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Help settle an argument- coffee as a diet aid
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fitnessguy266 wrote: »
does he have to?2 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »fitnessguy266 wrote: »
does he have to?
I hope not. It might mean putting on a shirt.0 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »fitnessguy266 wrote: »
does he have to?
I hope not. It might mean putting on a shirt.
well, if its a nice, stretchy, form fitting T-shirt......1 -
cmriverside wrote: »BuiltLikeAPeep wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »Lyle McDonald speaks about caffeine being a stimulant and raising calorie burns by 100 calories a day or so. It also can have an appetite reducing effect in some people.
OP was drinking soda prior, I'd guess at least some of it was caffeinated. And we don't knowthey weren't drinking any coffee at all before, just that they drink more now.
I could see if someone went from no caffeine to a lot of caffeine the metabolic change could be a little noticable. But a 100 cal metabolic increase didn't make OP lose 20 lbs since Nov. It might have given a little boost. But there was without a doubt much more to it.
Yes, plenty of caffeinated beverages and coffee. 3-4 sodas a day, monster java, starbucks in a can, red bull, you name it and an occasional (maybe 2-3 per week) homemade coffee.
Well, when you cut 1500 calories a day out of your intake, yeah, you might just lose some weight. That's a lot of sugar.
*wavng at psychod787*
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Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better2
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wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
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wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
Sometimes I put oat milk in my coffee. If I log the calories properly, how is this going to stop me from seeing the results that I want in a timely way?3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
Sometimes I put oat milk in my coffee. If I log the calories properly, how is this going to stop me from seeing the results that I want in a timely way?
I agree. I have been slowly cutting back on the amount of sugar I put in (down to about a tablespoon) and I only use about an ounce of skim milk (130 calories per 8 oz) or unsweetened almond milk (70 calories per 8 oz) so I don't see how that is as bad as soda.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
Sometimes I put oat milk in my coffee. If I log the calories properly, how is this going to stop me from seeing the results that I want in a timely way?
I use unsweetened cashew milk and have two 16 oz cups a day, sweetened with splenda or a splash of torino sugar free vanilla syrup. If I'm running low on protein for the day, I'll use 1% milk instead.
And coffee, unless you are loading it up with sugar and cream, is really flavored water, just like tea - the diuretics effect of both have been proven to not offset the hydration of the drink. And I know tea, even black tea, has what is it - flavanoids? - that are healthy; I think I've heard that coffee does as well? And I think both also have antioxidants, don't they? I know there's something healthy in tea, anyway!0 -
wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
Other than people with cardiac issues hypersensitive to caffeine - and this thread isn't about that - why would I need to cut back on coffee??
I don't like it black - I like it with milk, and the amount of skim milk I use works out to about 20 calories per cup.
Not hard to fit into even a low calorie allowance
I don't have sugar in it - but if you do, just account for the calories. Same with anything else you add..
And people shouldn't be aiming for 'faster results' anyway - they should be aiming for appropriate pace depending how much they have to lose.( or maintain, as the case may be)
And soda isn't bad anyway - again, like everything else, if you account for the calories.
And it isn't some false dichotomy - ' water is better, drink water' - people can, and most people do, drink more than one beverage in life.
I, for example, drink 3 or 4 coffees per day ( grand total sum of 80 calories) and water every day and sometimes soda and some alcoholic drinks and sometimes juice, milk, etc etc
Life - variety is good.
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I may only drink 1 glass of actual water a day if that - usually about 8 oz to chase down my meds, but I routinely get in over 100 oz of black tea, unsweetened in a day, through the 32 oz cup that I keep full on my desk at work and the couple of glasses I'll have at home in the evening. My health markers are all spot on and have been for quite a while, even though this has been my routine for years. My mother put black tea in my bottles as an infant!1
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wwwtheselion11 wrote: »Coffee is just as bad as your soda. Best way to have your coffee is black. If you wanting to se faster results. Drinking more water will help. Cut back on your coffee. Have a 8 to 16,oz cup a day. One or two cups is all you really need. I know people who are drinking it all day. Thats not good. Water is so much better
Minutia...2 -
At first I used black coffee as a diet aid but then I realized as someone with anemia it was lowering my iron levels1
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coffee doesn't make you lose weight. A calorie deficit does. Ignore your friend's advice and continue on.3
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I am so stuck on my coffee that I created a "recipe" for myself ... I always bring two travel mugs' worth to work with me (solo office and no communal coffee station) doctored with almond milk 1 tsp of coconut sugar and the rest monk fruit ...
I also will mix cold coffee with my vanilla protein powder for workouts. While the caffeine doesn't help me lose the weight, it does facilitate my muscles warming up a little sooner than normal.1 -
It’s more like you cut soda out. However if you would take your coffee down to a 0 cal sweetener and a dash of creamer you could impact your losses more. Case you are cutting out 200 cal out per drink that adds up1
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Substituting a coffee (not one of those high cal concoctions) for a soda or other such drinks is a BETTER CHOICE.
Coffee has some other benefits, too. The caffeine helps keep you going instead of a candy bar. It can help regulate the digestive system in a way diet sodas can't. And just having a hot beverage has appetite curbing effects.
I don't really like the term "diet aid" because that's all too often a term used to sell something to people trying to lose weight that is a gimmick. No one calls walking a mile a diet aid. No one calls thin crust mushroom pizza a diet aid. You get the idea.2 -
Coffee is my secret weapon. It satisfies me when I'm hungry for a good hour or two. Just black coffee with a spoonful of low calorie cream.
It also keeps me alert, and energized so I move.more
Hey,and it's said to maybe prevent Alzheimers and Parkinson's.
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huge big maybe there.
Unfortunately real life doesnt bear that out - many many people with Alzheimers and Parkinsons disease who drank plenty of coffee2 -
coffee curbs my appetite.. it is almost like a mini meal for me. So it works in that capacity for me. maybe not for others.1
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Your friend is a victim of magical thinking. You, on the other hand, are being smart and reasonable. How much coffee one ought or ought not drink is a constant subject of study and conjecture. If you want the "straight skinny" on coffee, Harvard's "Nutrition Source" is a site known for keeping consumer nutrition information up-to-date and science-based. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/food-features/coffee/2
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If coffee made people lose weight, most people i know would be very thin!
That being said my daily coffees are 30 calories each... i don't even understand how they would be 200 calories lol (because i am allergic to milk i can only add a little bit). Coffee is like 4 calories per 8 oz... i put a splash of milk in. Are you having milk with coffee in it? Nothing wrong with it since you are logging it. But your friend might be in for a real surprise if she starts adding hundreds of calories of "coffee" (aka milk and sugar) without reducing her food calorie intake.
Personally I see the value in having coffee with milk instead of soda. The coffee has calcium and protein and fat from the milk!
Where are you from? I know in Australia, when I ordered a coffee, they gave me a cappuccino instead of black drip coffee and I was like what hahah. Coffee means different things in different countries. Now if i visit Europe or Australia I order an Americano.1 -
yes quite true.
for example in America (so I found out since joining this site) ice coffee means cold black coffee with ice cubes
someone once wrote they didnt bother logging ice coffee because it would have hardly any calories
I was
Because here in Australia iced coffee means very milky very sweet coffee with usually cream and icecream added.
Anything but "hardly any calories"
You can also buy cartons of ice coffee - commercial version of above, minus the cream/ice cream but basically sweetened and flavoured milk - like chocolate milk but coffee flavour.
https://sprudge.com/can-feel-ok-drinking-australian-iced-coffee-asked-barista-66186.html2
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