Does anyone have any weight loss tips and fat loss tips for me please?
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Hello: I think you should not exercise so much each day that it equals 1400 calories that you are allowed for that day. Just focus on aerobic exercise to burn 500 calories per day. Add weight lifting too for 30 minutes each day. I do this and the weight is falling off me. [ lose fat not muscle] My sister-in-law has a small frame and eats no food [ less than 1000 calories per day] and never exercises and moves at a snails pace. SHE IS OBESE! I eat 2x as much and exercise all day and am rock solid with lots of muscle......just trying to lose a layer of fat right now.12
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If your target is 1400 calories per day stick to it and forget about the extra calories MFP gives you for exercise...In my opinion it's a waste of time. Also make sure you eat several times a day to keep your metabolism going. Your 2 meals a day habit will shut down your metabolism or your body will go into starvation mode and hang on to fat. Eat more often, just smaller meals. You should be aiming for 5 meal breaks a day if you can...every 2-3 hours. That will keep your metabolism humming along.
Your opinion does not reflect the scientific basis on which MFP was designed. While a person who may not be logging with perfect accuracy usually will not be harmed by skipping a few exercise calories, if a person is burning significant amounts of calories and not replacing them, it may easily put them in a deficit that is unhealthy and even dangerous for them.
And again, starvation mode (i.e.- not adaptive thermogenesis, which is a long-term condition, not based on missing a meal), meal timing... bogus.9 -
HEAVYweightlifter wrote: »Hello: I think you should not exercise so much each day that it equals 1400 calories that you are allowed for that day. Just focus on aerobic exercise to burn 500 calories per day. Add weight lifting too for 30 minutes each day. I do this and the weight is falling off me. [ lose fat not muscle] My sister-in-law has a small frame and eats no food [ less than 1000 calories per day] and never exercises and moves at a snails pace. SHE IS OBESE! I eat 2x as much and exercise all day and am rock solid with lots of muscle......just trying to lose a layer of fat right now.
Holy mackerel. What does the bolded even mean? Your sister did not get obese by eating that little, I can tell you that.
OP, you can go ahead and ignore this one too. The number of calories burnt exercising is highly dependent upon the person and intensity. Weight loss is calories in < calories out. Everything else is just a factor that contributes to either side of that equation. If you want to exercise, go ahead, just be sure to log it.8 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »ashleygroizard wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »What kind of tips would you like? It sounds like you've been doing great so far 😊
I did something stupid and starved myself for three days straight and then was told of a health professional we need food to survive. I thought I could live off water and coffee. I was wrong. So over the last few days I’ve gained the weight back plus more then what I started with before I starved myself because I started eating again. Will I start losing weight again or will I just keep going up in weight now? I’m eating less then the recommended kilojoules my fitness pal gave me but only because I’m not that hungry. I’ve been drinking lots of water and two cups of coffee a day. I eat two meals a day.
No need to worry about that. You'll start losing again in no time what happened when you quit eating for those days, your body was confused on why it wasn't getting food then when you gave it food, it's thinking that now it has to store it (which caused the weight gain), just in case that happens again. Your body was just in survival mode like what it would do if you were in the wild. It's completely normal and it will start going back down once it realizes that you're not in survival mode lol. It's annoying I know but that's what the body is programmed to do.
Pretty much none of this is true. Your body doesn't get "confused". It adapts. You don't suddenly store fat from not eating. Survival Mode is not a thing. It's a myth. And Dr. Axe is not considered a credible scientific source. There are many peer reviewed studies on these things that would dispute your assertions.
I would suggest you learn to vet sources and understand what sources are credible and what ones are not. Eg. peer reviewed studies and meta-analyses, scholarly articles from reputable organization like the International Society of Sports Nutrition or JAMA instead of Dr. Axe and google. Learn how PubMed works to find actual studies. You may want to refrain from giving advice until your knowledge of how physiology and nutrition actually work is broader.9 -
I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.20
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LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Two years of anatomy and physiology and you think ACV helps your body remove toxins and starvation mode exists? Yikes.15 -
Teabythesea_ wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Two years of anatomy and physiology and you think ACV helps your body remove toxins and starvation mode exists? Yikes.
If you haven't noticed, both of those concepts are myths/debates therefore there are two sides of it.12 -
Teabythesea_ wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Two years of anatomy and physiology and you think ACV helps your body remove toxins and starvation mode exists? Yikes.
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If your target is 1400 calories per day stick to it and forget about the extra calories MFP gives you for exercise...In my opinion it's a waste of time. Also make sure you eat several times a day to keep your metabolism going. Your 2 meals a day habit will shut down your metabolism or your body will go into starvation mode and hang on to fat. Eat more often, just smaller meals. You should be aiming for 5 meal breaks a day if you can...every 2-3 hours. That will keep your metabolism humming along.
No, that's not how MFP works. If a goal is from MFP, you should eat back exercise calories, at least if you actually have significant exercise calories. You can try eating back a portion until you know how well-calculated they are.
There is zero reason to eat a bunch of times a day unless you happen to be someone for whom that helps control calories. I eat 2-3 times per day, and dislike strongly eating more often. It makes me hungrier.Additionally you need to change up your exercise routine. Walking is great but over time your body gets used to it and you burn fewer calories. Add different exercises, including weight bearing/resistance exercises. Swimming would also be a great addition. Try walking with some hand and/or leg weights.....
Getting in resistance and cardio is good, but confusing your body by changing exercise is a myth, and as you get more fit and better at things like running or walking you will burn more in the same period of time (except that as you get lighter you burn less, all else equal).
Why do people believe things like "you can confuse your body" or "your body doesn't know how to process X food item"? Your body is you, not some antagonist.5 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?8 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.13 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.
I hope you can see that when you quote sources that are not credible or accurate, you do nothing for your own credibility and leave yourself open to challenges.10 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.
I hope you can see that when you quote sources that are not credible or accurate, you do nothing for your own credibility and leave yourself open to challenges.
Well you are right but I learned what I learned when I was in all of those classes and I don't have the material with me/can't share some of the material online so that makes it a little harder for me to find credible sources to back up what I remember, especially since Google is filled with articles/blogs from who knows where. I just posted a link that agreed with what I said.14 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.
I hope you can see that when you quote sources that are not credible or accurate, you do nothing for your own credibility and leave yourself open to challenges.
Well you are right but I learned what I learned when I was in all of those classes and I don't have the material with me/can't share some of the material online so that makes it a little harder for me to find credible sources to back up what I remember, especially since Google is filled with articles/blogs from who knows where. I just posted a link that agreed with what I said.
You can find credible sources on the internet easily (see my response with links to peer reviewed studies). Its not all articles and blogs out there unless your assertion is wrong and not backed by scientific evidence. In that case an article or blog is probably the best you'll get.5 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
You're both correct and incorrect. Starvation Mode does exist, but not in the context that it's talked about on diet sites. It takes several weeks/months on a starvation diet to start wreaking havoc on your internal organs. This is why many of the people found alive in concentration camps at the end of WWII could not be fed or saved. They were unable to keep food down because too much damage had already been done to their bodies and many continued to die for days/weeks after those camps were captured. They had been starved to the point that all of their fat reserves were gone and their bodies had no choice but to start shutting down both minor and major functions.
Starvation Mode as it is talked about on here doesn't exist. You don't go into starvation mode by fasting for a day. You don't start metabolizing your liver by eating under 1200 calories for a week. Etc. That's all a bunch of silliness. You could get in trouble if you decided to eat no more than 500 calories a day for a couple of months, but the MFP tools will warn you that's dangerous and I don't even think they'll allow you to set those parameters for yourself.
Basically, if anyone dieting ever gets to a point where they have to worry about TRUE starvation mode, their issues are more related to mental issues (body dysmorphia, anoerxia, etc.) than counting calories, and there's nothing those people will read on a site like MFP that will dissuade them from the course they are on. They need professional help.
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InsertFunnyUsernameHere wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
You're both correct and incorrect. Starvation Mode does exist, but not in the context that it's talked about on diet sites. It takes several weeks/months on a starvation diet to start wreaking havoc on your internal organs. This is why many of the people found alive in concentration camps at the end of WWII could not be fed or saved. They were unable to keep food down because too much damage had already been done to their bodies and many continued to die for days/weeks after those camps were captured. They had been starved to the point that all of their fat reserves were gone and their bodies had no choice but to start shutting down both minor and major functions.
Starvation Mode as it is talked about on here doesn't exist. You don't go into starvation mode by fasting for a day. You don't start metabolizing your liver by eating under 1200 calories for a week. Etc. That's all a bunch of silliness. You could get in trouble if you decided to eat no more than 500 calories a day for a couple of months, but the MFP tools will warn you that's dangerous and I don't even think they'll allow you to set those parameters for yourself.
Basically, if anyone dieting ever gets to a point where they have to worry about TRUE starvation mode, their issues are more related to mental issues (body dysmorphia, anoerxia, etc.) than counting calories, and there's nothing those people will read on a site like MFP that will dissuade them from the course they are on. They need professional help.
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I agree, thank you.3 -
LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.
I hope you can see that when you quote sources that are not credible or accurate, you do nothing for your own credibility and leave yourself open to challenges.
Well you are right but I learned what I learned when I was in all of those classes and I don't have the material with me/can't share some of the material online so that makes it a little harder for me to find credible sources to back up what I remember, especially since Google is filled with articles/blogs from who knows where. I just posted a link that agreed with what I said.
I gave you multiple suggestions for legitimate sources. Did you not learn about or use any of these in your education?3 -
I just want to thank all the posters involved in the discussion about starvation mode and credible sources. Curiosity led me to google "starvation mode" to see what a person would find. Mixed bag, of course, but it led me to this awesome article that I will be sharing a lot:
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
While not a scientific study or scholarly article, it's a great layman's explanation firmly grounded in the science for those who want to know more.
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LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I would stand up for my point and explain my history of taking 2 years of anatomy and physiology for nursing school (while also keeping high grades and had honors) and how I trained to be a dietitian for the Air Force so I'm not completely clueless when it comes to knowing about the body, but I don't care anymore and isn't worth it.
Then why would you cite Dr Axe?
I chose that because it was the best one I could find at the moment.
I hope you can see that when you quote sources that are not credible or accurate, you do nothing for your own credibility and leave yourself open to challenges.
Well you are right but I learned what I learned when I was in all of those classes and I don't have the material with me/can't share some of the material online so that makes it a little harder for me to find credible sources to back up what I remember, especially since Google is filled with articles/blogs from who knows where. I just posted a link that agreed with what I said.
I gave you multiple suggestions for legitimate sources. Did you not learn about or use any of these in your education?
Okay. I thought we were over with? I just said you're right and explained why I did what I did?7 -
84 hour starvation test is not long enough to damage your metabolism. The effects would be much like a fasting diet. that reset your "limtoms" This is one of the reasons the fasting diet came about. Yes if your body is been in starvation for long time you damage your organs etc. Well the so called myth go's if your body goes into starvation for a long time (eating under your BMR ) then the food you eat once out of starvation turn or stores as fat to save energy this is the body adjusting and trying to stay alive Most of the literature was from a Number of places. People have called it a myth as there had been no medical studies done due to the danger of Starvation at the same time there had been nothing proved to say it is a myth.7
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