Why is so little attention given to maintenance?
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@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.3 -
MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.
Well @MadisonMolly2017, I don't trust fitness trackers. They can have a large margin of error. Remember, there is SOME RMR slowing with weight loss. There is also less energy spent per contraction of muscle. Kevin Hall's BWP has your maintenance at 2100 cals. PAL of 1.8, roughly 14000 steps a day. thats taking into account the predicted metabolic slowing because of weight loss. I would make some suggestions told to me by multiple experts. Increase protein. Intakes of 25-30% tdee have shown to have spontaneous reduction in calories in overweight people. Decrease caloric density. Less nuts, more fruits and veggies. Don't add much oil to your food. Let it come from natural sources such as meat, eggs, dairy... ect. I will say I follow those rules and fill up fast. Problem for me is staying sated. I get pangs in my stomach an 1hr after eating much of the time. Have a gnawing sensation 1/2 the day or so. Oh, but its a little better 16lbs later. Trust me. I can actually get full! Hope its not the best it gets. Mabe consider maintaining it for a while. If you are not having the pangs and gnawing. JMHO. Leptin, she's a real B@astard! I am willing to press into the 245-255lbs range, currently 191 this am, if it means feeling better and not being an anal retentive @-hole. Whats your price? wanted to add, fat regain to lean mass in one study I read was 1kg of weight .76kg fm to /.26kg ffm when losing. During regain its .88kg fm to .12kg ffm. could be why its underestimating calories. We know FFM has a greater caloric expenditure 7 cals a pound vs 2 cals a pound for FM. Most likely not enough for what your speaking of, but of thought.2 -
psychod787 wrote: »MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.
Well @MadisonMolly2017, I don't trust fitness trackers. They can have a large margin of error. Remember, there is SOME RMR slowing with weight loss. There is also less energy spent per contraction of muscle. Kevin Hall's BWP has your maintenance at 2100 cals. PAL of 1.8, roughly 14000 steps a day. thats taking into account the predicted metabolic slowing because of weight loss. I would make some suggestions told to me by multiple experts. Increase protein. Intakes of 25-30% tdee have shown to have spontaneous reduction in calories in overweight people. Decrease caloric density. Less nuts, more fruits and veggies. Don't add much oil to your food. Let it come from natural sources such as meat, eggs, dairy... ect. I will say I follow those rules and fill up fast. Problem for me is staying sated. I get pangs in my stomach an 1hr after eating much of the time. Have a gnawing sensation 1/2 the day or so. Oh, but its a little better 16lbs later. Trust me. I can actually get full! Hope its not the best it gets. Mabe consider maintaining it for a while. If you are not having the pangs and gnawing. JMHO. Leptin, she's a real B@astard! I am willing to press into the 245-255lbs range, currently 191 this am, if it means feeling better and not being an anal retentive @-hole. Whats your price? wanted to add, fat regain to lean mass in one study I read was 1kg of weight .76kg fm to /.26kg ffm when losing. During regain its .88kg fm to .12kg ffm. could be why its underestimating calories. We know FFM has a greater caloric expenditure 7 cals a pound vs 2 cals a pound for FM. Most likely not enough for what your speaking of, but of thought.
Bottom line: There is NOT an app for losing weight. We have to STOP eating like mindless....wait....humans are the only creatures that will kill ourselves through food. Literally.3 -
psychod787 wrote: »MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.
Well @MadisonMolly2017, I don't trust fitness trackers. They can have a large margin of error. Remember, there is SOME RMR slowing with weight loss. There is also less energy spent per contraction of muscle. Kevin Hall's BWP has your maintenance at 2100 cals. PAL of 1.8, roughly 14000 steps a day. thats taking into account the predicted metabolic slowing because of weight loss. I would make some suggestions told to me by multiple experts. Increase protein. Intakes of 25-30% tdee have shown to have spontaneous reduction in calories in overweight people. Decrease caloric density. Less nuts, more fruits and veggies. Don't add much oil to your food. Let it come from natural sources such as meat, eggs, dairy... ect. I will say I follow those rules and fill up fast. Problem for me is staying sated. I get pangs in my stomach an 1hr after eating much of the time. Have a gnawing sensation 1/2 the day or so. Oh, but its a little better 16lbs later. Trust me. I can actually get full! Hope its not the best it gets. Mabe consider maintaining it for a while. If you are not having the pangs and gnawing. JMHO. Leptin, she's a real B@astard! I am willing to press into the 245-255lbs range, currently 191 this am, if it means feeling better and not being an anal retentive @-hole. Whats your price? wanted to add, fat regain to lean mass in one study I read was 1kg of weight .76kg fm to /.26kg ffm when losing. During regain its .88kg fm to .12kg ffm. could be why its underestimating calories. We know FFM has a greater caloric expenditure 7 cals a pound vs 2 cals a pound for FM. Most likely not enough for what your speaking of, but of thought.
@psychod787
Thanks for all of this info. I was looking into it.
“Gnawing sensation” - that’s it! I didn’t have it when losing. I have it a little bit now. Concerns me as I’m on some meds that can contribute to ulcers (which I’ve never had.)
I’m pondering the protein. I eat 91g on average per day. 1.3 x wt in kg.
Yes, I am basically maintaining currently at 156.5 or so. I know I get Very Hungry at 153.
As another long term poster said: walking doesn’t make her hungry or resistance bands, Yoga, Pilates. Those were all the things I did while losing.
Now, I do HIIT & wt lifting with a minor mount of walking & stretching & im
Hungrier. Just as she experiences.
What is “ffm”? Is the point that regained weight is higher percentage fat which burns dramatically fewer calories?
Thank you again. I very much appreciate your time to post these resources & your thoughts.
I lost about 1/3 of what you did. You are amazing!
Oh, and I’m eating More salads without the oil. TY for that tip as well
~ Maddie3 -
MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.
Well @MadisonMolly2017, I don't trust fitness trackers. They can have a large margin of error. Remember, there is SOME RMR slowing with weight loss. There is also less energy spent per contraction of muscle. Kevin Hall's BWP has your maintenance at 2100 cals. PAL of 1.8, roughly 14000 steps a day. thats taking into account the predicted metabolic slowing because of weight loss. I would make some suggestions told to me by multiple experts. Increase protein. Intakes of 25-30% tdee have shown to have spontaneous reduction in calories in overweight people. Decrease caloric density. Less nuts, more fruits and veggies. Don't add much oil to your food. Let it come from natural sources such as meat, eggs, dairy... ect. I will say I follow those rules and fill up fast. Problem for me is staying sated. I get pangs in my stomach an 1hr after eating much of the time. Have a gnawing sensation 1/2 the day or so. Oh, but its a little better 16lbs later. Trust me. I can actually get full! Hope its not the best it gets. Mabe consider maintaining it for a while. If you are not having the pangs and gnawing. JMHO. Leptin, she's a real B@astard! I am willing to press into the 245-255lbs range, currently 191 this am, if it means feeling better and not being an anal retentive @-hole. Whats your price? wanted to add, fat regain to lean mass in one study I read was 1kg of weight .76kg fm to /.26kg ffm when losing. During regain its .88kg fm to .12kg ffm. could be why its underestimating calories. We know FFM has a greater caloric expenditure 7 cals a pound vs 2 cals a pound for FM. Most likely not enough for what your speaking of, but of thought.
@psychod787
Thanks for all of this info. I was looking into it.
“Gnawing sensation” - that’s it! I didn’t have it when losing. I have it a little bit now. Concerns me as I’m on some meds that can contribute to ulcers (which I’ve never had.)
I’m pondering the protein. I eat 91g on average per day. 1.3 x wt in kg.
Yes, I am basically maintaining currently at 156.5 or so. I know I get Very Hungry at 153.
As another long term poster said: walking doesn’t make her hungry or resistance bands, Yoga, Pilates. Those were all the things I did while losing.
Now, I do HIIT & wt lifting with a minor mount of walking & stretching & im
Hungrier. Just as she experiences.
What is “ffm”? Is the point that regained weight is higher percentage fat which burns dramatically fewer calories?
Thank you again. I very much appreciate your time to post these resources & your thoughts.
I lost about 1/3 of what you did. You are amazing!
Oh, and I’m eating More salads without the oil. TY for that tip as well
~ Maddie
Hmmm... interesting,
I didn't have the gnawing sensation either losing. I have been trying to figure it out myself. I am starting to think it might be two things. One, a companion we have for the rest of our lives. Two, we are just below our set ranges and some gain might make it better. Three, I have noticed a trend that people say things like that get less and less over time the longer they stay in a 5-10lb range after losing. Only time will tell I think.0 -
psychod787 wrote: »MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »@psychod787
Thank you.
Short answer: I don’t get clear hunger signals or signals to stop eating, so I rely on a combo of apps.
As I was losing, my two apps (My Net Diary & FITIV (which takes MND calories eaten & exercise data from my Apple Watch) predicted lower weight loss than actual. That was a happy place for me.)
Now, in maintenance they both overestimate my weight loss.
They indicate I should have lost 10.8 lbs since Jan 1 & I gained ~ 2.4 lbs in the same time period. 251 days.
So I did the math. I ate 34 calories too much per day.
Data:
251 days
Calories Consumed: 520,583 (2,074/day)
Total Energy: 558,693 (2,226/day)
72% Resting 402,535 (1,604/day)
28% Active 156,158 (622/day)
Deficit: 38,110 or 10.9 lb loss. So it’s overestimating by 38,110 + 8,400 (2.4 x 3,500) I overate (I think.)
That’s 46,510 over 251 days or (185 cals)
So, I guess I could just shoot for a deficit of 185 on FITIV.??? And eventually I’d slowly gravitate back to 155.
———-
Then I thought what if I just concentrate in workout cals.
276 workout hours that burned 68,837 cals
Or 274 cals/day (of the Active)
2074 - 34 (overage per day) = 2040
2040 - 274 (workout cals per day) = 1,766 Is this my TDEE?
MND has my maintenance calories at 1,848 not including exercise.
MFP : 1,670 no ex.
Noom: 1,600 no ex
So, I’m trying to figure out how to adjust the settings (or what numbers I pay attention to) so the scale returns to 155 & does not creep.
I’m very open to suggestions & any miscalculations you see.
I think I can be successful if I can get the apps to be more accurate.
Thank you.
PS calories consumed may be higher than stated as I track everything, but eating out can be a crapshoot - at best. I limit eating out, but not to zero.
Well @MadisonMolly2017, I don't trust fitness trackers. They can have a large margin of error. Remember, there is SOME RMR slowing with weight loss. There is also less energy spent per contraction of muscle. Kevin Hall's BWP has your maintenance at 2100 cals. PAL of 1.8, roughly 14000 steps a day. thats taking into account the predicted metabolic slowing because of weight loss. I would make some suggestions told to me by multiple experts. Increase protein. Intakes of 25-30% tdee have shown to have spontaneous reduction in calories in overweight people. Decrease caloric density. Less nuts, more fruits and veggies. Don't add much oil to your food. Let it come from natural sources such as meat, eggs, dairy... ect. I will say I follow those rules and fill up fast. Problem for me is staying sated. I get pangs in my stomach an 1hr after eating much of the time. Have a gnawing sensation 1/2 the day or so. Oh, but its a little better 16lbs later. Trust me. I can actually get full! Hope its not the best it gets. Mabe consider maintaining it for a while. If you are not having the pangs and gnawing. JMHO. Leptin, she's a real B@astard! I am willing to press into the 245-255lbs range, currently 191 this am, if it means feeling better and not being an anal retentive @-hole. Whats your price? wanted to add, fat regain to lean mass in one study I read was 1kg of weight .76kg fm to /.26kg ffm when losing. During regain its .88kg fm to .12kg ffm. could be why its underestimating calories. We know FFM has a greater caloric expenditure 7 cals a pound vs 2 cals a pound for FM. Most likely not enough for what your speaking of, but of thought.
@psychod787
Thanks for all of this info. I was looking into it.
“Gnawing sensation” - that’s it! I didn’t have it when losing. I have it a little bit now. Concerns me as I’m on some meds that can contribute to ulcers (which I’ve never had.)
I’m pondering the protein. I eat 91g on average per day. 1.3 x wt in kg.
Yes, I am basically maintaining currently at 156.5 or so. I know I get Very Hungry at 153.
As another long term poster said: walking doesn’t make her hungry or resistance bands, Yoga, Pilates. Those were all the things I did while losing.
Now, I do HIIT & wt lifting with a minor mount of walking & stretching & im
Hungrier. Just as she experiences.
What is “ffm”? Is the point that regained weight is higher percentage fat which burns dramatically fewer calories?
Thank you again. I very much appreciate your time to post these resources & your thoughts.
I lost about 1/3 of what you did. You are amazing!
Oh, and I’m eating More salads without the oil. TY for that tip as well
~ Maddie
Hmmm... interesting,
I didn't have the gnawing sensation either losing. I have been trying to figure it out myself. I am starting to think it might be two things. One, a companion we have for the rest of our lives. Two, we are just below our set ranges and some gain might make it better. Three, I have noticed a trend that people say things like that get less and less over time the longer they stay in a 5-10lb range after losing. Only time will tell I think.
Oh wanted to add, I hope it's not #1. Lol though it does line up with n=1 taking accounts from people and some of the research I posted. I run 3g/kg. That will pit the breaks on a meal. Just does not last long with me. I have told by multiple professionals, one who worked with Libeil, my set range is 225-250. Strange that it lines up with some hormonal issues i had. Willing to venture there over time. All agree it will be under 270lbs. Who knows honestly.0 -
Oh and on a different note Molly. I think that the current situation with people is the farther we pull away from the body's resting state the harder he wants to pull back. Inside a calorie-counting website my opinions are not popular. I think that weight history, diet, and activity all play a role in establishing a body fat settling range. I sit outside of the two camps that usually populate such a website. One Camp says it's all about diet and lifestyle. The other says it's all biological. So, I'm setting up my tent and hoping for the best. I will state this last thought. What's right is not always popular, and what's popular is not always right.5
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@psychod787 and what works for one might not be right or work for another.... just saying thats why we all have to find what works for us7
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LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »@psychod787 and what works for one might not be right or work for another.... just saying thats why we all have to find what works for us
Exactly. Cheers my pretty Irish gal!3 -
I just hit goal a couple of days ago. I’m kind of at a loss. I don’t know what to “do” next. I’m just doing same old same old for the time being. I would kind of like to cut back on the excercise a bit rather than increase calories, since I’ve been banging it out for the last year, and have a few bothersome over-exercise aches and pains that could use a rest, but I can’t sit still.
There’s always a class or a neighbor who wants me to walk them. And I was so pleased that I ran five miles for the first time ever yesterday, I mean, I can’t give that up right now.
I rearranged the pantry yesterday, and then decided I could get in a couple of hot classes and a long walk with my husband. I’ve cleaned the house to within an inch of its life. If I sit down I just doze off and that drives me nuts.
Have to figure out some kind of balance now.
Have a second volunteer gig starting next week and am hoping it’s interesting and takes up some time. And must remember......no food in the desk. That’s what led to the whole obesity thing in the first place.7 -
I guess that’s all to say, maintenance guidance would be helpful. Everything else here has been!2
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Well done @springlering62 on reaching maintenance, as you say, now its about finding balance, all the best0
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I agree with others above that while I’m an active maintainer and forum participant - I just engage in threads where I feel I can add value - whether that be a new user struggling to lose or someone with questions about maintenance.
I do think a lot of people see weight loss and their participation in this site as temporary. I can’t tell you how many times people have somewhat dismissively scoffed at those of us who are still on the site for several years, logging or paying attention to maintenance. We hear that all the time “well, I don’t want to count calories forever I want to learn to listen to my body”. Yeah... good luck with that!
But if people aren’t asking maintenance questions there isn’t much to talk about. That’s like expecting people to talk about waking up, brushing their teeth, moving their bowels, and taking a shower before work. It’s just something you do day in and day out so there’s not a lot to discuss!19 -
Well, I wouldn't call it the "hardest thing you'll ever do."
It's not like I would have a couple days of over eating and gain 10 pounds, I mean it's a gradual process. As long as I step on the body weight scale a couple times a week, it's not that hard. I just catch it at 2-3 pounds up, not 15. It doesn't go in the ditch after a few days - so just stay on top of it.9 -
Some would argue that my weight range would suggest I've been "in maintenance" the entire time I've been on MFP (since 2012) as my starting weight, high, and low are within the range for "healthy" at my height. That range has narrowed since 2017 and I find I weigh more consistently (coming up on 800 day-streak), accurately, and meticulously as I ever did in the past, though that's for the sake of performance and continuous physique improvement. I don't really see the process any different; you have a target, make sure you hit it consistently.1
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Hey @MadisonMolly2017 I know this is the ULTIMATE back to basics, but are you drinking a ton of water? Getting plenty of sleep? Chug a glass of water when the “gnawing” starts and see if that doesn’t take the edge off.3
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As has been said, there are quite a few maintainers on the forums, me included.
But I think it is a bit like wedding forums, house building forums etc - once the wedding is over, the house is built, many people lose interest and move on.
They still enjoy being married or living in the house but the journey to get there is over and many peoples participation in the forum was for the journey.8 -
Hey @MadisonMolly2017 I know this is the ULTIMATE back to basics, but are you drinking a ton of water? Getting plenty of sleep? Chug a glass of water when the “gnawing” starts and see if that doesn’t take the edge off.
@nowine4me
Thank you - you made me realize this began when I began lifting AND the weather got Hot!
I don’t think I’ve been drinking enough water in light of the increased exercise & the heat.
I’m increasing H2O & dress making a full glass when I feel the gnawing.
As for sleep, it’s rocky. I shoot for 7 & my average equals that but I have lower & higher. Will redouble my efforts to exercise earlier in the day & put down my &$@3! Phone LoL earlier.
Thank you! Very helpful. Would be great if water & more sleep fixed this!!3 -
I have been losing weight / maintaining for one year 9 months. During this time the light bulb came on and Ive realized that what I am doing has nothing to do with weight loss each day. My goal each day is to eat less and exercise which is my prescription for maintenance therefore I am practicing maintenance each day and the by product is weight loss. Imagine that! Currently I am down 135 lbs.9
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I believe that maintenance is only a word, when I started this it was to change my eating habits and whith that came losing weight and keeping my food intake the same, not swaying thinking it's done now I need to maintain. Be happy with what you eat and how satifying it is. The other stuff, like junk food and sweets sodas, etc. are not worth going back to, ever....5
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