Thoughts on eating 800 calories a day?
vickygalo
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I would never consider something like that. There just isn't enough research to justify dieting to such an extreme measure.7
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Starving yourself is not a solution. I'd claw my husband's eyes out and toss them in some marinade on the second day.30
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MommyL2015 wrote: »Starving yourself is not a solution. I'd claw my husband's eyes out and toss them in some marinade on the second day.
i am told i am not nice when im hungry.
marinaded and grilled husband would work for me by day two.15 -
That article I linked above is the Fast 800!4
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Crash dieting, 5:2 and intermittent fasting are not new or revolutionary. He's just thrown them all in the pot together. I do believe there is evidence that a VLCD is beneficial for people with blood sugar issues (in the short term, under medical supervision) but I don't see that a book and a TV show by a presenter (who as far as I can tell has never actually worked as a doctor) is going to convince me that starving myself is good idea.22
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TBH for a daily mail article it is pretty good.9 -
No. Just no.8
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As I need to lose weight but I'm very short and getting on a bit [70] I think this Fast 800 way of doing things could work for me but I'd only do it for a few weeks then up the cals to 1000. I don't think it's a sustainable long term diet for younger, taller people though.13
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While this could work for some people, it is just not for me as a diabetic that works a very very busy job....I would be wanting to eat my work colleagues by lunchtime 😀2
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Crash dieting, 5:2 and intermittent fasting are not new or revolutionary. He's just thrown them all in the pot together. I do believe there is evidence that a VLCD is beneficial for people with blood sugar issues (in the short term, under medical supervision) but I don't see that a book and a TV show by a presenter (who as far as I can tell has never actually worked as a doctor) is going to convince me that starving myself is good idea.
the 800 calories as a number seems to have come from a fairly recent study that they did on diabetics who were significantlly over weight - as you say though it was under medical supervision, and only for a short space of time, but it had a significant positive on their blood sugar levels and other health markers.
would i eat 800 cals a day to lose weight, no, and do i think its necessary, no, but then i am not the target audience of someone significantly overweight with bad health.7 -
I think that 800 calories seems really low to me. I don't think that I'd be able to do it, but more power to those who do.4
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I like the fasting part of it though, as I tend to binge late at night!9
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PaigeAnderson1793 wrote: »more power to those who do.
It's not a competition to eat as little as possible. If someone wants to do this to themselves (fully informed of the risks) that's fine but I'm not going to praise them for it when it's unnecessary, unproven and can cause/ exacerbate disordered eating patterns. Hence the warning in the article that it is not suitable for anyone with a history of an eating disorder, red flag if I ever saw one.14 -
This guy isn't talking about eating 800 calories every day. I had to read this article several times. He's talking about IF 5:2, and only eating 800 calories on the 2 fasting days. Yes he talks about other ways to fast, but then he dives into how his way of 5:2 is a far superior way to fast, and then talks about the 800 fast plan.
Besides, it wouldn't make sense for him to advocate to only eat 800 calories on the 2 fast days for 5:2, but advocate for everyone else who fasts over 12 hours every day to always only eat 800 calories.6 -
He was interviewed on ITV morning news programme yesterday and was saying to do the 800 cal a day for a week, a month or a few months but not really long term.
Edit:they also showed what 800 cals of food looks like -
Breakfast = 2 boiled eggs
Lunch = grilled salmon, broccoli, green beans
Dinner = A bowl of thick soup
I think I could get more food out of 800 cals personally.4 -
suziecue25 wrote: »He was interviewed on ITV morning news programme yesterday and was saying to do the 800 cal a day for a week, a month or a few months but not really long term.
the article says a maximum of 12 weeks1 -
YvetteK2015 wrote: »This guy isn't talking about eating 800 calories every day. I had to read this article several times. He's talking about IF 5:2, and only eating 800 calories on the 2 fasting days. Yes he talks about other ways to fast, but then he dives into how his way of 5:2 is a far superior way to fast, and then talks about the 800 fast plan.
Besides, it wouldn't make sense for him to advocate to only eat 800 calories on the 2 fast days for 5:2, but advocate for everyone else who fasts over 12 hours every day to always only eat 800 calories.
He does seem to suggest 800kcal a day every day for "a period of time", and also IF at the same time. It is not very clear tbh, he's all over the place.The 5:2/Fast 800 in a nutshell
1. Choose whether you want to kick-start your diet with a fast track 800 calories a day, every day, for a period of time (if you have any health problems, check with your GP first) or opt for an 800-calorie limit on two days each week (as 5:2).
2. Increase the health benefits by eating within a restricted time window, starting with 12 hours of fasting (overnight) and building to a 16-hour overnight fast (eating in an eight-hour window).
3. Eat either two or three meals per day on your 800-calorie days, choosing between meal replacement shakes or pick and mix from the calorie-counted recipes in the paper all this week, keeping your carbohydrate intake low.
4. Eat a healthy Mediterranean-inspired diet on your five non-fast days, keeping carbohydrates low and portions small — but there is no calorie counting.
VLCD, IF, meal replacements, low-carb, MEDITERRANEAN DIET
That's got to be some sort of bingo.
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I have done this before where I fasted 16 hrs a day and ate very little. I lost about 25lbs in a month and gained it back afterward. I remember I felt weak and lazy all day plus my body shape was not right, like I lost weight in certain areas and other areas where still bigger. After joining MFP I realized I am adjusting a lifestyle rather than a crash coarse. I have to learn to eat smaller portions and stay away from fatty non healthy foods. Plus I need the energy to exercise doing cardio and strength training. So I am fine loosing 2lbs a week as long as I stay consistent.15
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YvetteK2015 wrote: »This guy isn't talking about eating 800 calories every day. I had to read this article several times. He's talking about IF 5:2, and only eating 800 calories on the 2 fasting days. Yes he talks about other ways to fast, but then he dives into how his way of 5:2 is a far superior way to fast, and then talks about the 800 fast plan.
Besides, it wouldn't make sense for him to advocate to only eat 800 calories on the 2 fast days for 5:2, but advocate for everyone else who fasts over 12 hours every day to always only eat 800 calories.
He does seem to suggest 800kcal a day every day for "a period of time", and also IF at the same time. It is not very clear tbh, he's all over the place.The 5:2/Fast 800 in a nutshell
1. Choose whether you want to kick-start your diet with a fast track 800 calories a day, every day, for a period of time (if you have any health problems, check with your GP first) or opt for an 800-calorie limit on two days each week (as 5:2).
2. Increase the health benefits by eating within a restricted time window, starting with 12 hours of fasting (overnight) and building to a 16-hour overnight fast (eating in an eight-hour window).
3. Eat either two or three meals per day on your 800-calorie days, choosing between meal replacement shakes or pick and mix from the calorie-counted recipes in the paper all this week, keeping your carbohydrate intake low.
4. Eat a healthy Mediterranean-inspired diet on your five non-fast days, keeping carbohydrates low and portions small — but there is no calorie counting.
VLCD, IF, meal replacements, low-carb, MEDITERRANEAN DIET
That's got to be some sort of bingo.
That's why I had to read it several times. Although he talks about how to extend fasting, he then goes on to talk about how superior his 5:2 fasting is, and he even says to only eat 800 calories on the 2 fasted days and eat regularly every other day. So to me the article was pushing the 5:23 -
TavistockToad wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »He was interviewed on ITV morning news programme yesterday and was saying to do the 800 cal a day for a week, a month or a few months but not really long term.
the article says a maximum of 12 weeks
The article does say 12 weeks but the guy himself said different on tv2 -
'It combines all the latest thinking about the health benefits of kick-starting your diet with a fast-track 800 calories a day for a few days, weeks or months, followed by a steady — and now much more manageable — 5:2, which allows 800 calories on fast days and healthy eating the rest of the week."
I see it now. You starve yourself on 800 calories for a period of time, THEN you get a reasonable 5:2 plan lol.4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »He was interviewed on ITV morning news programme yesterday and was saying to do the 800 cal a day for a week, a month or a few months but not really long term.
the article says a maximum of 12 weeks
Hang on....12 weeks is 3 months = a few months, which is what I said5 -
I've used Mosley's 5:2IF plan in the past and thought he was a pretty solid resource (I've read his older book/watched his BBC fasting documentary a few times and suggested it to others), however I can no longer recommend him to others because I think he's going down a slippery slope and people will jump on his new plan and end up a mess.7
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Low intake diets can be ok for *some* people under *certain* circumstances. But as a general rule, they are neither healthy nor sustainable. They do not teach good habits, proper portion control, or balance. IMO, they are not a good option.
5:2 and similar fasting protocols, by in large, are more healthy (nutritional) given the 5 days at full calories, assuming a reasonably balanced diet. And if you are properly managing your intake on the 5 days, then you *should* be learning about portion sizes, balance, etc... so most of the concerns related to VLCD go away (or the risk is minimized) with 5:2 and similar. However, the question of long-term sustainability still comes up, and the answer to that question will probably be very individual.6 -
I apologize in advance! I’m not promoting 800 calories a day. I just read this intermittent fasting article and it mentioned doing 5 days regular eating, 2 days 800 calories so I thought I would ask.6
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I've only known one person who did an 800 cal/day diet and that was under medical supervision as part of treating issues beyond just being overweight. I would not choose that route. I do sometimes have days that low, but not lots of them and generally only due to illness or something of that nature.4
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I apologize in advance! I’m not promoting 800 calories a day. I just read this intermittent fasting article and it mentioned doing 5 days regular eating, 2 days 800 calories so I thought I would ask.
That would be 5:2IF and is generally accepted as an ok plan to follow. The key though is making sure you have those higher calorie days mixed in with the lower calorie days. Mosley started out promoting that but has now gone down the path of promoting very low calorie days for consecutive days, for longer periods of time. That's completely different than 5:2IF.4 -
Extremely dangerous to attempt with a team of medical professionals monitoring you.
There would have to be some massive underlying health risk to justify this.
This still fails to address the underlying behavioral aspect and the long term success rate of these programs are abysmal.7 -
My thoughts, based as always on my own experience. Last year when I first started to exercise I didn’t eat back any calories and was eating 1200-1300 calories a day. (Didn’t know better at that time).
Reading through the boards, I figured out what net calories were. lol. Turns out I was netting 800-900 calories most days. I was lightheaded and tired. When I made sure I was netting the correct amount of calories for me those issues resolved and I continued to lose just fine, albeit slower.
Personally, I think 800 calories a day seems unnecessarily low and potentially dangerous unless one is under the direction of a physician. Intermittent fasting, on the other hand, can be very helpful to stay within a healthy calorie intake.
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thoughts on eating 800 cal a day...i would probably end up in jail for murder due to hangryness...7
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