Till Death Do Us Part
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_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »Have you looked into learning some coping skills so you don’t have to go through your life feeling deprived?
There are some good books out there (hope someone will come along with the titles etc), as well as counselling and therapy.
Really, there is no need to spend the next few decades waiting to hit 55 so you can eat the foods you love.
Cheers, h.
Haha! I chuckling over here. Therapy so I can deal with the restrictions of eating steamed broccoli, baked chicken breast, "clean foods?" Anyway you look great! Good work. I guess it's about self-control and what an individual can handle
Middlehaitch has a good point. The therapy isn't so you can deal with the self-imposed restrictions. The therapy is to learn a healthier, more sane way to lose weight/stay fit. If you learn how to not be such a perfectionist in your eating, you won't have to throw in the towel and give up at some point. It's a lesson that took me years to learn.4 -
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I'm 54 now and am probably in as good shape as I've ever been (apart from being too blinking old!). You don't need to eat chicken breast and rice for ever - 'clean' eating is total bollocks. Eat a reasonable variety of food, just not too much of it, do some exercise and you will be fine. I'm not planning on being a fat oldie, there is no need. I drink alcohol, eat cake, bread whatever, but in moderation.7
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For the foreseeable future, I intend to stay active. What happens down the road and whether or not my priorities change, who knows. All I know is that I intend to give myself the best foundation of fitness for now in case I do choose to stay active later.
P.S: I don't need to wait until I "let go" to eat potato chips and cake, so there is that. I expect this to result in more sustainable maintenance.2 -
Ah youth
Hopefully you'll last a lot longer than 55 OP and when you get there you will again hopefully realise that you want to be get even older. I'm 70 and know that to 'let go' as you put it is not a good idea as I want to be as fit an octogenarian, nonagenarian or even centenarian as I can .......NB....I come from a family of long lifers and don't want to let the side down. 4 -
Is 55 deemed old nowadays?
Ohoh.
Feeling great in my late 40s and hope to carry on like that for a long time.2 -
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Ooooh I plan on going to the masters winter games in January. I'm not 90 but I've recruited my 63 year old friend to skate in my synchronized skating team so she can get to experience this event3 -
I'll go until my body says I can't. Why on earth would I want anything else? 59 now, workouts are gaining in intensity...why even think about putting a number on it? Ludicrous
Outta the way, I have mountains to hike and trees to climb lol.12 -
_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »Why, what's the solution Ridgeline Workouts?
Que?
I was asking if there's an age in your later years when you'll stop the fitness routine/calorie counting. I've been thinking about this lately. Like for example if I reach the age of 55, maybe I'll "let go" and will eat potato chips and cake again.
I'm 6 years into maintenance and I eat cake and chips on occasion now, so not quite sure why there needs to be a certain age before one is allowed to eat the foods they enjoy? One of the reasons I've been so successful at hitting my weight and health goals is that I've continued to eat the foods I like, which makes this whole thing sustainable long term, for me.
But to your original question-I'm now in my 40s and 6 years into maintaining my weight loss by controlling my calorie intake. I'm also 6 years into having normalized glucose numbers and I'm the only one in my family who's reversed the progression of prediabetes. I plan on continuing doing what I'm doing, which isn't that big of a fuss, for the rest of my life._RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »Why, what's the solution Ridgeline Workouts?
Que?
I was asking if there's an age in your later years when you'll stop the fitness routine/calorie counting. I've been thinking about this lately. Like for example if I reach the age of 55, maybe I'll "let go" and will eat potato chips and cake again.
Yeah, I missed that last part. I eat potato chips and cake now. I just ate a bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch in milk, portion weighed out on the scale of course. Being fit doesn't mean not eating some yummy treats sometimes.
This all falls back to what I already mentioned about the dam breaking. Not sure if y'all caught it or not. I know a person can keep an aesthetic physique whilst still eating junk food as long as it fits their macros. But I have a tough time limiting myself to just a little bit of junk food. If I have one or two cookies, I may end up eating to whole container. I have to pretty much 100% eliminate junk food to build an aesthetic body. Hence the point of the entire thread - maybe not, but then maybe yes - to just throwing my hands up at a later age, saying "screw it," and stop restricting myself to "clean" foods. Life's to short to worry about appearances and restricting oneself all their God-given life? But hey, to each his/her own
You can teach yourself to moderate foods. I knew I didn't want to give up treats indefinitely, so I decided to learn to moderate. It took a long time. Initially, I would keep those specific foods out of my home (ice cream was probably the worst). Once or twice a week I would pick up a single serving. Once it was gone, that was it. Every once in a while, I would test it by bringing home a few single servings. If they were all consumed in a single day, I knew it wasn't time to try a multi serving container. I continued on with this for a really long time, but it worked. I can now keep ice cream in the house and trust that I will only have a single serving at a time.5 -
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It really depends. I'd like to keep this up for as long as I'm able to BUT if i'm diagnosed with X amounts of left to live, I'm going to LIVE and I'm going to do it with ALL of the carbs4
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I think as you get "older" you realise that you're not as decrepit as you think you were going to be or have seen others.5
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Considering that 55 is just around the corner for me, no way am I about to give up my active lifestyle.
All the activities I do feel like a fountain of youth for me. I haven't had this much energy in years and I'm having so much fun. And I'm not deprived in any way, I can literally fit any food I'd like into my diet. So no, no changes.
Also curious why you picked 55. Is that your perceived notion of old age?0 -
I love back packing, hiking long distance, mountains and getting to the great views on foot. I love oceans and seeing all the fishies with my snorkel and fins, and my paddle board and calm murky Manitoba lakes. I love a soft, powdery field of deep snow to create the first deep snowshoe tracks in, i also love when I have 100lbs held in the air over my head, when there is 200lbs on a bar on my back and when I have just cursed my way through a 7mile run but then the runners high kicks in and I feel so awesome! I see myself doing a good variety of all of these things for as long as I can do them for! Being the granny who lifts, hikes, and cannonballs off the boat is my goal in life!3
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If you're already having the idea that you're likely to stop your fitness routine as you get older, then it sounds like you don't enjoy your routine and aren't interested in committing to it long term. Find activities that you like and are excited about continuing. Figure out ways to fit the foods you like into your calorie goals.6
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I say - I'm now in my sixties and I get some moderate exercise, but nothing as intense as when I was younger. I do eat all the foods, though. No way I care as even half as much about aesthetics as I did in my twenties and thirties. I'm at a 21-22 BMI and that works for me. I'm healthy and that's all I can ask.
You may not live to 55 anyway. I say eat the treats. Work them in. Life is short.4 -
I started at 59 and plan to keep it up as long as I can. After all, good health helps keep you alive and more functional. Why would you want to stop right at the point in life when you start needing all the help you can get?5
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I will be 57 in a couple of months, and while not the lowest weight of my life, I am in the best shape of my life, and plan to continue working towards even better. In other words, I’m just now hitting my stride. I feel awesomeand look great (for me, anyway.) Why in the world would I give up now? I’ve had two pig out days this week, unusual for me, but I don’t eat my excercise calories back, and only about a third of the excercise I do even registers to MFP anyway, for whatever reason, so I figure I’m oodles ahead regardless. I’m loving all this.
After the pig outs, it’s a relief to return to chicken and broccoli. Learn to appreciate them, maybe learn some new cooking techniques to change things up.
Planning to keep strong and carry on!
Btw, I like the guy with the amazing abs over on “success stories” who talked about forcing himself to turn around his attitude. What he did there might benefit you, too. https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10732049/what-strict-diet-and-exercise-has-done-for-me#latest1 -
I can't imagine not wanting to be active. I probably won't be running marathons forever, but if I'm lucky enough to live for a long time I can picture myself being one of those ladies speedwalking on the trail.2
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_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »njitaliana wrote: »_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »That's amazing! I guess I was just thinking that staying lean, the nutrition part can be a bit restrictive for me. I know people say calories in calories out. But self-control is difficult for me, so if I have a little bit of cake or potato chips, it's easy for the dam to completely break. In my latter years I might let go of the vanity of aesthetics, and allow myself to get fat again We shall see.
I don't know why it's amazing to you. I lost 126 lbs when I was 51. I worked out so much in my 50s and early 60s that I got an overuse injury that's still bugging me. I'm still at it at 65, since things like heart attacks, strokes and diabetes are very real concerns at my age, and I don't want to have them. I'm not doing this for aesthetics, but to stay alive and healthy for my family. Being able to wear cute, smaller clothes is just a bonus. One's mindset at my age doesn't change to, "Oh, let me get fat." It changes to, "Let me stay alive, mobile and out of the hospital for my family's sake, because they need me."
And as for cake and chips, the only way for me to lose weight and keep it off is by allowing myself treats to make this way of life sustainable. If I'm always "dieting" and depriving myself, that sets me up for failure. If I'm eating sensibly and that includes some treats in the evening, and some dessert on special occasions, I can keep living this way. There's nothing wrong with a fun homemade meal of 10-15 Beanitos tortilla chips topped with taco seasoned ground turkey, shredded reduced fat cheese, pico, and guacamole. I eat healthily about 90% of the time, so an occasional meal of a burger and fries at a restaurant, or a steak power bowl at Taco Bell, or a breakfast sandwich at a diner is fine.
Hmmmm 🤔
Yeah, I know Jeff Cavaliere - whom I think of as the godfather of fitness - is a strong proponent of "forget the diet" thing because "diets" are temporary and adopt a sustainable eating plan that you can carry out for the rest of your life. I dunno, I guess at this point in my youth I train for aesthetics and good health is just a side effect of the training. Perhaps my thinking will shift if I ever live to see my latter days and I'll start focusing more on health and forget the aesthetics.
And yet Jeff goes to massive trouble to not only outline "diet" plans that are attached to his workout programs, he has tons of dietary information, arguments for/against certain foods and way of eating.
Quite the contrary, if anything Jeff is a huge proponent of just how important proper nutrition in proper amounts is to overall fitness.1 -
I you are looking forward to the day when you can give up the lifestyle you have now then......
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HA! Love itmanderson27 wrote: »I you are looking forward to the day when you can give up the lifestyle you have now then......
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_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »How many of you we'll keep up the fitness routine until your time on this earth is over?
How many of you when you reach a certain age in your later years, will give it up and "let go?"
*blink blink*
But that's how you get to be a healthy older person. That's how to avoid having limited mobility, or becoming really frail, having heart issues and so on. (Sure nothing's an absolute way to avoid age related things - but the betting is on the staying active rather than sitting on the couch.) I don't expect to necessarily be at the same level as I'm at now, and likely have to do gentler workouts...but that's not letting go that's holding on! Why would I want to stop moving?3 -
At 81 I still stay on MFP - track food relatively closely because I do not want that 55 pounds back! I exercise because I enjoy it - and can't wait for warmer weather so I can swim outdoors again. As far as foods go - I too could easily eat a quart of ice cream - and have been known to do it even lately - But I only allow so much weight gain and then back to the straight and narrow! Good luck!18
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I'm 50 and I started losing the pudge I've picked up along the way because of the aesthetics. But as I get more fit and confident, I realize watching my weight and getting/staying strong and agile might allow me to be as or even more active than my parents are when I'm their age. They are 81 and 84 and heading to Costa Rica with their buddies from college. They go on a big trip every year and have a blast. They're great role models for living life to the fullest. 3
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janejellyroll wrote: »I can't imagine not wanting to be active. I probably won't be running marathons forever, but if I'm lucky enough to live for a long time I can picture myself being one of those ladies speedwalking on the trail.
My hope is to keep racing long enough that I’ll outrun the other two or three little old ladies in my age group 5 -
_RidgelineWorkouts_ wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »I hope you won’t feel like that at 55.
I didn’t start working out until I was 54
At 65 I am fit, healthy, and traveling the world doing things I never dreamt I would be doing at 35.
I don’t plan on giving up any time soon, may have to adjust as time goes by.
Cheers, h.Which would you rather be?
Fat, frumpy, and 54 playing wii games, fit, healthy, and 64 sailing the Caribbean snorkling (among other things).
That's amazing! I guess I was just thinking that staying lean, the nutrition part can be a bit restrictive for me. I know people say calories in calories out. But self-control is difficult for me, so if I have a little bit of cake or potato chips, it's easy for the dam to completely break. In my latter years I might let go of the vanity of aesthetics, and allow myself to get fat again We shall see.
Like others have said, there are plenty of health reasons to exercise, especially as we age.
My mother started strength training in her late 70s to preserve bone mass.
RBG works out twice a week so she can continue to work and continue to be independent (a major reason for people going to nursing homes is because they can no longer go to the bathroom unassisted - IOW, lack of strength in the legs.)2 -
AliNouveau wrote: »There are so e odd responses here.
I know people in their 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s staying active. They are awesome and my role models. I'll never give up
Yes, my 81 yo mom is my inspiration, as is a 92 year old woman I met at a wake - this woman does Senior Olympics; the deceased was sedentary.2 -
I hope to keep myself strong and active. I'm 30 (turning 31 this month) and have 3 small kids. I want to be in good health for the rest of my life and also inspire my children. I want them to grow up to be active and strong and consider exercising to be something "normal" and also eating healthy foods and enjoying treats in moderation. I hope to set a good example for them so they can live to their fullest as well. I want to stay around in good health as long as I can to know them for the rest of their lives, and possibly their children's lives, and God willing, great-grandchildren's lives.2
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