Use of 'Woo' reaction - negative reactions?
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Wait! “Woo” doesn’t mean “Woo Hoo!”?????? Uh oh... pressed a lot of woo buttons to show how much I liked the post/ or so I thought! Yikes.
I was wondering why that icon had a weird smirky face!1 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »It makes me not want to use these forums AT ALL, to be honest. I was very active with thousands of posts before they added the reaction features and since then I maybe have just a couple hundred posts in the past few years. I have experienced people "wooing" ANY thing I post - for example sharing concrete, helpful tips, or just telling a silly story. I hate it. If you were able to see who is selecting "woo" it would help in my opinion as I'd block abusers of this stupid, unnecessary feature.
I think the people honestly saying "oh I thought it meant woo hoo" are very rare.
And. Commence "woo" punching, I guess.
Blocking people wouldn't stop the woos. You can ignore people now, but unless they ignore you, they can still comment on your post.1 -
As mentioned in the Announcements section:
Woo is negative.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10570889/new-community-reaction-woo#latest1 -
It has also been well discussed here:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10623894/the-origin-and-meaning-of-woo2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
Even the official definition is ambiguous. Some think "too good to be true" is a good thing, like "Wow!"
"Too good to be true" is never a good thing.
But yes, like "Wow!"
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I don't know that it really means "bad science". It seems more a matter of "My favorite nutrition/diet/exercise study says something different than your favorite study." MFP is a place where people have very strong opinions about what is science and what is internet fluff, and the woo button button is a shortcut to expressing them. I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
That said, I wish there was a woo-hoo button. It would be more enthusiastic than pressing "inspiring", and the hug button seems like it's there for comforting others. "Like" is really bland.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Without seeing the context of the post it's hard to say, but remember some people use the 'woo' reaction as 'woo hoo!' My advice: ignore it completely, or use it as a source of amusement.
It was on the 5lbs January weight loss challenge. I posted my weekly update and stated that I lost 4lbs since last Sunday.
Thank you for your advice, it is appreciated
Likely reason for getting negatively woo-d is because 4lbs a week is a huge loss. BUT considering you probably also just started, and most initial big losses are water weight as well as fat weight it's probably not anything worrisome I think woos happen as sort of a knee-jerk reaction to posts like that, honestly.
I thought that myself but would never judge someone else unless I knew the facts. I couldn't starve myself (just not built that way 😂). I just don't think people realise how much their reactions affect people. It put me right off posting tbh.
You guys are cool though, you can stay 👍
Maybe it would help to see how stupid some of these woo's are.
I got one for:I don't drink coffee, but that's because even the smell of it nauseates me. I do drink other beverages with caffeine (tea and diet colas).
Does someone question that I get nauseated by the smell of coffee? Or am I lying about drinking tea and diet cola?
There is no point in taking them seriously. I figure if someone is serious about questioning my post, they will actually question it.
ETA: And I doubt it's a woo-hoo, because who would woo-hoo nausea?
I got booed (or rather got a comment so I assumed that's why this person booed it) because I suggested that 300 cals of veg would be better for you than 300cals of cookies. How dare I state that vegetables are good for you! 4 -
Almost everything I post gets a woo. Even just a pic of my pets where other people were also posting their pets???
My hamster is pseudo-science. Or I've annoyed someone and got myself haunted by a lil woo-ghost
I use it as a disagree but honestly, disagreeing doesn't mean that the poster or the disagreer are wrong, it means that people have different opinions and/or experiences. I am significantly more active on a different website whose forums are a. technologically sophisticated (in code used in creating them), b. is much higher in volume, and c. can be a significantly more heated (for good and bad). I like that the buttons they have include "agree" and "disagree" as it's less subjective that "like" and "woo", though that doesn't get rid of the frequent "disagree threads".
I do prefer forums where there are no reaction buttons at all tbh. I guess it makes sense for quick-question type forums where you might just need to look at the best or "most approved" answer but for discussion forums it makes more sense to me to have to quote the post and say why you agree/ disagree. Nit-picking here obvs.7 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Without seeing the context of the post it's hard to say, but remember some people use the 'woo' reaction as 'woo hoo!' My advice: ignore it completely, or use it as a source of amusement.
It was on the 5lbs January weight loss challenge. I posted my weekly update and stated that I lost 4lbs since last Sunday.
Thank you for your advice, it is appreciated
Likely reason for getting negatively woo-d is because 4lbs a week is a huge loss. BUT considering you probably also just started, and most initial big losses are water weight as well as fat weight it's probably not anything worrisome I think woos happen as sort of a knee-jerk reaction to posts like that, honestly.
I thought that myself but would never judge someone else unless I knew the facts. I couldn't starve myself (just not built that way 😂). I just don't think people realise how much their reactions affect people. It put me right off posting tbh.
You guys are cool though, you can stay 👍
Maybe it would help to see how stupid some of these woo's are.
I got one for:I don't drink coffee, but that's because even the smell of it nauseates me. I do drink other beverages with caffeine (tea and diet colas).
Does someone question that I get nauseated by the smell of coffee? Or am I lying about drinking tea and diet cola?
There is no point in taking them seriously. I figure if someone is serious about questioning my post, they will actually question it.
ETA: And I doubt it's a woo-hoo, because who would woo-hoo nausea? I got booed (or rather got a comment so I assumed that's why this person booed it) because I suggested that 300 cals of veg would be better for you than 300cals of cookies. How dare I state that vegetables are good for you!
In that case, it may have been “disagree” rather than “not true.” Personally, on most days I’d take the 300 calorie cookie over 300 calories of vegetables. Without being too graphic, 300 calories of vegetables would give me some serious bathroom issues. So I’ll have a 300 calorie cookie and maybe 25 calories of broccoli. 🤷♀️5 -
Why not a simple thumbs down next to the thumbs up? There are some awfully helpful posts that have been "wooed". It's not helpful at all to do that and not leave a comment stating why.3
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Why not a simple thumbs down next to the thumbs up? There are some awfully helpful posts that have been "wooed". It's not helpful at all to do that and not leave a comment stating why.
It's MFP's official position that they don't want an overtly negative response option. (Even though "woo" often creates more negativity, IMO.)4 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Without seeing the context of the post it's hard to say, but remember some people use the 'woo' reaction as 'woo hoo!' My advice: ignore it completely, or use it as a source of amusement.
It was on the 5lbs January weight loss challenge. I posted my weekly update and stated that I lost 4lbs since last Sunday.
Thank you for your advice, it is appreciated
Likely reason for getting negatively woo-d is because 4lbs a week is a huge loss. BUT considering you probably also just started, and most initial big losses are water weight as well as fat weight it's probably not anything worrisome I think woos happen as sort of a knee-jerk reaction to posts like that, honestly.
I thought that myself but would never judge someone else unless I knew the facts. I couldn't starve myself (just not built that way 😂). I just don't think people realise how much their reactions affect people. It put me right off posting tbh.
You guys are cool though, you can stay 👍
Maybe it would help to see how stupid some of these woo's are.
I got one for:I don't drink coffee, but that's because even the smell of it nauseates me. I do drink other beverages with caffeine (tea and diet colas).
Does someone question that I get nauseated by the smell of coffee? Or am I lying about drinking tea and diet cola?
There is no point in taking them seriously. I figure if someone is serious about questioning my post, they will actually question it.
ETA: And I doubt it's a woo-hoo, because who would woo-hoo nausea? I got booed (or rather got a comment so I assumed that's why this person booed it) because I suggested that 300 cals of veg would be better for you than 300cals of cookies. How dare I state that vegetables are good for you!
Depends on the context. If you were implying that people shouldn't have cookies as part of an overall healthy diet, that will get wooed. Or if you were suggesting that 300 calories of vegetables is better for weight loss than 300 calories of cookies. Everyone knows that vegetables have more nutrition than cookies, but a calorie is a calorie. (And if it's only one woo, that person may just really like cookies
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I'll get stray woos every once and a while for posts where I think maybe the person actually meant it as a positive. I think some people do confuse it with "wow". But as for the few posts I've made that have gotten multiple woos, lets just say they were... not the most well received.2
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I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
As I mentioned, I don't even use the woo button. But the thing is, if a person comes out and makes a bogus claim ("ACV accelerates weight loss!"), it would be a disservice to all the impressionable people who are reading these forums desperate for weight loss to just let that go unchallenged. "Woo" was actually provided as a way to respond to these kinds of posts without multiple users ganging up on people with the same response. Ideally, I suppose, one person could just craft a pointed, well-written response and everyone could just "like" it, but it just never seems to work that way.5 -
The woo in theory is an alright idea, but I think that the people who don't like being wooed go elsewhere. I've never seen a similar 'feature' in another weight loss forum.0
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I find this interesting...I've never used woo and when I look at the lineup would like to think it's positive, as it is between like and hug. It's unfortunate that people use it in a negative way.
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I find this interesting...I've never used woo and when I look at the lineup would like to think it's positive, as it is between like and hug. It's unfortunate that people use it in a negative way.
Did you read this?quiksylver296 wrote: »If you hover your mouse over it, the code at the bottom of the screen says "WTF". That should answer your question...6 -
I'll get stray woos every once and a while for posts where I think maybe the person actually meant it as a positive. I think some people do confuse it with "wow". But as for the few posts I've made that have gotten multiple woos, lets just say they were... not the most well received.
Yes, one or two is often people thinking they are saying "awesome", but if a post or comment has a dozen woos, it may be worth researching the matter or asking questions to see what the issue might be. Many of us have expanded our knowledge this way. 2 -
Nope didn't hover or read it, but when I just did I see.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »I find this interesting...I've never used woo and when I look at the lineup would like to think it's positive, as it is between like and hug. It's unfortunate that people use it in a negative way.
Did you read this?quiksylver296 wrote: »If you hover your mouse over it, the code at the bottom of the screen says "WTF". That should answer your question...
Probably would be easier if they just made it a WTF button.7 -
I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
As I mentioned, I don't even use the woo button. But the thing is, if a person comes out and makes a bogus claim ("ACV accelerates weight loss!"), it would be a disservice to all the impressionable people who are reading these forums desperate for weight loss to just let that go unchallenged. "Woo" was actually provided as a way to respond to these kinds of posts without multiple users ganging up on people with the same response. Ideally, I suppose, one person could just craft a pointed, well-written response and everyone could just "like" it, but it just never seems to work that way.
and originally i think that was the plan (hence the WTF code) but then MFP decided that they shouldn't have a negative feedback button, so it became the more ambiguous woo/woo hoo meaning3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Without seeing the context of the post it's hard to say, but remember some people use the 'woo' reaction as 'woo hoo!' My advice: ignore it completely, or use it as a source of amusement.
It was on the 5lbs January weight loss challenge. I posted my weekly update and stated that I lost 4lbs since last Sunday.
Thank you for your advice, it is appreciated
Likely reason for getting negatively woo-d is because 4lbs a week is a huge loss. BUT considering you probably also just started, and most initial big losses are water weight as well as fat weight it's probably not anything worrisome I think woos happen as sort of a knee-jerk reaction to posts like that, honestly.
I thought that myself but would never judge someone else unless I knew the facts. I couldn't starve myself (just not built that way 😂). I just don't think people realise how much their reactions affect people. It put me right off posting tbh.
You guys are cool though, you can stay 👍
Maybe it would help to see how stupid some of these woo's are.
I got one for:I don't drink coffee, but that's because even the smell of it nauseates me. I do drink other beverages with caffeine (tea and diet colas).
Does someone question that I get nauseated by the smell of coffee? Or am I lying about drinking tea and diet cola?
There is no point in taking them seriously. I figure if someone is serious about questioning my post, they will actually question it.
ETA: And I doubt it's a woo-hoo, because who would woo-hoo nausea? I got booed (or rather got a comment so I assumed that's why this person booed it) because I suggested that 300 cals of veg would be better for you than 300cals of cookies. How dare I state that vegetables are good for you!
Depends on the context. If you were implying that people shouldn't have cookies as part of an overall healthy diet, that will get wooed. Or if you were suggesting that 300 calories of vegetables is better for weight loss than 300 calories of cookies. Everyone knows that vegetables have more nutrition than cookies, but a calorie is a calorie.
That is exactly the point I was trying to make, it is a fact that vegetables are going to be better for you than cookies. Fresh food trumps processed food every day of the week. I am all for balance and my diet is by no means perfect and am certainly not a nutritionist or doctor and don't claim to be, however..... a calorie is a calorie yes, but not all calories are created equal...
Imagine a day full of food like this - Mcdonalds Breakfast 400cals, Greggs Pasty and cookie, 600cals, Pot Noodle 400 cals. total cals 1400calories
or this: Porridge with banana and honey 350cals, chicken salad with couscous and dressing/sauce 400cals, Homemade spaghetti bolagnese 500cals, snacks - yogurt 100cal, fruit 50cals total cals 1400
I know which one I would be going for. That was kind of the point I was trying to get to. Obviously it is difficult to put that across without a massive essay.
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It is really unclear how people are using the 'woo' reaction in the community? How would you use it? Positive or negative?
The defined meaning is to mark something that's too good to be true, basically all that silly stuff people say about dieting that's not based in fact (like my jr high friend's mom who claimed that calories from cheese go right to the butt, back when that was understood to be bad).
It gets misused all the time. And some think it's positive. If you think it's a weird fit for a post of yours, ignore it.2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
As I mentioned, I don't even use the woo button. But the thing is, if a person comes out and makes a bogus claim ("ACV accelerates weight loss!"), it would be a disservice to all the impressionable people who are reading these forums desperate for weight loss to just let that go unchallenged. "Woo" was actually provided as a way to respond to these kinds of posts without multiple users ganging up on people with the same response. Ideally, I suppose, one person could just craft a pointed, well-written response and everyone could just "like" it, but it just never seems to work that way.
and originally i think that was the plan (hence the WTF code) but then MFP decided that they shouldn't have a negative feedback button, so it became the more ambiguous woo/woo hoo meaning
WTF is the reaction that comes with the vanilla software. It was overridden to make it woo. Same thing with hug overriding awesome. That's why all the awesomes became hugs when they made the switch.2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Without seeing the context of the post it's hard to say, but remember some people use the 'woo' reaction as 'woo hoo!' My advice: ignore it completely, or use it as a source of amusement.
It was on the 5lbs January weight loss challenge. I posted my weekly update and stated that I lost 4lbs since last Sunday.
Thank you for your advice, it is appreciated
Likely reason for getting negatively woo-d is because 4lbs a week is a huge loss. BUT considering you probably also just started, and most initial big losses are water weight as well as fat weight it's probably not anything worrisome I think woos happen as sort of a knee-jerk reaction to posts like that, honestly.
I thought that myself but would never judge someone else unless I knew the facts. I couldn't starve myself (just not built that way 😂). I just don't think people realise how much their reactions affect people. It put me right off posting tbh.
You guys are cool though, you can stay 👍
Maybe it would help to see how stupid some of these woo's are.
I got one for:I don't drink coffee, but that's because even the smell of it nauseates me. I do drink other beverages with caffeine (tea and diet colas).
Does someone question that I get nauseated by the smell of coffee? Or am I lying about drinking tea and diet cola?
There is no point in taking them seriously. I figure if someone is serious about questioning my post, they will actually question it.
ETA: And I doubt it's a woo-hoo, because who would woo-hoo nausea? I got booed (or rather got a comment so I assumed that's why this person booed it) because I suggested that 300 cals of veg would be better for you than 300cals of cookies. How dare I state that vegetables are good for you!
Depends on the context. If you were implying that people shouldn't have cookies as part of an overall healthy diet, that will get wooed. Or if you were suggesting that 300 calories of vegetables is better for weight loss than 300 calories of cookies. Everyone knows that vegetables have more nutrition than cookies, but a calorie is a calorie.
That is exactly the point I was trying to make, it is a fact that vegetables are going to be better for you than cookies. Fresh food trumps processed food every day of the week. I am all for balance and my diet is by no means perfect and am certainly not a nutritionist or doctor and don't claim to be, however..... a calorie is a calorie yes, but not all calories are created equal...
Imagine a day full of food like this - Mcdonalds Breakfast 400cals, Greggs Pasty and cookie, 600cals, Pot Noodle 400 cals. total cals 1400calories
or this: Porridge with banana and honey 350cals, chicken salad with couscous and dressing/sauce 400cals, Homemade spaghetti bolagnese 500cals, snacks - yogurt 100cal, fruit 50cals total cals 1400
I know which one I would be going for. That was kind of the point I was trying to get to. Obviously it is difficult to put that across without a massive essay.
The reason you'll get woo'd is the bolded. Change that statement to "a calorie is a calorie, but not all foods are created equal" and you won't. A calorie is a unit of energy. It doesn't change from food to food. It is always a unit of energy.
As for the food choices, I'd likely go for a bit of both. IIFYM is my choice for a way of eating, usually about 80% "good" and 20% "bad". I would freak out and binge if I tried to cut chocolate or ice cream out of my diet forever.13 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
As I mentioned, I don't even use the woo button. But the thing is, if a person comes out and makes a bogus claim ("ACV accelerates weight loss!"), it would be a disservice to all the impressionable people who are reading these forums desperate for weight loss to just let that go unchallenged. "Woo" was actually provided as a way to respond to these kinds of posts without multiple users ganging up on people with the same response. Ideally, I suppose, one person could just craft a pointed, well-written response and everyone could just "like" it, but it just never seems to work that way.
and originally i think that was the plan (hence the WTF code) but then MFP decided that they shouldn't have a negative feedback button, so it became the more ambiguous woo/woo hoo meaning
WTF is the reaction that comes with the vanilla software. It was overridden to make it woo. Same thing with hug overriding awesome. That's why all the awesomes became hugs when they made the switch.
Lucky for @Tacklewasher5 -
I don't know that it really means "bad science". It seems more a matter of "My favorite nutrition/diet/exercise study says something different than your favorite study." MFP is a place where people have very strong opinions about what is science and what is internet fluff, and the woo button button is a shortcut to expressing them. I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
That said, I wish there was a woo-hoo button. It would be more enthusiastic than pressing "inspiring", and the hug button seems like it's there for comforting others. "Like" is really bland.
There used to be an awesome button, which was awesome, but they changed it to hug.
I wish they'd get rid of inspiring or insightful and make it awesome. I know lots of people hate hug, but it has it's uses -- if someone is struggling or something and like seems wrong but you want to show support.
I wish they'd just switch woo to disagree.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »I think people would do better to just ignore things instead of wooing, though
As I mentioned, I don't even use the woo button. But the thing is, if a person comes out and makes a bogus claim ("ACV accelerates weight loss!"), it would be a disservice to all the impressionable people who are reading these forums desperate for weight loss to just let that go unchallenged. "Woo" was actually provided as a way to respond to these kinds of posts without multiple users ganging up on people with the same response. Ideally, I suppose, one person could just craft a pointed, well-written response and everyone could just "like" it, but it just never seems to work that way.
and originally i think that was the plan (hence the WTF code) but then MFP decided that they shouldn't have a negative feedback button, so it became the more ambiguous woo/woo hoo meaning
WTF is the reaction that comes with the vanilla software. It was overridden to make it woo. Same thing with hug overriding awesome. That's why all the awesomes became hugs when they made the switch.
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