January 2020 Monthly Running Challenge
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emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i am counting the 10K miles in the marathon plan. For instance if tomorrow I run six miles, I will do the first three or four with the 10K trainer in my ear and then finish out the rest as part of the marathon schedule.
Thanks for clarifying. Are you using a specific walk/run intervals strategy? Or are you walking when overtired from running? (I am also someone that does well with a plan or a list of boxes to check. I do think slowing down is going to help significantly, but you might want to table to 10k trainer for now if it’s clouding your marathon plan).
@emmamcgarry1888 that’s another thing - my marathon plan just has # of miles per running day- no specified pace or intervals. I think it would serve me better if i had a better plan for it, aside from just getting the miles in0 -
Made it out for my first None 2 Run run this morning. It was very chilly and slightly wet, but still beautiful out and I enjoyed it. I'm hoping if I can enjoy running in the rain, I can keep up my motivation over the next rainy month in the beautiful PNW!
I made my January goals a bit more firm:
1. 40 miles (run or walk)..........3.6mi
2. 12 runs................................1
3. Stretch x31..........................5
4. Strength training x4.............0
5. Yoga x4...............................0
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@johnisrunning good job!!!!0
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i am counting the 10K miles in the marathon plan. For instance if tomorrow I run six miles, I will do the first three or four with the 10K trainer in my ear and then finish out the rest as part of the marathon schedule.
Thanks for clarifying. Are you using a specific walk/run intervals strategy? Or are you walking when overtired from running? (I am also someone that does well with a plan or a list of boxes to check. I do think slowing down is going to help significantly, but you might want to table to 10k trainer for now if it’s clouding your marathon plan).
@emmamcgarry1888 that’s another thing - my marathon plan just has # of miles per running day- no specified pace or intervals. I think it would serve me better if i had a better plan for it, aside from just getting the miles in
The training plan my running group used with marathoners had a pace chart that appears to be from Jack Daniels. My “Believe Journal” (which is amazing btw) also includes a pace chart. I would think if you just continue to train at conversational pace you’ll build up your endurance. And that to me seems more important than pace in this situation. I’d save the speedwork for shorter runs maybe once a week. What is your current 5k race time? I could look it up on the chart from my run club if you like.
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I actually had something approaching form tonight, hit PBs for both 5k and 10k breaking under 1 hour for 10k for the first time in the modern era. I know that's not much however it pleased me.
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Glad I found this group- love LOVE reading all your posts!
Dec 30- Jan 5: start up week was pretty good. Managed to get in 5 walk/runs, plus today’s first LSD run of 10.5 km.
This next week I hope to bump my duration times each day so I manage 5km a Trek, and Sunday’s to 13km🤞11 -
Hello runners! I’ve been lurking but still running, so congratulations, condolences, and hugs where appropriate (especially @katharmonic - I hope your gym friend is okay!).
December wrapped up a mixed second year of running. On paper, my biggest accomplishment was probably my sub-30 5k in March, of which I remain quite proud. In reality, my biggest accomplishment was making it through a much more challenging running year than my first. In 2018, everything seemed to go smoothly - no injuries, PRs right and left, and big hopes for more in 2019. But then came nasty weather, a string of knee, hip, and shin pains, month after months of missed mileage goals, multiple DNSes, and nary a PR in sight. I regained 35 pounds from my 2018 low, and I still feel @mobycarp’s absence from this group keenly.
But there were other accomplishments this year. After all that garbage, I still am proud to call myself a runner. I ran at least 20 miles every month but February, maxing out at 55 miles in August. I ran socially much more than previously: a 10k with my sister and brother-in-law, my third ever half marathon in September with a good friend, and my first six miles on a trail with @7lenny7. I ran ten miles with my dad following on a bike, and brought him and my step-mom along to cheer for a 5k. In November my best law school friend suggested we start running together, and yesterday was our third weekend run with plans to keep it going as often as possible.
Thursday was my first run of 2020, and it was a pretty good one! I ran 2.23 miles to the gym, the slightly extended route along the lakes which is much nicer than the 1.5 mile direct route. We had an unseasonably warm December, with a significant amount of ice and melt, which might feel nice, but makes for difficult running conditions on city streets. Of 11 runs in December, seven were either to or from the gym, all but one of those along the direct route, which is highly trafficked and kept clearest of ice. I ended December with 26.29 miles, for a 2019 total of 375.19.
Yesterday my husband dropped me off at my friend’s house and we ran a mile and a half around her home lake, walking the last couple of miles. After visiting for a while and drinking some hot chocolate, I took off to run six miles home. It had been sunny earlier but could feel the temperature dropping on my way home, and was slightly underdressed for almost an hour and a half outside in the mid-20s. I ended up needing to take several walk breaks on what passes for hills in Minneapolis, which did not help with keeping warm. Still, I made it, and that felt amazing.
I’m reluctant to set overly specific goals for the year or even the month. I am currently on the eighth straight day of closing my Apple Watch exercise ring (at least 30 minutes of activity or logged workouts) and want to see how long I can keep that streak going. I’ve been doing yoga on days I don’t run, lift, or shovel snow, and that’s largely felt great. I’d like to get another half marathon in eventually this year, but there are lots of options and for now I’m not going to stress about it.
My goals for now are to run 3-4 times a week, building mileage to around 17 miles per week, lift 2-3 times a week, and do at least 15 minutes of yoga per day. Basically the same goals I was aiming for all last year. My first race of 2020 is the Securian Winter Run 10k in three weeks - right now I’m feeling pretty good about that one.13 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »And about pace: I wouldn’t even know how to build it up/ cut it back. Tips? Strategies?
I am not sure I understand what your question is. Can you ask it again using different words?
@PastorVincent how do i get faster, lol. Even at 12 minutes outside, I am struggling. A few weeks ago it was easier - and it IS getting easier - but it still feels like maybe 85% effort. It is hard to sustain, ESPECIALLY outside. On the treadmill- not so much. But the treadmill isn’t good training for an outdoor marathon in Nashville.
It could be that I’m not trying as hard as I think I am. Maybe I just need to go outside with a focus on speed play. Which actually sounds awful today.
I saw you had a thread of replies on this, but let me ask this, is this your first marathon? I think it is. In that case, do not worry about pace.
Your primary goal right now should be TIME ON FEET. The biggest barrier most people face when running a marathon is going the full distance. Conquer that before you worry about pace. Pace will come naturally if you just ignore it. It will come much faster if you target it in your training of course, but right now that is not the biggest barrier to success you face. Running for 5 or 6 hours in a single event is.
Knock one giant down at a time.
As mentioned above: Run mostly at "conversational pace" whatever that is for the day, weather and such you are currently in. If you want to push yourself, pick your shortest planed run, every other week, and push the pace a little.
But really, "time on feet" is the best thing for you to focus on right now.
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1/1 7.41 miles
1/2 7.25 miles, crazy laps
1/3 7.38 miles, crazy laps
1/4 7.05 miles, crazy laps
1/5 13.35 miles, 615 days
Right, left, right, left...one foot in front of the other, rinse, repeat13 -
AlphaHowls wrote: »1/1 7.41 miles
1/2 7.25 miles, crazy laps
1/3 7.38 miles, crazy laps
1/4 7.05 miles, crazy laps
1/5 13.35 miles, 615 days
Right, left, right, left...one foot in front of the other, rinse, repeat
Your mileage may vary... @MobyCarp -ism 😉5 -
@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?3 -
@rheddmobile That sounds fantastic! Disappointing in ways, but still very cool.
I can totally relate as a keto carnivore (to manage type 1 diabetes), there are almost never options for me in the post-race food. I usually give away my beer tickets also. Oh well...
Interestingly enough, the Tallgrass Prairie in Kansas (near Strong City, KS) is or at least was open for hiking at all hours. They didn't allow canping last I was there. But I went out once with a group for a midnight hike under a full moon. This is a bison pasture where you are actually out with the bison, unlike Shelby Farms where they keep people and bison separated by a fence. So we were hiking along under the full moon when we came upon the herd just standing there and sleeping. We could see the silhouettes in the moonlight from about 100 yds. and started talking about them. Eventually they awoke and started to run away. It was amazing how coordinated it was. In the quiet darkness, we could see and hear them start to move. The stampede caused a rumbling noise with lots and lots of hooves landing simultaneously. And when the herd stopped, they all stopped as a single unit. It was so well coordinated and just seemed so magical. Night time with wildlife (when done safely) can be a great experience.7 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
Then you finish in 6.5 hours. or 7 or whenever. They do not arrest you for such things. You might miss out on the finisher food/etc, but arrange to have someone waiting for you with food and you will be fine.8 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
Then you finish in 6.5 hours. or 7 or whenever. They do not arrest you for such things. You might miss out on the finisher food/etc, but arrange to have someone waiting for you with food and you will be fine.
@PastorVincent but i won’t get a DNF right?1 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
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@ContraryMaryMary Hope your slower run went well. I too love your windows. Prayers for you and your fellow Aussie's. I hope you all stay safe! It's so scary.
@Camaramandy648 Way to get it done!
Welcome @PerfectlyImperfectLife ! You've come to the right place. Everyone on here is really supportive! Way to get out and get that first run done! That's a huge step!
@rheddmobile That "race" sounds interesting, at the least. I guess they felt being unorganized was okay for a fun run. Maybe you could volunteer in the planning of next year's event to make it better. Just a thought. I don't understand people who bring their sick kids out in public! No wonder epidemics happen. I hope you were able to avoid the germs and don't get sick. I too hope they didn't drag the poor sick child out in the cold for the run. I'm glad you were able to enjoy the lights and run despite all of the idiots. I love your picture and agree with your husband, you do look like a Las Vegas Statue of Liberty!
@username301 Whether to log the 14K is totally up to you. It's your log, your rules. I am doing the Jeff Galloway method, so I have planned walks in my workouts. I count them all. I also count my warm up and cool down walks. It's up to the individual.
Congratulations on your PBs @TheMrWobbly ! 10K in under an hour would please me too!
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
Then you finish in 6.5 hours. or 7 or whenever. They do not arrest you for such things. You might miss out on the finisher food/etc, but arrange to have someone waiting for you with food and you will be fine.
@PastorVincent but i won’t get a DNF right?
My gut says that over the next few months before the race your fitness level will improve enough that you won’t have to worry about being past the cut off. Based on the pace chart you are currently pretty close to the 6 hour mark. But if you focus on training at a conversational pace you’ll improve your cardiovascular endurance and likely be able to run faster by the time the race date approaches. Thinking about it, some of the pain you’ve been having might also be related to pushing the pace. I had knee and hip pain when I first started running that improved when I slowed down and allowed my body to become more conditioned. I’m a little worried that if you push the pace too much before your body is ready for it, you’ll increase your risk of injury.6 -
@TheMrWobbly Thank you! Congratulations on the personal bests!
18.2 miles today, run/walk. Pace averaged 13 minutes per mile, not my best. My ankle is hurting...6 -
I'm glad I put off my run until this afternoon. It was a sunny 43°F when I started out. I did my warm up walk doing half a lap of my driveway, waiting for my dog to decide to listen and come from where ever she was so I could tie her out while I ran out the road. I was beginning to fume, thinking I would have to do the scheduled 4 miles by running a ridiculous number of driveway laps. Then, here she came running about 10 times faster than I ever could! She followed me back to the house and I secured her so she wouldn't follow me into the road.
This was actually good, because it let me start the run at the house, meaning the first 0.3 miles was mostly downhill. This was my long run for the week, so I was trying to go at an easyish pace. I didn't feel like I was going fast, so imagine my surprise when my Garmin vibrated, I looked down, and it said I had a new PR for the mile....9:20 minutes!!!! That's amazing for me. Seriously. I'm still can't believe it is accurate. Knowing me, I'll probably check the distance with the car, just to make sure, but, for now, I'm elated!
I continued on out the road and braved running past the sheep farm with the little guard dog that is super aggressive when I go by. It is inside the fence and isn't supposed to be able to get out. I don't trust this as the fence is a mesh wire and who knows if it has been digging a spot just waiting for the right time to escape. I tried my best to ignore it, but kept a watch out of the corner of my eye, just in case. I was safe today.
I finished the 4 miles in 43:38 minutes, for a 10:54 pace. Again, that is amazing to me since I didn't feel like I was pushing it at all. Garmin gave me my second PR for the day: Fastest 5K at 33:43! I'm seriously going to be disappointed if I find out Garmin was wrong and I really didn't go that distance. I'm doing my best to not let that mess with my head.
So, with the warm up and cool down walks, total distance traversed was 4.73 miles.
On the Twelfth Day of Christmas,
My workout let me see,
Twelve snarling dog teeth,
Eleven rescued Pit Bulls,
Ten alien spacecraft,
Nine minutes running,
Eight hours with family,
Seven thoughts of quitting,
Six children sleeping,
Five hills to run,
Four falling leaves,
Three black cows,
Two tractor tracks,
And a sweet bouncing boxer puppy.
I'm sure you're glad today is Epiphany and the end of my song.
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PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
Then you finish in 6.5 hours. or 7 or whenever. They do not arrest you for such things. You might miss out on the finisher food/etc, but arrange to have someone waiting for you with food and you will be fine.
I agree 100%. You will get faster the more you train. Time on your feet is the most important thing. You don’t want to injure yourself by trying to run too fast right now. Just focus on being able to go the distance period.
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1/1: 3.12 mile run, 1 mile walk, strength training
1/2: strength training
1/3: strength training
1/5: 5.04 mile run, 1 hour spin class6 -
emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!6 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!
I think you are doing great! I’m still relatively new having only started running a year ago. But it appears you are on track according to the pace chart from my run club. I used the same pace chart to predict my 5k time after taking that running class thus Fall and it was pretty accurate. Every time I try to do more than my body is ready for I get injured.3 -
January Goal: 100 Miles
1/1: 6.41 miles
1/2: 6.10 miles
1/5: 4.55 miles
17.06/100 miles completed for January
17.06/1000 miles for Run the Year Team Pavement Pounders
I did not feel good for my long run today, so I only ran 4.55 miles. It was tough too. In addition to all the coughing I started out running into 14 mph winds. I've been fighting this cold all week and I was hoping to feel better by today, but I didn't really. I do feel better than I did on Friday and Saturday. Friday was the worst day, but I was tired today after my 4.5 miles. More tired than I usually am after my long run and I usually run 10 miles on Sunday. Hopefully next week will be better.
2020 races:
5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon10 -
Don't worry all....I am still here! I usually update this when I am at work.
Next weekend is the Charleston HM! I can't wait. This will be my...crap, forgot how many HMs! I will have to go home and count my medals for you all. That is a good sign though, right? When you have done so many that you can't remember off the top of your head? Well here are my stats for the month so far:
Jan 1: 2.47 miles ran
Jan 2: 3.28 miles ran
Jan 3: 1.83 miles walked
Jan 4: 4.42 miles ran
Jan 5: 1.83 miles walked
Total miles for January: 13.83
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emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
I think you are doing great! I’m still relatively new having only started running a year ago. But it appears you are on track according to the pace chart from my run club. I used the same pace chart to predict my 5k time after taking that running class thus Fall and it was pretty accurate. Every time I try to do more than my body is ready for I get injured.
You ARE doing great @Camaramandy648... and I, like @emmamcgarity , think you will finish ahead of a 6 hour cut off.
HOWEVER, IF YOU DO NOT - you might get a DNF on their website, but who cares? If you complete the distance, you completed the distance. Seriously. You can say "I completed a marathon in 6.5 hours" or whatever and it will be 100% valid.
Stick with your training and go for it. Push too hard and you will get injured and that will stink. So do not do that. That is all the wisdom you really need 9 -
@TheMrWobbly Thank you! Congratulations on the personal bests!
18.2 miles today, run/walk. Pace averaged 13 minutes per mile, not my best. My ankle is hurting...
Well done! Now go feed that ankle some chocolate
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Welcome to all the new people, sorry been a hectic couple days and missed most of you, but y'all are welcome! 0
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »emmamcgarity wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@emmamcgarity i haven’t run a 5k since March 18 and I walked most of it, lol.
My best pace right now is 12:01.
I think you and @PastorVincent are right - but what happens if i don’t finish in the allotted six hours?
For a best pace 12:00 in a 5 k the chart shows that your marathon pace would be 13:51.
Training run paces as follows
Recovery run between 14:06 and 15:05
Easy run between 13:23 and 14:01
Long run between 13:25 and 14:24
Tempo run between 12:03 and 12:26
@emmamcgarity so I’m actually doing all right!?!?!?
@PastorVincent I think you’re right and I think wisdom on this is to trust people in this forum (including @emmamcgarity ) who actually know a lot more than me.
So for now I’ll just focus on running the miles.
My sister who hates running texted me with a bunch of running questions today 😎😎😎
@loveychar YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!! How did it go? What did you like best for fuel? I’m so happy for you!
Can I ask, what's the reason for jumping straight to a marathon?
It's a nit more typical to build up, a 5k first, then maybe a 10. Definitely throw in a half marathon.
A marathon is more than just twice the length of a half. It's a full on, take over your life for months, endurance both physical but mostly mental, challenge.
I think its amazing that you are doing it, but it's not common, or advised, to go from zero to a marathon. Especially in 4 months.6
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