Coronavirus prep
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I wonder if it would be easier to convert to a zombie if I went carnivore now. I think the sudden transition from a high fiber to brain diet could yield some nasty constipation. I don't need that when out hunting for all of you to victimize.
This explains so much about the zombie shuffle.16 -
cmriverside wrote: »I don't trust the aseptic milk.
P&G...what products do I buy of theirs?
Why are we panicking about Covid19? Isn't it just a little bit more virulent than a cold? Why are we panicking?*
*I looked at the WHO site about it, and I just am not feeling the fear about this...I'm more worried about people not vaccinating their kids against the flu to be honest. We've had zoonotic diseases forever...I don't think it's even possible to contain something like this now that people travel. I had a friend return from overseas and they wee encouraged to use hand sanitizer as they left the plane.
Yep, agreed. It is tough to get a very good R0 value this early, but definitely agree that the media hype is a big influencer on behavior. I just wish the media would put more emphasis on things like handwashing every single day with or without Covid-19. These are things we should do always regardless.3 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »I'll just be over here in the corner, wiping my butt with leaves.
So, not from the pine trees in my yard?3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I'll just be over here in the corner, wiping my butt with leaves.
So, not from the pine trees in my yard?
I think I'll just risk the ridicule and buy another mega pack of Charmin the next time I'm at the store. (J/K. I don't buy Charmin. My kids waste way too much to get the good stuff. I keep fancy paper for visitors. The rest of the time, it's the cheap stuff for us. TMI?)7 -
God. This is terrifying. We have a supply of dried food that can last a month if we ration it. Water's from a well, stove is propane, lots of deadfall trees that can be burned if there's a reason to. Got dried beans too. I have a job that can be worked remotely if necessary. The thing that worries me most is not that I can't find what I want at the grocery store, it's if I get the virus. I'm 51 years old with a not great immune system and other health issues. I'd be dead in the water, and who would take care of my husband? He's younger and is going back to school to get a better job so he is not in a position to handle everything alone if I croak.7
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Fyi for those who think this is going away with warmer weather that is influenza viruses not coronavirus. Think about a summer cold those are coronavirus. They are different types of virus. Also this is currently spreading fast in warm as well as cold climates.
Also this is more infectious then the common flu. Every person with the flu on average infects 1.21 people. Sars-cov2 the virus that causes covid-19 every person who gets it infects between 1.8 to 2.4 people on average (studies vary but new virus data is in flux)
That makes it actually much more infectious and no vaccine will exist for at least 18 months if not much longer (note we don't have a vaccine for the common cold and this virus is genetically closer to that then influenza)
Panic is not a good idea . Instead cautious awareness.
Wash your hands
Keep your hands away from your face, mouth , nose
Use hand sanitizer
Cough into elbow not hands
Social distance ie skip handshake instead smile and maybe peace sign , give a bit more space
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I'm not stocking up on anything here in the US in a state with no reported cases. That said, I always have ample dried goods and shelf stable foods. We always have costco-quantities of soy milk (no refrigeration needed), quinoa-rice packets, meal pouches (tastybite), ramen, cereal, granola bars, dried fruits (craisens), oatmeal, nuts, baking ingredients (bread, cookies, pie), and soylent. I always keep the pantry full so I'm not tempted to eat out and because I love to bake.
It's not about whether there are reported cases locally (unless all the products you depend on are grown, processed, and packaged locally). It's about whether the supply chain for the products you depend on breaks because the factories involved are closed as a public health measure or because so many of the people who work there are sick or caring for those who are sick that they can't function.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »But...
Okay. I don't have TV and I don't look at the news.
Ya'll - WHY are people stripping grocery shelves? Are we being locked into our houses? Do they think it is going to blow over in a week? Are all the food supply chains being shut down by the government? I don't understand...you guys are kind of freaking me out but I don't really know why.
I started to think about responding but got distracted because the dog in that gif is just too cute.
I think some of it is panic by irrational people. I suppose some of it may be people who because they are retired or telecommute or are independently wealthy can plan to just stay home for weeks or even months (which also seems like an overreaction to me).
But from what I've seen in the news there have been factories shut down in China. I have no idea what they produce. And investors seem to expect some impact in most sectors (both due to decreased demand if consumers are staying home much more and due to decreased supplies from factories closing down temporarily).1 -
Just like Y2K, I took stock of my current situation and figured I would be fine for about 2 weeks if all went to hell. I have meat in the freezer, pasta and rice in the cupboard, some canned tomatoes and sauce in the basement, and enough flour and yeast to bake a half dozen loaves of bread. I am not going to do anything else.
I suspect the "order online, pick up at the curb" services grocery stores are doing will get even more use so people can stay in the protective bubble of their car.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »I'm not stocking up on anything here in the US in a state with no reported cases. That said, I always have ample dried goods and shelf stable foods. We always have costco-quantities of soy milk (no refrigeration needed), quinoa-rice packets, meal pouches (tastybite), ramen, cereal, granola bars, dried fruits (craisens), oatmeal, nuts, baking ingredients (bread, cookies, pie), and soylent. I always keep the pantry full so I'm not tempted to eat out and because I love to bake.
It's not about whether there are reported cases locally (unless all the products you depend on are grown, processed, and packaged locally). It's about whether the supply chain for the products you depend on breaks because the factories involved are closed as a public health measure or because so many of the people who work there are sick or caring for those who are sick that they can't function.
It's also about ensuring you have everything you need, before you need it. Enough to get through if you get sick yourself, and enough to get through if you come in contact with someone who has it and have to self isolate.3 -
I stopped at the supermarket on the way home. They were out of cucumbers. Clearly a sign that the end is nigh. Toilet paper was in plentiful supply, and I have added another 18 pack to my cupboard.lynn_glenmont wrote: »
I think some of it is panic by irrational people. I suppose some of it may be people who because they are retired or telecommute or are independently wealthy can plan to just stay home for weeks or even months (which also seems like an overreaction to me).
It's not an over reaction if you're someone more susceptible to complications. I fully intend to hunker down if it comes to it. I would rather over react, than under react. But again, I'm part of the minority that needs to be that bit more cautious.10 -
Toilet paper: Keep in mind that people in the good ol' days used pages from the Sears Roebuck catalog out in the outhouse. Obviously, there's no Sears catalog any more, but if you have the usual supply of National Geographic or whatever in your basement, you're in good shape. Even pages from the zombie apocalypse books will work, in a pinch.
Don't flush it, though: Sewage system clogs are a whole other problem.
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Toilet paper: Keep in mind that people in the good ol' days used pages from the Sears Roebuck catalog out in the outhouse. Obviously, there's no Sears catalog any more, but if you have the usual supply of National Geographic or whatever in your basement, you're in good shape. Even pages from the zombie apocalypse books will work, in a pinch.
Don't flush it, though: Sewage system clogs are a whole other problem.
You can use a squirt-type water bottle to mimic a bidet to take care of cleansing after #1, and save your TP for #2. I sometimes do this when backpacking. It’s refreshing. You can also use all sorts of baby and personal wipes instead of TP (just don’t flush them). But honestly, do we really think the nation is going to run out of TP?
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Panic is not a good idea . Instead cautious awareness.
Wash your hands
Keep your hands away from your face, mouth , nose
Use hand sanitizer
Cough into elbow not hands
Social distance ie skip handshake instead smile and maybe peace sign , give a bit more space
^^This! Thank you.
Peeps, please stay calm. Like someone else noted, being prepared is good, but panicking won't do anyone any good. Peace.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
Same for us. I'm not terribly concerned about the virus but of the surrounding panic that will cause empty store shelves and panic about people going out in public. We haven't bought anything yet, but we are going to stock up on things like oats, frozen fruits and veggies, frozen meat, boxed macaroni and cheese, and crackers. And probably flour and sugar so we can still make cookies
Flour for making bread is at the top of my list
I'm also going to buy canned tuna, peanut butter, rice, beans, shelf stable fruit, etc.
As for P&G products, they make my brand of toilet paper, so I'm definitely buying a big thing of that.
All my friends thought I was crazy when I invested my money in canned food and shotguns after the "crash". Who's laughing at me now?
P.S. Has anyone else noted that this is how many zombie apocalypse movies start?
I'm more a fan of apocalypse books (zombies not required), my favorite being "The Stand" by Stephen King. That did indeed start out with flu-like symptoms.
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cmriverside wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I currently have 4 children knocked out with flu like symptoms... it’s been days of high fevers, crazy coughing, etc. I “joke” that it could be coronavirus, but we’ll never know since they can’t test for it yet! (Although I am seeing headlines that tests are making their way around). We are on the outskirts of DC, a “bedroom community” for people that work in the city, so lots of potential to bring it in. Haven’t been to the doctor, we homeschool so no need to expose them to anything else if the symptoms are treatable at home (we have been often enough to have the needed meds for her croup) so not 100% sure what it is.
Wednesday is when it started, I thought my daughter was reacting to some bags of soil I bought - her cough started within minutes of being in the car with them. Super sensitive lungs, at age 8 she gets croup that shuts down her airways with any airborne irritant (no longer able to even swim in indoor chlorine pools). I went to buy a mask for her since we still had 45 minutes in the car to get home and found the supply wiped out... at multiple stores. Didn’t know what was going on, until the guy at the hardware store told me why the shelves were cleared.
We would be ones that would need to stock up on water, our well water is awful to try and drink... something I took for granted when we lived in NC with well water so good we could bottle and sell it.
They CAN test for it, the test gets sent to CDC in Atlanta. Those symptoms sound the same as COVID 19 symptoms are...I do hope they are okay. The cough and fever are the main thing, and having trouble breathing.
In the Seattle area (according to the press conference today) the government labs are up to 200 tests per day, University of WA just today came online to do 200 more, they hope to gear up to a total of 2000 tests daily between the two labs within a couple days. Turnaround time on the test appears to be about one day.
If you want you can go to KOMO News and watch the King County news conference.
We're up to six deaths now.
I saw someone post in another forum that the test is not cheap- like in the area of $2-3000. Anyone know about this? If true, I don't think I'd seek testing for myself or a family member unless they were high-risk.
Edited to add: Just happened to see this as well- https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/02/811314938/coronavirus-testing-what-to-know-as-it-becomes-available-across-the-u-s2 -
We got our first reported case in the country yesterday. We're not really stocking up on food items or planning to. The main worry for my mom, in particular, is financial. My mom is a dentist and sterile surgical mask prices have gone through the roof. We're talking like or so for a pack of 50 of the cheapest kind that used to be priced at no more than , let alone the more expensive ones she used to buy. If this shortage persists it's going to be a problem. We're hoping this doesn't end up extending to sterile gloves because she goes through those fast.4
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It's also saddening that many people're unable to afford to prepare, beyond their day to day.11
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amusedmonkey wrote: »We got our first reported case in the country yesterday. We're not really stocking up on food items or planning to. The main worry for my mom, in particular, is financial. My mom is a dentist and sterile surgical mask prices have gone through the roof. We're talking like or so for a pack of 50 of the cheapest kind that used to be priced at no more than , let alone the more expensive ones she used to buy. If this shortage persists it's going to be a problem. We're hoping this doesn't end up extending to sterile gloves because she goes through those fast.
Wow, why was the price removed? Are they moderating surgical mask prices? Well, basically, the price went up 1500-1600% or so.4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »We got our first reported case in the country yesterday. We're not really stocking up on food items or planning to. The main worry for my mom, in particular, is financial. My mom is a dentist and sterile surgical mask prices have gone through the roof. We're talking like or so for a pack of 50 of the cheapest kind that used to be priced at no more than , let alone the more expensive ones she used to buy. If this shortage persists it's going to be a problem. We're hoping this doesn't end up extending to sterile gloves because she goes through those fast.
Wow, why was the price removed? Are they moderating surgical mask prices? Well, basically, the price went up 1500-1600% or so.
I wish that I saw it, normally there'd be an "edited by moderator" posting. My guess' it was because of the people that attempt to sell their stuff/service here.1
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