman under 5 feet tall with a sedentary job who is currently in the middle of the optimal BMI range for my height. (For those who are curious, no, I am not currently trying to lose more weight.)
If even one of those variables is different for you than it is for me--if you are taller, have a more active job, weigh more, or have a different biological sex--then you can likely lose while eating more than 1200 calories, and 1200 may be dangerously low for you. If you are male, you should not be eating less than 1500.
If you do not sound very much like me and you believe that you must eat 1200 calories to lose weight, then take a look at your logging. You may be either eating more than you think and/or not burning as many exercise calories as you think.10 -
JayFromThatOnePlace wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »Yet.
Eventually true but Id be good for it for at least 7 months.
what makes you think youd be good for at least 7 months? just remember many toddlers eat more than 1200 calories. you are sacrificing a lot of things eating too little. Im a female and eat way more that 1200 and did do to lose weight. even when I was sedentary. if I had to eat 1200 calories I would be sick and lethargic. even when sick I eat more than 1200 calories. a day here and there of 1200 may be fine but not everyday for months on end.6 -
LOL Thank you random person on the internet who miraculously knows how everyone should eat. Just because for you something is unhealthy does not automatically apply to all others. What about the petite gals who are like 5 feet born with a slow metabolism? 1200 may very well work for them, maybe less if their doctor is good with it. Some people do intermittent fasting, so yeah "starving" themselves. But there's a whole science behind that. Become someone respected and respectful in the community then come back with your vast and incredible knowledge of all things. /sarcasm9
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He wrote that post over five years ago, so I doubt he’ll reply, lol.tealfoxonfire wrote: »LOL Thank you random person on the internet who miraculously knows how everyone should eat. Just because for you something is unhealthy does not automatically apply to all others. What about the petite gals who are like 5 feet born with a slow metabolism? 1200 may very well work for them, maybe less if their doctor is good with it. Some people do intermittent fasting, so yeah "starving" themselves. But there's a whole science behind that. Become someone respected and respectful in the community then come back with your vast and incredible knowledge of all things. /sarcasm
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tealfoxonfire wrote: »LOL Thank you random person on the internet who miraculously knows how everyone should eat. Just because for you something is unhealthy does not automatically apply to all others. What about the petite gals who are like 5 feet born with a slow metabolism? 1200 may very well work for them, maybe less if their doctor is good with it. Some people do intermittent fasting, so yeah "starving" themselves. But there's a whole science behind that. Become someone respected and respectful in the community then come back with your vast and incredible knowledge of all things. /sarcasm
first of all we arent talking about petite girls,secondly intermittent fasting is NOT starving yourself. its eating your calories in a window of time. I have done IF the last 3 decades and Im eating 1900 calories before exercise and am maintaining my weight and building some muscle so are you going to tell me IM starving myself? because I can assure you Im not. 1200 is too low for any male.and since men have more muscle and lean mass than women thats why the minimum for them is 1500 calories and thats for a very short,sedentary,elderly man or a combo of those things. and metabolism are not either fast or slow. your basal metabolic rate may be less than someone else but it doesnt mean its slow.a person who is obese/overweight will have a faster metabolism than a smaller person.
an any dr that recommends a person especially a male to eat 1200 calories ,hopefully that person is under the drs strict care and close supervision and Im not talking about those who are or who have had weight loss surgery either. theres a reason why most people should not eat under a certain amount of calories,and the more active a person the more calories their body needs.5 -
Meh I’m 5’9 and I lose nicely on about 1350. Might have a lot to do with my thyroid (which is treated but still low). When I eat much more I maintain or start to slowly gain. I’ve never been overweight but when I start to gain I go back to weighing and measuring and counting calories and 1350 seems to fit me just fine despite not being short, petite, or old. Just seems to be my magic number.1
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amberellen12 wrote: »I just realize that the OP started this discussion in 2013.... 5 years ago. I think he’s long gone!
Yes we know.
Posts are now responding to other posts made in last few days.2 -
The woo in this thread has given me a head ache
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I started at 360 pounds and I eat about 1200 calories a day. I'm actually pretty happy with it. I don't feel hungry, tired, deprived, nothing. Don't really see why I should force myself to eat more when I feel fine. I've lost 20 pounds so far. I haven't started working out however and I know that will make me feel hungrier in which case I'll just eat more lol. No biggie.11
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