Struggling with protein during holidays
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So I’m in a dilemma because I still want to stick to my calories during the holidays. But by sticking to my calories I can’t reach my normal protein levels which are between 100-110g. Normally I eat my own food but right now that relatives are over during Easter holidays I’m eating other food which has more calories. Is it okay to just hit 80-90g of protein as long as I hit my protein goals. It’s only for a week.
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So I’m in a dilemma because I still want to stick to my calories during the holidays. But by sticking to my calories I can’t reach my normal protein levels which are between 100-110g. Normally I eat my own food but right now that relatives are over during Easter holidays I’m eating other food which has more calories. Is it okay to just hit 80-90g of protein as long as I hit my protein goals. It’s only for a week.
Definitely. Enjoy yourself and just let everything fall where it falls. A week won't make any difference.6 -
A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.0
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JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.6 -
One week is a drop in the bucket. I wouldn't spend another second worrying about it.8
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Not a problem at all. Depending on your goals, 80-90 grams would probably be fine on a regular basis. But certainly for a week it's no big deal.4
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JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.10 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.4 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Potatoes are like crazy healthy.6 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
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JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
How exactly are potatoes unhealthy...potatoes are jam packed with nutrition.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
How exactly are potatoes unhealthy...potatoes are jam packed with nutrition.
It's interesting how you're assuming I'm calling potatoes unhealthy here... this is a stupid conversation but nonetheless OP said they were concerned about getting enough protein during a family dinner. My suggestion was take out a filling carb and replace it with more protein that is available to them.
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JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.2 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
How exactly are potatoes unhealthy...potatoes are jam packed with nutrition.
It's interesting how you're assuming I'm calling potatoes unhealthy here... this is a stupid conversation but nonetheless OP said they were concerned about getting enough protein during a family dinner. My suggestion was take out a filling carb and replace it with more protein that is available to them.
Well...when you sayJaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
And then follow that up with...JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
It's a fairly understandable interpretation and assumption...5 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
Man you are so disillusioned, haha. That's okay though.9 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Potatoes are like crazy healthy.
More potassium than a banana, 30% of you RDA for B6, 50% RDA for vitamin C, good source of fiber and iron, and actually pretty decent source of protein for a vegetable.5 -
I know what you mean. I'm heading into Passover now. The only grain I can have is quinoa (unless dealing with matzo meal—ie matzo that has been ground down to powder and then used in place of flour). Culturally, we don't eat legumes—including green beans, peanuts, and legume derivatives like tofu or tempeh—or most seeds. I'm an ovo-lacto vegetarian. Which makes my protein options dairy, eggs, nuts, and quinoa for eight days. I deal, but since I feel fullest on a mix of protein and fiber, I'm totally expecting increased hunger.
Not much I can really do except try to stay on-track and if I fall, get back on after the holiday.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Potatoes are like crazy healthy.
More potassium than a banana, 30% of you RDA for B6, 50% RDA for vitamin C, good source of fiber and iron, and actually pretty decent source of protein for a vegetable.
Had some today
. Honestly I wish I would incorporate them more into my diet but I'm not great with cooking them. 0 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
Man you are so disillusioned, haha. That's okay though.
That's okay. You go ahead and pass on the potatoes. We'll take them and continue to crush our goals.
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JaimeJaimeM wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
How exactly are potatoes unhealthy...potatoes are jam packed with nutrition.
It's interesting how you're assuming I'm calling potatoes unhealthy here... this is a stupid conversation but nonetheless OP said they were concerned about getting enough protein during a family dinner. My suggestion was take out a filling carb and replace it with more protein that is available to them.
It is not stupid. Unlike you some people go too far with "healthy" eating and macro management and it causes them to fail to achieve their goals. Learning to relax is very important for some people.
I like the analogy that our body has a nutrition well. Once that well is full it doesn't matter what else you eat. There is no bonus health level.4 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Potatoes are like crazy healthy.
More potassium than a banana, 30% of you RDA for B6, 50% RDA for vitamin C, good source of fiber and iron, and actually pretty decent source of protein for a vegetable.
Had some today. Honestly I wish I would incorporate them more into my diet but I'm not great with cooking them.
I usually roast red potatoes with skin on. I also have a few good stews and lentil dishes that include potatoes.
It's overcast, cold, and rainy here today and I'm wanting a baked potato for dinner, but my wife is making salmon and roasted broccoli...something we decided on yesterday when it was sunny and pushing 80*1 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
Man you are so disillusioned, haha. That's okay though.
Why would I be disappointed? I am not the one passing on the delicious potatoes.
Today I had a huge salad with tofu on top. I followed that up a little later with a big juicy cheeseburger and a plate of french fries. My health markers will only improve today because I am in a calorie deficit. My mental state is pleased because I had a nice treat.
I eat a good variety of food. My doctor who gives me a small book of blood results every 4 months is increasingly pleased so tell me what I have to be disillusioned over?1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Potatoes are like crazy healthy.
More potassium than a banana, 30% of you RDA for B6, 50% RDA for vitamin C, good source of fiber and iron, and actually pretty decent source of protein for a vegetable.
Had some today. Honestly I wish I would incorporate them more into my diet but I'm not great with cooking them.
I don't find them to be filling for very long which is the only reason I don't eat them more. Sunday I had 2 big loaded baked potatoes and about 2 hours later I was starting to feel hungry again. It is no big deal since I know it will happen and I know how to manage my day when I eat a large amount of them.0 -
JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
This isn’t actually true. If you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Part of that weight loss will be fat. Some of it will be muscle mass, regardless of what you eat. However, eating higher than the recommended daily allowance of protein while in a deficit has been found to help in retaining muscle. If you are older, or recomping, this can be important.
OP, my recommendation would be to eat at maintenance levels while your relatives are here for the holidays. That way you have some wiggle room, and although your weight loss plans may be on hold, at least you know you aren’t going backwards.
As a diabetic, I’m not able to eat as many carbs as I would like during the holidays. What I do is make sure to provide low carb (and thus higher protein and fat) alternatives which are also delicious, so I don’t feel deprived.1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
This isn’t actually true. If you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Part of that weight loss will be fat. Some of it will be muscle mass, regardless of what you eat. However, eating higher than the recommended daily allowance of protein while in a deficit has been found to help in retaining muscle. If you are older, or recomping, this can be important.
OP, my recommendation would be to eat at maintenance levels while your relatives are here for the holidays. That way you have some wiggle room, and although your weight loss plans may be on hold, at least you know you aren’t going backwards.
As a diabetic, I’m not able to eat as many carbs as I would like during the holidays. What I do is make sure to provide low carb (and thus higher protein and fat) alternatives which are also delicious, so I don’t feel deprived.
It is true. You can lose fat within a calorie deficit made up of any food. I was speaking in an extreme to make a point. You can lose weight on the Twinkie diet but you shouldn't actually try it.
Protein is important but it is not something to worry about over short hops of time if you are a little under or even a lot under your goal if you are otherwise healthy.
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Losing fat and losing weight are not the same thing. What you are saying isn’t true no matter how much you repeat it.rheddmobile wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
This isn’t actually true. If you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Part of that weight loss will be fat. Some of it will be muscle mass, regardless of what you eat. However, eating higher than the recommended daily allowance of protein while in a deficit has been found to help in retaining muscle. If you are older, or recomping, this can be important.
OP, my recommendation would be to eat at maintenance levels while your relatives are here for the holidays. That way you have some wiggle room, and although your weight loss plans may be on hold, at least you know you aren’t going backwards.
As a diabetic, I’m not able to eat as many carbs as I would like during the holidays. What I do is make sure to provide low carb (and thus higher protein and fat) alternatives which are also delicious, so I don’t feel deprived.
It is true. You can lose fat within a calorie deficit made up of any food. I was speaking in an extreme to make a point. You can lose weight on the Twinkie diet but you shouldn't actually try it.
Protein is important but it is not something to worry about over short hops of time if you are a little under or even a lot under your goal if you are otherwise healthy.
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rheddmobile wrote: »
Losing fat and losing weight are not the same thing. What you are saying isn’t true no matter how much you repeat it.rheddmobile wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »JaimeJaimeM wrote: »A week of anything is "okay", it's not going to kill you. If you want a higher protein percentage, put more protein available on your plate. If Easter dinner is ham, potatoes, veggies, etc, nix the potatoes and double or triple up on ham. Easy.
You could do that but then you wouldn't be eating any delicious potatoes. I also think it is a bad idea to try and maintain that level of food management. Even eating important things like protein should have a moderation tag.
Completely disagree, but it depends mostly on your mental attitude. Honestly I feel extremely proud and triumphant for passing on delicious but unhealthy foods and opting for something that is going to fuel and nourish my body.
Your body doesn't need or even use 100 percent of whatever you think healthy and nourishing is. Also, potatoes are hardly unhealthy.
If you enjoy your choices and they don't cause you any problems then that is great.
I never said it did? But it 100% affects my mental state. And speaking personally, trying to fine-tune myself from 20% to 18% body fat, yes, the little things start to matter.
A potato on it's own isn't inherently "evil", no, but if we're talking your grandmothers famous butter-smashed potatoes with whole milk and sour cream... you're getting into the weeds here for the sake of digging your heels in.
Butter, milk, and sour cream all have macros and nutrients your body needs.
The only thing that actually matters for your fine-tuning is a calorie deficit. You could eat a diet of all whatever you think evil food is and if you are in a deficit you will lose fat.
This isn’t actually true. If you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Part of that weight loss will be fat. Some of it will be muscle mass, regardless of what you eat. However, eating higher than the recommended daily allowance of protein while in a deficit has been found to help in retaining muscle. If you are older, or recomping, this can be important.
OP, my recommendation would be to eat at maintenance levels while your relatives are here for the holidays. That way you have some wiggle room, and although your weight loss plans may be on hold, at least you know you aren’t going backwards.
As a diabetic, I’m not able to eat as many carbs as I would like during the holidays. What I do is make sure to provide low carb (and thus higher protein and fat) alternatives which are also delicious, so I don’t feel deprived.
It is true. You can lose fat within a calorie deficit made up of any food. I was speaking in an extreme to make a point. You can lose weight on the Twinkie diet but you shouldn't actually try it.
Protein is important but it is not something to worry about over short hops of time if you are a little under or even a lot under your goal if you are otherwise healthy.
oi
It is only not true because you want to bring up muscle which is irrelevant to this discussion. Since fat is a component of weight loss if you don't get super hung up on technicalities everyone should know what is meant. As this discussions is mostly about a short detour in eating habits it is ridiculous to get mired down in the fears of not enough protein and muscle loss.1 -
hobbitses333 wrote: »Many people live their entire lives not meeting their ideal protein intake...you will be fine.
Like me!
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Incidentally, with regard to potatoes, one of my favourite meals is baked potatoes with shredded chicken or tuna, salad and cheese on top. Yummo!0
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hobbitses333 wrote: »Many people live their entire lives not meeting their ideal protein intake...you will be fine.
Like me!
Don't really understand someone being happy about not getting the recommended amount of a nutrient, but each to his/her own.0
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