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What commonly given MFP Forum advice do you personally disagree with?
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bobsanders1 wrote: »Looks like i offended the food scale police. Funny how the thread asks what you disagree with PERSONALLY. lol
I doubt anyone was actually offended.....in the debate sub-forum I usually expect someone to have an opinion on something I type.14 -
a calorie is a calorie is a calorie - and they all have the same value.21
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bobsanders1 wrote: »Looks like i offended the food scale police. Funny how the thread asks what you disagree with PERSONALLY. lol
So because most people personally disagree with you, you feel the need to insult them? No, not everybody needs a food scale, but as others have pointed out, it can be a valuable tool, and you completely ignore the context of which the advice is given. If everyone was starting from the same point, had the same stats, and had the same goals, then making generalizations might be ok, but seeing that that isn't the case, I do believe that advising people who are having trouble losing to invest in a food scale is good advice. Because you personally haven't experienced any issues with weight loss up to this point doesn't mean you never will. I didn't experience issues losing weight, but once I got to goal and decided to bulk, and then recomp, a food scale became a necessity because I needed to be as close to exact as possible. Your refusal to acknowledge the points made by others makes you appear to believe that the way you do things should work for everyone which is clearly false. People that post on here with a superiority complex like that are what I find irritating because it can easily be discouraging to those who do struggle.15 -
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Advice I get frustrated with, although I don't think it's the majority of MFP speaking, is that which confuses "a calorie" -- which is a unit of measurement and doesn't have other properties like nutritional content -- and "a food" which of course does.
A calorie=a calorie just like an acre=an acre.
But rather obviously -- and I am continually mystified when people cannot grasp this or insist upon misrepresenting what is being said -- foods are not all identical, and have many different properties. Just as an acre in one location can be very different in all properties BUT SIZE than other acres.
I'd be open to engaging in a friendly discussion of this with anyone who is genuinely confused as to the distinction I am making, but from past experience people who confuse the two are never actually interested in discussing it or understanding, but prefer to assert, incorrectly, that others are saying foods are all identical in all respects.
Am I being too pessimistic?23 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
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I'll take ice cream.
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But that's so silly.
Bowl of carrots 100g = 40 calories
Same 100g of ice cream = 245 calories
*edited for actual 100g comp12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
As for carrots or ice cream...
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Carrot cake and a dollop of ice cream, best of both worlds.24
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quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.4 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description...
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quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description... )
I almost agree.
Americone Dream is a close #20 -
bobsanders1 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
As for carrots or ice cream...
More like an everyone must comply, hold hands and sing Kumbya together forum.
Not sure why you would think that. Everyone is freely sharing their opinions back and forth. And sometimes actual #science and #facts are involved, too.
And as someone who lettered in Debate in high school (yes, really), I happen to know how debates are won.
(Hint: proven science, facts, and data.) 14 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »Carrot cake and a dollop of ice cream, best of both worlds.
You're not getting it - there is no middle ground. It's either ice cream or carrots, no context or compromise allowed.
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L1zardQueen wrote: »Carrot cake and a dollop of ice cream, best of both worlds.
You're not getting it - there is no middle ground. It's either ice cream or carrots, no context or compromise allowed.
There never is.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
Hey, you posted in the Debate area. If you don't want to debate, then consider not posting in here.15 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »Carrot cake and a dollop of ice cream, best of both worlds.
This, this is the right answer.4 -
bobsanders1 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
As for carrots or ice cream...
More like an everyone must comply, hold hands and sing Kumbya together forum.
Why, because people disagreed with you and you didn't like it?14 -
bobsanders1 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
As for carrots or ice cream...
More like an everyone must comply, hold hands and sing Kumbya together forum.
So if you look at the top of this thread on this page, you'll see this thread is in the "Debate Forum". In a debate, when you post your opinion, you should expect that people will... debate it. In other words, some people will come back and ask you to clarify, or will tell you they disagree with your post and tell you why.
You certainly have the right to think telling someone to use a food scale is bad advice. But replies were telling you this is often suggested to folks who are struggling and don't know why. Your response seemed to be that if a person is working hard and using their brain, they shouldn't need a food scale, which is blatantly insulting to a lot of people here. It stands to reason posters will push back at that.
I will also often suggest newbies start out using a food scale. I think so many people have a really warped perception of what a serving is, and a few weeks using a food scale will make them better at eyeballing portions in the future. Plenty of folks lose weight without using one though, and I can understand why some people find it too daunting or detailed to go that route. I still think it's good advice!22 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
Again, we're debating, that's how it works
Anyway, if I'm going to eat a bowl of veggies in an effort to get lots of nutrition, I wouldn't eat carrots. Probably a nice bowl of greens sauteed in chicken stock and garlic, which would no doubt leave calorie room for a small bowl of ice cream to have with my green tea :drinker: 21 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
Have you met Bob?25 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description... )
OK, you've convinced me to try it.
Who says we can't have a constructive debate?!7 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description... )
OK, you've convinced me to try it.
Who says we can't have a constructive debate?!
It was a tiny bucket of heaven that wasn't long for this Earth (once I opened it).2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description... )
OK, you've convinced me to try it.
Who says we can't have a constructive debate?!
It was a tiny bucket of heaven that wasn't long for this Earth (once I opened it).
Right?!? Make sure you've banked 1240 calories.6 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
I don't think I need to answer to you ABOUT WHAT ADVICE I PERSONALLY DONT AGREE WITH - GO EAT A BOWL OF CARROTS OR A BOWL OF ICE CREAM - YOUR CHOICE.
It's the Debate forum. We're debating.
Cookies and cream or moose tracks?
The Tonight Dough...
That woo wasn't me
Ben & Jerry's cookies and cream cheesecake core is the correct answer, though.
Caramel and chocolate ice creams mixed with gobs of chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, and a chocolate cookie batter ribbon. You CANNOT beat The Tonight Dough. (And the fact that I can quote the description... )
OK, you've convinced me to try it.
Who says we can't have a constructive debate?!
If we're going to debate it, and conduct our own trials, I'd add Half Baked and Phish Food to the list. Studies need to be complete and thorough, right?4 -
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