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The Impossible Whopper: Your thoughts on plant-based burgers?
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »dogWalkerTX wrote: »Impossible Burger 2.0 is good. I wouldn't have known it wasn't meat if I had been served one and wasn't told. Was too expensive though.
The veg burger at Carl's is disgusting. I threw it away. Impossible 1.0?
I hope BK goes national with it. Can't wait to try an Impossible Whopper.
I see on their instagram they are rolling out vegan meat in taco bells. Also chicken nuggets, sausage based breakfast items, etc. in a ton of fast food and chain restaurants. I am interested to try!
This seems like it could be a start toward my nightmare: That all of the restaurants will get rid of all vegan/vegetarian options that are tasty (but don't taste like meat), in favor of ones that "taste just like meat".
I get that this would make a lot of vegans/vegetarians happy, and it's alleged to be good for the planet, which is all very nice, and probably makes it a good thing in the big picture.
In my small picture, as someone who became vegetarian in part because I don't much like meat, it might kind of s**k. I also wonder about the fun that disgruntled, underpaid kitchen staff will have feeding actual meat to vegans because the product is nearly indistinguishable. In my case, that wouldn't cause me moral anxiety, but it could possibly give me some serious digestive distress.
(When I've accidentally eaten something with meat broth, that's sometimes come to my attention because, after nearly 45 years of vegetarianism, my body (or my microbiome?) doesn't seem to handle it all that well. Not true for all veg*ans, but sometimes happens for me. I don't think it's suggestability, because the digestive distress has usually triggered (thus preceded) investigation and discovery, rather than happening after I discover I ate something subtle but meaty. It's pretty hard to tell by flavor if - for example - otherwise strongly flavored soups, sauces, casseroles and the like contain substantial chicken broth.)
I could be wrong, but I don't see this as much of a risk.
I don't think BK would get rid of their non meat options (none of which are burgers, unless I am too out of touch with the menu), as they serve different niches (fries, salads). Same with other fast food type places.
For nicer places, the vegetarian options seem much more variety, and I can't imagine them thinking fake meat serves the same niche. At the least they'd have the other options too. I've been to some veg/vegan places that use seitan and tempeh in various dishes as if they were meat, but also have a huge range of other options for those who do not want that. As for non meat options at the average restaurant, they often have no kind of meat sub used in any of the veg options at all, IMO, so I wouldn't expect them to all have that.0 -
No - just no. I attempt to avoid overly processed foods & fast foods if at all possible. We raise our own beef & have it processed - there's no chemicals in it and it's healthy.5
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psychod787 wrote: »LEAVE MY MEAT ALONE!😤
Adding more non-meat options doesn't remove options for omnivores.
I know... I just thinks it's sad that we have to make veggies into burgers for Americans to eat them... joking btw..3 -
psychod787 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »LEAVE MY MEAT ALONE!😤
Adding more non-meat options doesn't remove options for omnivores.
I know... I just thinks it's sad that we have to make veggies into burgers for Americans to eat them... joking btw..
I know you are joking, but It's not really vegetables... Mainly soy, coconut and sunflower oil, and some other "stuff" to add nutrition or beefiness or whatever.
Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.
https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018937494-What-are-the-ingredients-3 -
Yeah it’s delicious it’s a win win for vegans and vegetarians. I know it’s a strange concept for some, but you can have a tasty sandwich that doesn’t involve paying someone to intentionally hang a animal upside down and slice its throat open for ur taste pleasures. Don’t understand why some people are so defensive about giving others more alternatives and to enjoy the luxury of eating out while still adhering to their values.6
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cayenne_007 wrote: »No - just no. I attempt to avoid overly processed foods & fast foods if at all possible. We raise our own beef & have it processed - there's no chemicals in it and it's healthy.
All matter is made of chemicals.6 -
psychod787 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »LEAVE MY MEAT ALONE!😤
Adding more non-meat options doesn't remove options for omnivores.
I know... I just thinks it's sad that we have to make veggies into burgers for Americans to eat them... joking btw..
Why assume Americans? I can take my Sikh Indian friend who doesn't eat meat to BK and he can have an Impossible Whopper and I'll have a traditional Whopper.
We'll skip the fries and the mayo as those are the real killers4 -
They're a $2 B company. Demand!0
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johnslater461 wrote: »cayenne_007 wrote: »No - just no. I attempt to avoid overly processed foods & fast foods if at all possible. We raise our own beef & have it processed - there's no chemicals in it and it's healthy.
All matter is made of chemicals.
I sell chemical free food. It's crazy expensive because there's no devil gluten or demon GMOs or toxins or anything. Really it's just an empty box, because that's all you get without chemicals. But it's a $100 empty box with a lot of bullet points on the label.
I guess to be honest the box is made of chemicals.3 -
NorthCascades wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »cayenne_007 wrote: »No - just no. I attempt to avoid overly processed foods & fast foods if at all possible. We raise our own beef & have it processed - there's no chemicals in it and it's healthy.
All matter is made of chemicals.
I sell chemical free food. It's crazy expensive because there's no devil gluten or demon GMOs or toxins or anything. Really it's just an empty box, because that's all you get without chemicals. But it's a $100 empty box with a lot of bullet points on the label.
I guess to be honest the box is made of chemicals.
The air inside the box is also chemikillz.
False advertising.5 -
tbright1965 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »LEAVE MY MEAT ALONE!😤
Adding more non-meat options doesn't remove options for omnivores.
I know... I just thinks it's sad that we have to make veggies into burgers for Americans to eat them... joking btw..
Why assume Americans? I can take my Sikh Indian friend who doesn't eat meat to BK and he can have an Impossible Whopper and I'll have a traditional Whopper.
We'll skip the fries and the mayo as those are the real killers
It was satire.... I guess I am going to have to build a safe space around me...2 -
psychod787 wrote: »
It was satire.... I guess I am going to have to build a safe space around me...
Sorry, can't really tell if something is satire or genuine taking of offense these days.
There really needs to be a satire/sarcasm font...0 -
tbright1965 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »
It was satire.... I guess I am going to have to build a safe space around me...
Sorry, can't really tell if something is satire or genuine taking of offense these days.
There really needs to be a satire/sarcasm font...
ThErE iS oNe BuT iT's NoT eAsY oN tHe EyEs. (and a pain to write)2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »tbright1965 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »
It was satire.... I guess I am going to have to build a safe space around me...
Sorry, can't really tell if something is satire or genuine taking of offense these days.
There really needs to be a satire/sarcasm font...
ThErE iS oNe BuT iT's NoT eAsY oN tHe EyEs. (and a pain to write)
I woulda though Psych saying "joking btw" was at least as clear as a satire font, but I guess that's just me.3 -
Because apparently I fail at reading.
Yes, it was totally my fail.
DOH!amusedmonkey wrote: »tbright1965 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »
It was satire.... I guess I am going to have to build a safe space around me...
Sorry, can't really tell if something is satire or genuine taking of offense these days.
There really needs to be a satire/sarcasm font...
ThErE iS oNe BuT iT's NoT eAsY oN tHe EyEs. (and a pain to write)
I woulda though Psych saying "joking btw" was at least as clear as a satire font, but I guess that's just me.
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"GMO Impossible Burger tests 11x higher for Glyphosate weed killer residue than Beyond Meat burger."
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gmo-impossible-burger-positive-carcinogenic-glyphosate8 -
"GMO Impossible Burger tests 11x higher for Glyphosate weed killer residue than Beyond Meat burger."
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gmo-impossible-burger-positive-carcinogenic-glyphosate
That alleged study is done by "Mom's across America" which is a fringe anti-gmo conspiracy group who hawks their own quack supplements to purify your gut and all that nonsense.
But if you want to talk about things that are carcinogenic, raise your hand if you know which part of a beef burger has been labeled "probably carcinogenic" by the World Health Organization?
Psst.. It's the beef.
I don't have anything against beef and eat plenty of it myself, but best not to resort to fringe carcinogen scare mongering when beef has its own issues.14 -
I never go to Burger King for anything, ever. I like black bean burgers, mushroom burgers, don’t like soy burgers. But that could be because I love black beans and mushrooms, don’t like soy. I am definitely a meat eater, and veggie burgers will definitely never replace beef burgers for me. I just see them as an occasional alternative.
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"GMO Impossible Burger tests 11x higher for Glyphosate weed killer residue than Beyond Meat burger."
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gmo-impossible-burger-positive-carcinogenic-glyphosate
All of your posts here are very agenda-driven.12 -
I would also be curious to see how processed it is/ what the ingredients are. I struggle to eat a lot of protein so that would be a concern for me, personally.
I think the idea is very interesting. A and W has Beyond Meat burgers and Beyond Meat breakfast sausage sandwiches. I have only tried the burger. To be fair, I can't remember what A and W beef burgers taste like but this vegetarian one got the job done.
Tim Hortons is testing out Beyond Meat breakfast sandwiches.. I think its somewhat of a craze, which I support if it will improve environmental impacts...Particularly, in a healthful way. I, personally, would be willing to pay a dollar more for something I felt was a superior product whether that be environmentally or in taste. I don't see a downside to greater consumer choice.
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