Is the creamer worth it?
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NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.7 -
DaisyHamilton wrote: »First, most commercially bottled creamers are dairy free, or at least the ones I've ever used (Coffeemate, Lucerne, etc). Second, I find that for me personally it is 200% worth the extra calories/sugar/whatever. I don't enjoy my coffee the same without it.
I switched from creamers to half and half. 30 calories of deliciousness and I can still taste the coffee.
Absolutely! I set aside 80 - 100 calories a day (even when I was losing weight) for half-and-half because coffee is an indulgence for me that I get to have every day
eta: I don't actually like coffee, but I love coffee-flavored half-and-half7 -
I bet he believes “starvation mode” is a thing too. What frustrates me about this is they’re the reason so many people have an unhealthy relationship with food. When will the broscience die already?11
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The first time I ever lost weight I had read that dairy was GOOD for weight loss, so added in a glass of milk to my breakfast. I lost weight super easily. (It had zero to do with the milk, I am sure, but it certainly didn't hurt.)
This time I knew calories were what mattered and I don't really like milk, so I ate the dairy I normally eat (some cottage cheese and greek yogurt, occasional ice cream, cheese in some stuff or occasional interesting, good quality cheeses on their own), and it did not impede my loss.
So if you like creamer in coffee, use it.
I personally love coffee black, however.6 -
collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition7 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
Just because he holds classes and prepares plans doesn't mean he actually has any scientific knowledge. Any one could do that.11 -
cheryldumais wrote: »No food makes your weight loss efforts more or less successful unless you eat too much of it. It's all about calories. I lost over 100 lbs using dairy almost daily and it didn't hinder me in any way. If you really enjoy the creamer then use it but make sure you log the calories accurately. I'm pretty sure it's more than 5 calories.
😅 I actually meant to say 50!
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NashvilleRealtor wrote: »I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
Because he holds classes for weight lifter bros doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. Anyone can google articles and set himself/herself up as an "expert". I use half-and-half in my coffee, have no intention of giving it up, and it didn't keep me from losing 70 pounds (or keeping it off).7 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
With respect, not all trainers are created equal and yours doesn't know what he's talking about.
I've lost 125 lbs - from morbidly obese to the middle of normal BMI - while eating dairy every day. Greek yogurt in particular is a good source of protein which fits into my lifestyle well.6 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
What, specifically, about dairy does he disapprove of? Most any food can be a barrier to weight loss if you consume too much of it.7 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
I had a personal trainer who told me not to eat dairy. She said it's bad for me. I said, why? You feed your son dairy. She said, that's different. Shortly after that she was no longer my trainer.
I lost a LOT of weight and never gave up dairy.18 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
There are a lot of roads which can lead to the same place. It's quite possible that eating on his eating plan (haven't seen it) will put you in a caloric deficit - all that is necessary to lose weight - and allow you to succeed at your goals. If you want to follow his plan without the trouble of making decisions for yourself, probably nothing he is suggesting will kill you.
However, it's not NECESSARY to follow his plan to lose weight and gain muscle. Many people do those things while eating dairy.
There are successful bodybuilders who are vegan, and successful bodybuilders who chug milk and eat steaks. The important thing is to choose a way of eating which makes you happy, so that you will stick with it, which is necessary to be successful in the long term. It doesn't sound like giving up creamer in your coffee is what you want to do - so don't. Find a way to make it fit into your calorie goals.8 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
If I believed everything that everyone ever told me about what to eat, what not to eat, what's good, what's bad, I still wouldn't know what I would be able to eat or not eat. Everyone has an opinion, everyone seems to want to share it, and everyone thinks their way is the best. Not all trainers have an education in nutrition. Most MDs don't even know much about nutrition. Do your homework, and if you are going to research on the internet, make sure your sources are reputable. Remember, anyone can post anything on the internet and say it's true.3 -
To me it sounds like the trainer has suggested cutting calorie dense food that people can easily overeat. It's unnecessary for weight loss to cut a whole food group, but only if your are carefully tracking how much of that food group you are eating. Aka weighing all your foods and eating within your calorie range. Since many people won't do this, people try eliminating certain foods is a way to lower calorie intake sort of 'by accident'. That's why some of the WW core food programs work for some people - people are unlikely to overeat those core foods and so accidentally eat less calorically.
If you are committed to weighing and tracking your food, and have no other food sensitivities, then go ahead and have your dairy!3 -
Definitely question your personal trainer. My personal training book has a very brief chapter on nutrition and there is no mention of cutting dairy. The information given is very basic and similar to what you see posted here. Moderation, no fad diets, etc.
In fact it states:Most people trying to lose weight want to omit food groups or extremely limit an entire nutrient class. The advice should be that fad diets do not work in the long run. Instead, clients should educate themselves on the six classes of nutrients the body needs for proper function.
And as a side note:
I drink coffee multiple times a day and there is always 70 calories from creamer. I also eat cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese and drink milk. No problems losing weight.8 -
I put 3/4C of hot milk in every cup of coffee, and (as an ovo-lacto vegetarian) probably get 1/3-1/2 of my protein most days from dairy foods of all sorts. It didn't prevent me from losing nearly 1/3 of my body weight in just under a year, and it hasn't stopped me maintaining a healthy weight for about 3 years since.
Some people are lactose intolerant: They experience negative symptoms from eating dairy foods. Those people shouldn't eat dairy foods. Me, I have nice Northern European genes from many generations of ancestors who ate lots of dairy, thus am not lactose intolerant, so it's fine.
There's a branch of trendy "nutrition" advice these days that says everyone would be better off without dairy, gluten, and sugar. That's all nonsense, in that form, anyway.
The truth (IMNSHO): Everyone would be better off if they got well-rounded nutrition - enough protein, enough fats (especially MUFAs and PUFAs), and a boatload of varied, colorful fruits and veggies, plus such treats (for joy) as fit into a calorie goal that keeps them at a healthy weight; and they should avoid foods that make them, personally, sick or cause allergic reactions. That's it. Any other rules are personal choice and optional.
Only you know whether the creamer is worth it. The trainer's nutritional advice is Not Good.7 -
I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.0
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I would:
1. Lose the trainer that put that idea out there in the first place because whatever else he’s peddling is probably nonsense as well
2. Stop randomly googling things like “will dairy prevent me from losing weight” because when you frame your search in that way you will find all sorts of non scientific information that confirms the bias you’ve already shown
3. Read up on the actual mechanism of weight loss. It is quite simple: CICO. You can eat any foods you like, in the context of an overall balanced diet, and if you are in a calorie deficit you will lose weight. That includes dairy. You can also give the stickied “most helpful forum posts” a read as they are a wealth of information.12 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »So, I've read that dairy is bad for you if your goal is to lose weight so I stopped consuming dairy products. Although it wasn't an easy thing to do because, I mean.. delicious melty cheese! But I I think my body finally started getting used to the lack of dairy and I don't even crave it.
There is one thing however, that I'm still not 100% on. I would prefer to drink my coffee with creamer. I know that adding creamer to it would break my Dairy streak but I'm wondering... Is it really going to affect me losing weight by adding a teaspoon to a tablespoon of creamer every morning? Or is a dairy free diet more beneficial and the creamer will throw things out of balance?
I know that the amount of creamer that I add to my coffee is only five calories.
All I know is that 6 days a week, my breakfast consists of Greek yogurt, fruit (mainly grapes, occasionally blueberries, clementines, or if I don't have a full cup of fresh fruit, I'll mince up a small amount of dried fruit to make up for it) and a granola bar. Hasn't hurt a thing!
ETA: I do ration my cheese, but that's because I could eat a pound a day if I had access to it. Once a week, I get two slices of Muenster or Havarti on a bagel and savor every bite.5 -
I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.
Omg 🤤 cheese is the best... reading all of this people's comments is making me think that perhaps he suggested for me to cut all dairy because- something that most people have said is right- that is the one thing that we tend to indulge in.
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