BUILD MY OWN WORKOUT
jeromeloresco05
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so own my non running days I just started doing this workout
row machine: 15mins
Round 1
pull ups: 3 sets of 5 reps
push up: 3/10
dumbbell squat: 40lbs 3/8 (no barbell on the gym)
Round 2
cable row: 3/8
dumbbell press: 25/30/35lbs progression 3/8
deadlift: 30/35/40lbs progression 3/8
What do you think?
row machine: 15mins
Round 1
pull ups: 3 sets of 5 reps
push up: 3/10
dumbbell squat: 40lbs 3/8 (no barbell on the gym)
Round 2
cable row: 3/8
dumbbell press: 25/30/35lbs progression 3/8
deadlift: 30/35/40lbs progression 3/8
What do you think?
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I think you should use an established program so you're not spinning your wheels. Try one of these, https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you8
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I am by no means an expert on fitness but I got bored going to the gym everyday and doing structured workouts so I base my workouts by how my body feels that day. I like to just make up a workout right after I take my pre-workout drink. I never workout more than 1 hour and I like to split it up between cardio and strength training. Change it up to keep your body guessing and keep things interesting. If what you are doing makes you feel good and you are getting the results you like stick with it. Some people over think fitness and diet programs. Set realistic goals and keep focused. Best of luck!!7
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gearhead426hemi wrote: »I am by no means an expert on fitness but I got bored going to the gym everyday and doing structured workouts so I base my workouts by how my body feels that day. I like to just make up a workout right after I take my pre-workout drink. I never workout more than 1 hour and I like to split it up between cardio and strength training. Change it up to keep your body guessing and keep things interesting. If what you are doing makes you feel good and you are getting the results you like stick with it. Some people over think fitness and diet programs. Set realistic goals and keep focused. Best of luck!!
It's find to change your routine if you don't enjoy it, and training a range of activities can contribute to well-rounded general fitness, but this "keep your body guessing" idea is a bit of a pet peeve. There's no basis in evidence.
Elite athletes don't "keep their bodies guessing" to improve their performance, they follow sensible, professionally-designed plans that have been proven successful. Moreover, the monstrous amounts of calories that elite endurance athletes need to eat to maintain weight/strength ought to be a clear clue that their bodies haven't "gotten used to the exercise and stopped burning calories" even though they've been doing the same activities for years to decades.
Call me cynical, but this "body confusion" "keep your body guessing" kind of stuff seems to be promulgated by Beachbody, Fitspo IG-ers, bloggers, and others of that ilk, to keep selling people different fitness programs, equipment, accessories, etc.
People who put a priority on fitness or performance improvement should use good, professionally-designed proven programs (which are available for free for many popular sports/activities). People who are mainly interested in weight loss should - IMO - figure out what they enjoy doing, and do it (because any exercise we enjoy, we'll do rather than put off and avoid; and any imperfect exercise we actually do burns more calories than a theoretically perfect exercise that we never much get around to actually doing).
OP, if you want to go the "sound program" route for most efficient fitness improvement, the link VioletRojo suggested is excellent. If you prefer to stick with what you enjoy to priortize enjoyment and therefore compliance, then a program you design is just fine.
Best wishes!14 -
I like doing my own workouts because I am able to tell myself that I chose those workouts, therefore I better finish every last one.
I’ve tried workout videos and by the end of the week I’m either turning my rest day into a forever rest or not putting effort into it.
But that’s just me. I know my mind and my body and I know what workouts I need to do to keep seeing progress.
If it works for you then go for it. If you stop seeing results change it up and if that still doesn’t give you results then try whatever the above people suggested.
As for me, I like changing it up or I will get bored.2 -
I write my own plans now. But this is after years of following plans coaches provided for me so now I have a decent enough idea of how to build a plan.
I change it every 6-8 weeks because I get bored.
I also dislike that "keep your body guessing and confused" thing. That being said though, I often run periodised programs where the rep/set ranges will change each week. Same exercises though.
At the end of the day, unless you have specific strength or sculpting goals, do whatever makes you happy and keeps your moving.3 -
I wrote my own program, too, but it combines elements of highly rated established programs, including Strong Lifts 5x5 and New Rules of Lifting For Women. I can’t do some of the exercises exactly as prescribed in those programs, so I’ve substituted others, and tailored the progression to my needs.2
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I basically do my own workouts. Tried doing structured programs, but the gym I go to is too busy when I can go to follow a structured program. I try to work the same muscle groups, but may have to substitute a machine for barbell and dumb bell work. Try to progressively load for a few weeks with heavier weight and lower reps, then deload with lighter weight and higher reps.0
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The best workout is the one you can stick to - so until your goals really need a focus and a shift, stick with what just makes you feel good. A time will come where it will need to be structured but for now theres really no harm in just going with what you like and can sustain.0
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I've written my own workouts in the past but this was after years of doing other workouts, hours of watching videos and reading articles and looking to the experts. I do still occasionally do my own workouts when I want to shake things up.
Also, I agree with the others on the "keep your body guessing" belief. It's not really a thing with your body. Just progressively overload and you're good.2 -
gearhead426hemi wrote: »I am by no means an expert on fitness but I got bored going to the gym everyday and doing structured workouts so I base my workouts by how my body feels that day. I like to just make up a workout right after I take my pre-workout drink. I never workout more than 1 hour and I like to split it up between cardio and strength training. Change it up to keep your body guessing and keep things interesting. If what you are doing makes you feel good and you are getting the results you like stick with it. Some people over think fitness and diet programs. Set realistic goals and keep focused. Best of luck!!
It's find to change your routine if you don't enjoy it, and training a range of activities can contribute to well-rounded general fitness, but this "keep your body guessing" idea is a bit of a pet peeve. There's no basis in evidence.
Elite athletes don't "keep their bodies guessing" to improve their performance, they follow sensible, professionally-designed plans that have been proven successful. Moreover, the monstrous amounts of calories that elite endurance athletes need to eat to maintain weight/strength ought to be a clear clue that their bodies haven't "gotten used to the exercise and stopped burning calories" even though they've been doing the same activities for years to decades.
Call me cynical, but this "body confusion" "keep your body guessing" kind of stuff seems to be promulgated by Beachbody, Fitspo IG-ers, bloggers, and others of that ilk, to keep selling people different fitness programs, equipment, accessories, etc.
People who put a priority on fitness or performance improvement should use good, professionally-designed proven programs (which are available for free for many popular sports/activities). People who are mainly interested in weight loss should - IMO - figure out what they enjoy doing, and do it (because any exercise we enjoy, we'll do rather than put off and avoid; and any imperfect exercise we actually do burns more calories than a theoretically perfect exercise that we never much get around to actually doing).
OP, if you want to go the "sound program" route for most efficient fitness improvement, the link VioletRojo suggested is excellent. If you prefer to stick with what you enjoy to priortize enjoyment and therefore compliance, then a program you design is just fine.
Best wishes!
I always like the people who say I don't agree with "body confusion" but they follow that statement up with "I just change my reps or sets" which in itself is muscle confusion.
Professional athletes only train for 1 specific thing. Running, biking, swimming, body building, whatever their actual profession is. The other 99% of us who aren't and never will be professional athletes should train for real life overall fitness. Keeping your body guessing and trying different movements or workouts will help you find your weaknesses thus giving you overall well rounded fitness and strength. I have a friend who competes in bodybuilding competitions and is strong as an ox in the gym. He can bench 400+ pounds so I challenged him to come to my farm and buck hay off my fields with my family he was exhausted in a little over an hour. My son who has never stepped foot in the gym weighs 150 pounds soaking wet can buck 60-80 pound hay bales over his head for 5-6 hours straight, grab lunch and go back out for another 5-6 hours.
Now I am in no way saying professional athletes aren't in amazing shape but they train for 1 specific thing so they have no need to train for overall fitness. Now if you are training for one specific thing then by all means follow a structured workout routine.
My opinion is train for your lifestyle and what your own personal goals are. As soon as you feel you are at the top of you game and in the best shape you have ever been I challenge you try something you have never done and I promise you will be humbled. Hay season is upon us so anyone feeling frisky can come to my farm and buck hay to test your overall fitness. My neighbors would love some help as well.
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gearhead426hemi wrote: »gearhead426hemi wrote: »I am by no means an expert on fitness but I got bored going to the gym everyday and doing structured workouts so I base my workouts by how my body feels that day. I like to just make up a workout right after I take my pre-workout drink. I never workout more than 1 hour and I like to split it up between cardio and strength training. Change it up to keep your body guessing and keep things interesting. If what you are doing makes you feel good and you are getting the results you like stick with it. Some people over think fitness and diet programs. Set realistic goals and keep focused. Best of luck!!
It's find to change your routine if you don't enjoy it, and training a range of activities can contribute to well-rounded general fitness, but this "keep your body guessing" idea is a bit of a pet peeve. There's no basis in evidence.
Elite athletes don't "keep their bodies guessing" to improve their performance, they follow sensible, professionally-designed plans that have been proven successful. Moreover, the monstrous amounts of calories that elite endurance athletes need to eat to maintain weight/strength ought to be a clear clue that their bodies haven't "gotten used to the exercise and stopped burning calories" even though they've been doing the same activities for years to decades.
Call me cynical, but this "body confusion" "keep your body guessing" kind of stuff seems to be promulgated by Beachbody, Fitspo IG-ers, bloggers, and others of that ilk, to keep selling people different fitness programs, equipment, accessories, etc.
People who put a priority on fitness or performance improvement should use good, professionally-designed proven programs (which are available for free for many popular sports/activities). People who are mainly interested in weight loss should - IMO - figure out what they enjoy doing, and do it (because any exercise we enjoy, we'll do rather than put off and avoid; and any imperfect exercise we actually do burns more calories than a theoretically perfect exercise that we never much get around to actually doing).
OP, if you want to go the "sound program" route for most efficient fitness improvement, the link VioletRojo suggested is excellent. If you prefer to stick with what you enjoy to priortize enjoyment and therefore compliance, then a program you design is just fine.
Best wishes!
I always like the people who say I don't agree with "body confusion" but they follow that statement up with "I just change my reps or sets" which in itself is muscle confusion.
Professional athletes only train for 1 specific thing. Running, biking, swimming, body building, whatever their actual profession is. The other 99% of us who aren't and never will be professional athletes should train for real life overall fitness. Keeping your body guessing and trying different movements or workouts will help you find your weaknesses thus giving you overall well rounded fitness and strength. I have a friend who competes in bodybuilding competitions and is strong as an ox in the gym. He can bench 400+ pounds so I challenged him to come to my farm and buck hay off my fields with my family he was exhausted in a little over an hour. My son who has never stepped foot in the gym weighs 150 pounds soaking wet can buck 60-80 pound hay bales over his head for 5-6 hours straight, grab lunch and go back out for another 5-6 hours.
Now I am in no way saying professional athletes aren't in amazing shape but they train for 1 specific thing so they have no need to train for overall fitness. Now if you are training for one specific thing then by all means follow a structured workout routine.
My opinion is train for your lifestyle and what your own personal goals are. As soon as you feel you are at the top of you game and in the best shape you have ever been I challenge you try something you have never done and I promise you will be humbled. Hay season is upon us so anyone feeling frisky can come to my farm and buck hay to test your overall fitness. My neighbors would love some help as well.
I think you underestimate professional athletes across a range of sports, frankly. (I'm most familiar with elite rowers, but the Crossfitters do spring to mind in this regard. One of the fittest regular farm guys I know has also been a gymnast and Crossfitter. Haying only comes for a short time once a year, in our climate.)
But, to the bolded: "Muscle confusion" is just vague handwaving - no helpful information. That's the point.
Changing reps/sets/load to achieve particular goals has (ideally) reasoning behind it, to accomplish particular effects, and to continue making progress. Changing activities to accomplish well-rounded fitness (choosing activities to better emphasize speed, agility, flexibility, strength, explosive power, etc.) is reasonable, but also isn't random "confusion". And doing physical work is something I respect, in itself: Kind of the pinnacle, in my mind, what bodies were made for, vs. the over-respect that's sometimes given to exercise-for-its-own-sake.
But changing things randomly is pointless. Changing things to stay more interested/engaged, have more fun, work on weakness or optimize strengths, to broaden fitness range, etc., is far from pointless. My argument is that people should do things for a reason(s), not to "confuse their body".
Thank you for your offer to buck hay - an activity I appreciate, having grown up in farm country (though my activity was much more likely to be hauling and stacking the cordwood we sold, so much lighter duty ). Sadly, I think it's not a particularly useful thing to take on at my age and stage (63 y/o woman with some "issues"). I don't need it in order to be "humbled", either: Other things in my life have accomplished that pretty well, if it was ever an issue. I know how much work haying is, and respect the strength and endurance it takes. I'm also more than aware of my limitatations, and motivated to work around them. (I routinely try things I've never done, BTW, including things I'm afraid of, as long as I'm pretty sure they won't aggravate existing injuries.)
I'm not dissing your exercise, your fitness, or your routine. I'm saying that advising people to "switch things up to keep your body guessing" is more confusing (intellectually) than helpful (in a practical sense). Marketers use that terminology to baffle, and sell more products. Why help them?
I probably don't have an argument with your thinking at all, in general. But I've been on waaaay too many threads here where someone has stalled in weight loss, and someone waltzes in with "you need to switch up activities, confuse your body, confuse your muscles, once your body gets used to an exercise it stops burning calories" and similar unhelpful, nonspecific tangents. So, admittedly, I'm probably a little kneejerk about those words. Apologies. :flowerforyou:
ETA: I'm explicitly not one of the people who woo-ed your post.8 -
gearhead426hemi wrote: »I always like the people who say I don't agree with "body confusion" but they follow that statement up with "I just change my reps or sets" which in itself is muscle confusion.
Professional athletes only train for 1 specific thing. Running, biking, swimming, body building, whatever their actual profession is. The other 99% of us who aren't and never will be professional athletes should train for real life overall fitness. Keeping your body guessing and trying different movements or workouts will help you find your weaknesses thus giving you overall well rounded fitness and strength.
Two things. When people say "body confusion" they're typically talking about different exercises all together, not a change in sets, reps, or weight. Second, as Ann said, you're misunderstanding how professional/elite athletes train and underestimating the number of multi-sport athletes that exist. You've got disciplines like triathlon, duathlon, nordic combined, the various multi-discipline track and field events, etc. Then you've also got various athletes who do "crossover sports" ie cyclists who are also speed skaters (sometimes at elite international levels) and people who have swiftly moved from being an elite athlete in one sport to being an elite athlete in another. Most athletes also do some sort of cross training which isn't about "confusing" their bodies.4 -
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Don't think I was attacking you or even offended the slightest about any of your comments. Life is entirely to short to be offended by what people say. I just suggest people do whatever keeps them active, healthy and happy. Be realistic with goals and expectations and live life.2 -
Exactly what mental capacity do people think their bodies use to "guess"? Do their bodies have second brains that make "guesses" about the decisions the first brain makes about what exercise program to pursue?
Bodies respond to stimuli. They don't guess.5 -
gearhead426hemi wrote: »I am by no means an expert on fitness but I got bored going to the gym everyday and doing structured workouts so I base my workouts by how my body feels that day. I like to just make up a workout right after I take my pre-workout drink. I never workout more than 1 hour and I like to split it up between cardio and strength training. Change it up to keep your body guessing and keep things interesting. If what you are doing makes you feel good and you are getting the results you like stick with it. Some people over think fitness and diet programs. Set realistic goals and keep focused. Best of luck!!
This is what the famous trainer Mark Rippletoe refers to a F*ckarounditis. It's usually pretty ineffective. And, you body is pretty much never guessing. It's adapting sometimes but it's never guessing. Just sayin'...gearhead426hemi wrote: »I always like the people who say I don't agree with "body confusion" but they follow that statement up with "I just change my reps or sets" which in itself is muscle confusion.
Professional athletes only train for 1 specific thing. Running, biking, swimming, body building, whatever their actual profession is. The other 99% of us who aren't and never will be professional athletes should train for real life overall fitness. Keeping your body guessing and trying different movements or workouts will help you find your weaknesses thus giving you overall well rounded fitness and strength.
Two things. When people say "body confusion" they're typically talking about different exercises all together, not a change in sets, reps, or weight. Second, as Ann said, you're misunderstanding how professional/elite athletes train and underestimating the number of multi-sport athletes that exist. You've got disciplines like triathlon, duathlon, nordic combined, the various multi-discipline track and field events, etc. Then you've also got various athletes who do "crossover sports" ie cyclists who are also speed skaters (sometimes at elite international levels) and people who have swiftly moved from being an elite athlete in one sport to being an elite athlete in another. Most athletes also do some sort of cross training which isn't about "confusing" their bodies.
Call it what you want adapting, cross training, guessing whatever, they all refer to different ways making your body adapt to whatever work you are attempting to perform. By attempting work that you normally do not perform your body will let you know your weaknesses. Muscle soreness, exhaustion, cramping are all signs that your body is telling you whatever we did yesterday was not part of the original plan. When you hit plateaus in fitness you either stay happy at that level or you have to adapt to take it to the next level.1 -
My completely layman, entirely non-scientific and utterly amateurish thoughts on 'body confusion' is that the initial gains in strength from training a particular movement come from improvements in the brain and nervous system.
Rather than your muscles getting stronger leading to better performance it's more that your brain and nervous system gets 'smarter' or better at using the existing muscles.
Once this initial neurological performance improvement has happened and progress slows down to the rate of muscle growth people find that 'switching things up' by using different movements lets them tap back into those rapid nervous system improvements.
So I guess in a sense it's less 'body confusion' and more 'nervous system confusion'.
Again, I stress this is just my wholly dilettante observation so I could be wildly and spectacularly off base1 -
My completely layman, entirely non-scientific and utterly amateurish thoughts on 'body confusion' is that the initial gains in strength from training a particular movement come from improvements in the brain and nervous system.
Rather than your muscles getting stronger leading to better performance it's more that your brain and nervous system gets 'smarter' or better at using the existing muscles.
Once this initial neurological performance improvement has happened and progress slows down to the rate of muscle growth people find that 'switching things up' by using different movements lets them tap back into those rapid nervous system improvements.
So I guess in a sense it's less 'body confusion' and more 'nervous system confusion'.
Again, I stress this is just my wholly dilettante observation so I could be wildly and spectacularly off base
There is some accuracy to what you say based on neuromuscular adaptation as it relates to strength improvements. I was just recently listening to an Eric Helms podcast where the idea of having to change up your program to force adaptations for muscle growth came up and he basically said it was nonsense. If you keep progressing with a well designed program, you can do it indefinitely. At a certain point, the progress will slow due to reaching your genetic potential and you may need advanced strategies. But for the average amateur, we rarely get there.
But the whole body confusion thing is nonsense. As is the idea that to follow a well designed program only for people training for specific sports. There are plenty of full body strength and hypertrophy programs that are generalized and not sport specific that are highly effective. PHUL and PHAT come immediately to mind as examples.
There are plenty of reasons to change up your program, boredom being the primary one. Also, some people, particularly body builders will switch up their focus to achieve a certain aesthetic look as an example. But the "I make it up as I go" approach is not typically (read never) an effective one. But hey, if someone is happy doing it that way, go for it!2 -
Just to clarify I'm not saying that muscle confusion is a real thing.
More that people have misunderstood the quick progress gained from neuromuscular adaptation (thanks for that term) they experience when they 'change things up' and perform new movements and labelled it 'body confusion'. They tell someone, who tells someone else and before you know it, it's spread and become 'a thing'3 -
Just to clarify I'm not saying that muscle confusion is a real thing.
More that people have misunderstood the quick progress gained from neuromuscular adaptation (thanks for that term) they experience when they 'change things up' and perform new movements and labelled it 'body confusion'. They tell someone, who tells someone else and before you know it, it's spread and become 'a thing'
Yes, understand and agree on all counts.0 -
jeromeloresco05 wrote: »so own my non running days I just started doing this workout
row machine: 15mins
Round 1
pull ups: 3 sets of 5 reps
push up: 3/10
dumbbell squat: 40lbs 3/8 (no barbell on the gym)
Round 2
cable row: 3/8
dumbbell press: 25/30/35lbs progression 3/8
deadlift: 30/35/40lbs progression 3/8
What do you think?
It looks good. Not sure of the hate. You've got a lower body push and pull including hinge, plus an upper body vertical/horizontal push and pull. Exercise selection looks good as it should not impede your ability to recover and improve at running, which I assume is your main goal.2 -
thank you all.0
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