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carolannemckay
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I always thought weight gain was a result of to many calories & not enough exercise !
carolannemckay
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I am on a lot of sites & people say they DO NOT EAT & still gain weight ? It could be true to an extent. If your thyroid is a problem your BMR is slower & burning calories is also effected. Anyway, I think the people trying to sell this get slim fast programs must be misleading desperate to lose weight people
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Even a thyroid problem will only affect your calorie needs to a small extent, making weight loss more difficult. If it causes weight gain, it's water retention, not fat gain.
When I first started trying to lose weight I was SURE I was barely eating 1400 cals, more active than most, not losing anything. I got a food scale and realized I was actually eating 1800 cals. I got a Fitbit and realized I was barely getting 5000 steps a day. Most folks are really bad at being honest with themselves about how much they eat and move!
Weight gain can be a result of water retention/bloating or a digestive blockage. Weight gain due to fat gain IS a result of too many calories
Not buying into the junk science perpetuated by people who simply can not track/log accurately/consistently
in this study
Champagne, C.M., et al. Energy intake and energy expenditure: a controlled study comparing dietitians and non-dietitians. J. Am. Diet. Assoc. 102(10:1428-1432, 2001.
even dietitians significantly underreported their daily calorie intakes (by as much as 500-800 cal/day)
We're not at war. Everyday, we're surrounded by delicious food that doesn't cost much and is easy to get. I don't know about you but I can forget what I had for breakfast some days. I for sure can't keep track of what foods and serving sizes I had throughout the day including snacks I eat mindlessly sometimes. Excel is good for keeping track of numbers, people aren't.
Anyway the point I'm making is that people in the first world aren't really not eating at all and gaining weight. If that was a thing, starvation wouldn't be.
No. Your thyroid modulates metabolism by a very small degree ~5% from all objective evidence.
Hormones are free cycling, so thinking of your body as a volume of water the primary driver is your volume. Many previously thought that weight gain was caused by diminished hormones, but it becoming more likely that thyroid issues are down stream of weight gain. If you are overweight you are putting an incredible amount of stress on the endocrine system and having the associated glands doubling efforts to try to maintain hormonal balance.
I had a total thyroidectomy in 2000 - gained and lost weight at a rate similar to everyone else before and after managing caloric intake and output.
It also depends on what they eat as well. - hamburger and a Coke/Pepsi it may not seem as much, but at 700 calories per meal could add up.
The bottom line is that unless someone is using a food scale for everything, they cannot be taken at their word when they make claims such as this. CICO works for everyone.
This is just..... so wrong
This is not possible. If your BMR is, say, 1200, and you move at all, how is it possible to both fuel all the functions that you need to and store fat?
Also, why does this never happen to people who starve to death?
Strong first post. Unfortunately, it's also filled with nonsense because you're trolling.
So much of this just isn't true.
Your doctor is wrong. And how do you think people actually starve to death?
And, just in case they're not trolling because first time posters usually have much to learn...
You didn't pay attention to what you were eating so weren't weighing and logging foods and probably didn't know about calorie goals so most likely were eating calorie dense food that took you over maintenance. Less food/more calories/weight gain.
In rena49202’s defense, and oh I’m sure people will woo me on this (and that’s totally fine)... Yes, it HAS in fact been told to people that if they don’t eat enough calories their bodies go into “starvation mode” and store as fat.
NOW, to debate whether or not this is accurate, makes sense or is logical (biological, physiological, etc.), THAT is another story. But I found the poster to be totally believable as it was told. Because it in fact had been told to me a long time ago. So I didn’t see it as tolling at all.
I also agree with Glassyo that many new members (ME included) have a LOT to learn, so I hope this a good place to gather good information as well as kind support from others.
I turned 50 today, and SO MUCH of fitness and nutrition has changed since I was in my 20’s & 30’s and really actively into fitness. Terms that I see used today in this forum were not mainstream or widely used back in my day. It’s a struggle to figure it all out, especially if one’s fallen out of shape over a length of time. (I wish to lose around 40 lbs.) And also because there’s conflicting, contradictory information (or simply varying opinions) on the Internet. It’s hard to know what’s right, or the right way to approach getting in shape.
But, I’ve been checking around this app, and logging my food and I’m down 3.8 lbs. I also exercise (weights and cardio, not on the same day). So I’m going to keep it up and see how it goes.
Anyway, I look forward to learning a lot from my food diary, the blog, and this community/friends.
Wishing everyone a peaceful day!
I based my trolling assumption on the bold claims coupled with being a member since 2014 but only posting once on the forums. Strong assumption on my part but we do have someone here with several accounts who makes similar claims over and over again.
You're right, starvation mode is one of those pesky myths that have been floating around for a long time. The difference between you and the other poster is that you're not claiming that you were always a non eater who suddenly gained weight and found it so hard to even eat 1200 calories per day. That's where my trolling senses were alerted because of the multi-account user I mentioned above. Nobody gets to be 70 pounds overweight struggling to eat 1200 calories and barely eating every day. Then not losing weight on 1200 plus exercise for two months? Inaccurate claims from someone not accurately tracking their calorie intake. A new poster with a lot to learn who knows they have a lot to learn normally doesn't make such bold claims off the bat like that but again, my assumption based on forum history and not infallible.
This is definitely a good place to gather info and kind support from others, especially by reading the stickies in the General section. This forum is great for driving the point home that everyone can lose weight, that CICO will always apply, and counting calories works if you're honest and as accurate as possible.