Anyone watch "The Game changers" documentary ?
vm007
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What do you all think?
Merit to it or another mocumentary ?
Merit to it or another mocumentary ?
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Someone started this same thread maybe 2 days ago. I'm on the app so can't give you a link. Interesting conversation there. Check it out. 👍0
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Someone started this same thread maybe 2 days ago. I'm on the app so can't give you a link. Interesting conversation there. Check it out. 👍
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10769807/game-changers-on-netflix/p16 -
I dont disagree with how important veggies are, but you have to remember that our ancestors also ate meat long before disease and obesity came into play. The fact that they also were 10x more active that people today. Non- processed meat is the key and everything in moderation6
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I just tubed it up and can’t wait to watch it. First scene is nothing but elite athletes and the US Marines.How can it be bad? Will report back.1
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I am addicted to anything fitness related so I watched it. It dealt with elite athletes, Arnold made a few appearances, and was produced by Jackie Chan so it had that going for it. It is a documentary so they almost always have an agenda of some sort. I can't imagine ever giving up meat completely but it is hard to argue that there are some compelling reasons to consider cutting back.2
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Game Changer is very interesting and I feel like I would like to try it but I also feel like things are going well with my current diet. I eat and or drink animal products at just about every meal and it would be laborious to find food/ beverages that are in compliance.0
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Game Changer is very interesting and I feel like I would like to try it but I also feel like things are going well with my current diet. I eat and or drink animal products at just about every meal and it would be laborious to find food/ beverages that are in compliance.
You should not radically change something that is working for you unless there is an immediate medical need. I also do not like the idea of cutting any one thing out of a menu completely. However, if you wanted to include more plant based food into your diet you could start with really small manageable changes. An example may be an additional side dish for your meals that is a plant based protein and cut out a couple of ounces of meat. I am not interested in giving up meat altogether so that is what I do to offset some of it.9 -
I watched it and thought it was well done. Being a vegan athlete myself I can certainly attest to the claims of pretty much all of my athletic abilites increasing 10-fold once eliminating animal products entirely. Also my sleep got way better as did my skin, hair, nails. Pretty much everything got better, including my mental focus.
I was vegetarian for a long time and it all came down to fish and eggs. I only "thought" I felt good but there was always some underlying thing going on. I finally gave up the fish and eggs and within a day or two I literally felt like I was born again.
Anyways, again, I thought it was a good docu. and it gets the point across. I'd recommend it for anyone who is interested in a plant based diet for health and weight loss - not necessarily for ethical reasons.13 -
jamesbrooks71 wrote: »I dont disagree with how important veggies are, but you have to remember that our ancestors also ate meat long before disease and obesity came into play. The fact that they also were 10x more active that people today. Non- processed meat is the key and everything in moderation
Did you actually watch it tho?5 -
I’m looking forward to watching this. Can I ask though, does it include any scenes from the meat industry? I’d like to watch it with my bloke who has been veggie for 30 years and I know he will stop watching if it shows this stuff0
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Dame_sans_merci wrote: »I’m looking forward to watching this. Can I ask though, does it include any scenes from the meat industry? I’d like to watch it with my bloke who has been veggie for 30 years and I know he will stop watching if it shows this stuff
No there is no focus on animal welfare at all. There is a warning at the beginning about “bloody scenes” and I was dreading some awful slaughter house clips (I’m already vegan, I don’t need any more convincing of how bad it is), but it was actually clips of an MMA fight!
I really enjoyed the film, so did my husband who wasn’t vegan when he watched it, but is experimenting with veganism now.7 -
To be honest all it said to me was that i need to increase my plant based foods not necessarily cut out meat.6
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Powerclean2deadlift wrote: »To be honest all it said to me was that i need to increase my plant based foods not necessarily cut out meat.
YES! someone got it...
I'll save everyone 2 hrs.. lol what the synopsis is....PLANTS GOOD! MEAT BAD!
I dont agree with it, but that's the breakdown...3 -
just_Tomek wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »Powerclean2deadlift wrote: »To be honest all it said to me was that i need to increase my plant based foods not necessarily cut out meat.
YES! someone got it...
I'll save everyone 2 hrs.. lol what the synopsis is....PLANTS GOOD! MEAT BAD GOOD!
I dont agree with it, but that's the breakdown...
Fixed it for you.
Oh yes... meat IS good....1 -
What do you all think?
Merit to it or another mocumentary ?
Argh!!
You can't tell whether it's meant seriously or intended to make you laugh? A mockumentary isn't a documentary with a spin, slant, or callous disregard of the truth trying to convince you to adopt some particular opinion. It's a movie made in the style of a documentary about some fictitious person, event, scenario, etc. It's a comedy. There wasn't really a band called Spinal Tap. Amy Poehler didn't really work for a Parks Department.
Now I have to go chase some children off of my lawn.6 -
I don't believe in any documentaries that talks about Health and Diet. usually there is a one sided biased argument. They will usually cherry pick their data in order to push their agenda. A little bit like that other documentary on Netflix that compared eggs to smoking cigarettes. I have survived 36 years of life with Calories in and Calories out by eating food that I enjoy, that's enough for me. I have one life to live, I don't need to worry about every single food I eat by asking myself all the time "Will this be the food that ends up killing me?". At the end of the day, as long as my overall balance diet is good, I eat enough fibers, vitamins, proteins and I am losing (if I am on a cut) or gaining weight (bulking) the way I should, I know I will be fine. The rest is just noise. Unfortunately, in the health and diet industry, there is money to be made, so the more original you make it sound, the more you can profit from it.6
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just_Tomek wrote: »I watch it last night. To me it's simple. Everyone should be eating more veggies but no one must go vegan to live a healthy life.
Also, this is just like any other pro something documentary. It's promoting vegetarian and vegan diets. Obviously it is going to be one sided.
Like I stated.... two hours of plants good... meat bad....2 -
I question that if such a simple change could generate such significant athletic improvements, wouldn’t all the dieticians working with our pro teams already have this in place for their athletes?16
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sarabushby wrote: »I question that if such a simple change could generate such significant athletic improvements, wouldn’t all the dieticians working with our pro teams already have this in place for their athletes?
Exactly! Replace this with any current fad (diet and gear) and ask "If x is so great why aren't the elites doing it?"4 -
To that, I'd add this question: What is the probability that peak physical performance would result from eliminating all of these somewhat diverse foods that have been key, valued dietary features (though varying in proportion) among the overwhelming majority of human groups through thousands of years of natural selection?
(And I"m a freakin' vegetarian - 45 years now! - asking this, for heaven's sake.)12 -
Not sure if they're still doing it this season but last season a bunch of Tennessee Titans players adopted a plant based diet. Are they featured in the documentary?
https://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/26419/vegan-meals-all-the-rage-for-titans-with-15-players-converted0 -
Not sure if they're still doing it this season but last season a bunch of Tennessee Titans players adopted a plant based diet. Are they featured in the documentary?
https://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/26419/vegan-meals-all-the-rage-for-titans-with-15-players-converted
Yes, the wife of one of the players is a vegan chef. The documentary shows her making all their meals for them. The food looks amazing, I’m not surprised they all converted!2 -
There wasn't a lot of new info here. They touch on why meat and dairy gets pushed and then try to show with very small sample experiments why plant based is better. They don't try to tell everyone to go vegan, they don't get into ethics. I appreciate that.
One thing I found interesting is how they talked about our ancestors and that we assume people are mostly meat because of Bones and tools left behind and then point out that plants don't need weapons and tools to consume and that ancestors diet was likely more based on plants with some meat.. they said "science confirms" but I didn't see the evidence. Still interesting and makes sense
Whether you like best it not, it's hard to not agree that more plants is better generally for health. I wish people wouldn't get so defensive about eating plant based.3 -
Angryvegan wrote: »There wasn't a lot of new info here. They touch on why meat and dairy gets pushed and then try to show with very small sample experiments why plant based is better. They don't try to tell everyone to go vegan, they don't get into ethics. I appreciate that.
One thing I found interesting is how they talked about our ancestors and that we assume people are mostly meat because of Bones and tools left behind and then point out that plants don't need weapons and tools to consume and that ancestors diet was likely more based on plants with some meat.. they said "science confirms" but I didn't see the evidence. Still interesting and makes sense
Whether you like best it not, it's hard to not agree that more plants is better generally for health. I wish people wouldn't get so defensive about eating plant based.
I'm not seeing people getting defensive about plant based. I think the consensus here is:
1. Vegetables good
2. Bad science is bad (IOW using cherry picked/out of context science to push a plant based agenda is bad)7 -
I wasn't directing that to this thread, more a generalization2
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BoxerBrawler wrote: »I watched it and thought it was well done. Being a vegan athlete myself I can certainly attest to the claims of pretty much all of my athletic abilites increasing 10-fold once eliminating animal products entirely. Also my sleep got way better as did my skin, hair, nails. Pretty much everything got better, including my mental focus.
I was vegetarian for a long time and it all came down to fish and eggs. I only "thought" I felt good but there was always some underlying thing going on. I finally gave up the fish and eggs and within a day or two I literally felt like I was born again.
Anyways, again, I thought it was a good docu. and it gets the point across. I'd recommend it for anyone who is interested in a plant based diet for health and weight loss - not necessarily for ethical reasons.
Agreed.. whether the documentary cherry-picks or not, I am also a vegan plant-based athlete and have seen it work wonders on my performance, physique, face, hair, nails, digestion.. pretty much every aspect. I eased into it over the course of 6 months so that I could monitor how I felt making the changes. Definitely worth considering.3 -
It's a heap of crap XD Vegan propaganda3
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A lot of it is crap.
I've heard the former MMA guy on a few podcasts making outlandish claims that go so over the top, it's difficult not to dismiss just about anything else he says. I see nothing wrong with adopting a vegan lifestyle, but don't tell me it's going to result in 50-100x performance improvements or claim that meat is actually holding elite athletes back from their real potential. That just makes me think you're selling something.
Especially when world-class athletes who have been training their entire lives while eating meat, taking various PEDs, and being about as vegan as a polar bear suddenly change diets and imply that you can get results like they did with a 100% plant-based diet. It's entirely anecdotal but it's convenient that he's now retired and has never actually trained for, fought in, or recovered from MMA fighting while vegan. Cam Newton's recovery isn't going that well either.
we also can't overlook the fact that it's produced by James Cameron, Schwarzenegger and others who have tens of millions invested in a pea-protein company.7 -
just_Tomek wrote: »cuteangelkitten wrote: »It's a heap of crap XD Vegan propaganda
Its not crap. Its an interesting watch, but it is not a study. Its a documentary skewed in one direction.
What I mean by crap, is that it's skewed and biased. There are plenty of healthy people that eat animals and animal products. We evolved to eat them. It was a good laugh for me to watch. Especially the bit with penis measurement lmfao!
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