Weight hasn’t budged for 2 months
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RidingTowardEverywhere wrote: »So, for science, I just checked the way I measure PB. Here are the results:
Is the leveled off tablespoon 17 grams? I can't tell.2 -
I weigh everything! Less dishes!
I put my PB jar on the scale, TARE the scale to zero, then scoop out the PB I'm going to use. No tablespoon to wash!12 -
Would suggest whenever you make a significant change (calorie level, macros, sodium, exercise volume or intensity etc. etc.) you try for 4 weeks of consistency to see the real impact of those changes.
If you keep rapidly making changes you will never see what works or understand why. Look much further forward rather than week to week.
Plus do ditch those measuring cups and spoons as has already been suggested. Those volume measuring not weight measuring methods must feature in about 90% of threads like this where people's results don't match expectations.14 -
@quiksylver296 yep! 17 grams on the dot.0
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Maybe get a peanut butter substitute like PB2 and see if you like the taste. It's way easier to weigh and I feel like you get more out of it. It's a powder you mix with water and you can "lighten it up" and get more by adding a little extra water that is zero calories.0
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I’ll just try to weigh everything, guess that seems to be the way. As well as talk to my GP. Trying to feel better about it, but I just weighed out my breakfast to hit 280 cals and it’s actually more than the normal serving size I eat, so I may have even overestimated previously -_-4
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Would suggest whenever you make a significant change (calorie level, macros, sodium, exercise volume or intensity etc. etc.) you try for 4 weeks of consistency to see the real impact of those changes.
If you keep rapidly making changes you will never see what works or understand why. Look much further forward rather than week to week.
That was my first thought too: dont switch strategies so fast, give it time. Exercise changes, carb changes, calorie changes and on top of that (I presume) your monthly cycle could all be 'playing' with your water weight and masking fat loss. But you need a good 4 weeks to determine the trend and see if you need to change your strategy or not.8 -
@sijomial and @Lietchi i can agree with that. I’ll keep trying the low carb out, I was doing noom over two months and except four that first week, so I think worrying about calorie density was not the way. I have high hopes for the low carb, going to keep pushing forward, be sure to weigh everything and talk to my gp. Thanks everyone!4
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So let's look at the other side of the equation: calories out. How do you measure your calorie burns? Workout equipment tends to overestimate the calorie burns for me, and so does my Fitbit.4
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quiksylver296 wrote: »RidingTowardEverywhere wrote: »@quicksylver0922 I generally use measuring cups and measuring spoons for anything with a recipe. Leveled measuring spoons for fats, liquids, etc. using the scale for meats, fruit and veg, and generally not touching grains right now but would use four that as well.
Try weighing it instead, just to be sure.
This is great advice. Use a scale only.0 -
Mithridites wrote: »So let's look at the other side of the equation: calories out. How do you measure your calorie burns? Workout equipment tends to overestimate the calorie burns for me, and so does my Fitbit.
I think this is a big culprit, too, since you mentioned that you are feeling really fatigued (which could be a result of cutting down the carbs; I know many folks experience the "keto flu" when cutting carbs, but I don't know if cutting down to 25% would still cause that). That means you are moving less - you probably aren't as fidgety, aren't exercising at the same intensity, etc - and that is lowering your CO, so the differently between CO and CI is now smaller.
Are you counting back exercise calories, and if so, how are you arriving at the amount you are counting back?
When you set up your MFP account, did you go through the guided setup? What activity level did you choose? If you chose, for instance, active as your level to account for your exercise, but you aren't exercising at that level, then you'd be eating more calories than you should. For my level, there's around a 200 calorie difference or so (maybe a little more) between stages-sedentary to lightly active to active.
What loss rate did you choose?
Water weight can be a real pain and can linger for days - some people have seen as much as 5 lbs water weight linger for up to 2 weeks. Other folks don't get losses regularly on the scale; water weight will hold on for weeks, and then suddenly drop with a woosh. New exercise, more extreme exercise than normal, heat and humidity, constipation - there are a lot of things that can cause water weight. As others have suggested, I'd agree with the idea of sticking to one thing, giving it 4 to 6 weeks, and then adjusting based upon that 6 week average result.
I highly, highly recommend this article - especially the section on the experiences of women:
http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations/3 -
Do you eat your exercise calories back? Maybe you are overestimating those? From what I have read about PCOS, your TDEE may be significantly lower than expected for age, weight, and height.0
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I understand your frustration. I have Hashimoto's syndrome as well as mild insulin resistance (not diabetic) and I have been maintaining on 1200 calories total (not net) since last September. Weighing most everything with very few exceptions on a food scale and not eating my exercise calories in order to cover any minor logging errors to ensure a deficit. I almost never eat out and prepare my own food. Anything prepackaged gets weighed always. I am 5'3", 42 yrs, female and maintained at 174 plus or minus a lb. I am listed as sedentary due to desk job but I get over 10,000 steps per day of deliberate exercise.
I have, in the past few weeks, cut my calories to under 1000 total again not eating back exercise. Giving me an average net in the 600 per day range. As of this morning I am 170.8 so it is working but still slow.
I get that this is not the norm for the vast majority of people (and I'm sure I will get pooh poohed by people who think I'm full of hogwash) but medical issues can and do definitely have an effect on things. No doubt about it. I should be able to lose on way way more but I cannot. And I have a nearly 2 year streak on mfp with a total of 59 lbs lost so I'm not new to things. And yes it took me that long to lose that much (minus the past few months I've been maintaining) and that was at 1200 per day.
I do have an appt with my endocrinologist in 2 weeks and I intend to show him my data from here and see if there are any solutions. I know net calories of 6-700 cannot be healthy and so we will have a discussion on what to do moving forward.
I highly advise an appt with a specialist as it sounds like you are having a similar issue.
It is so disheartening to work so hard and be so meticulous in logging and not see results. And I am militaristic about accuracy.
Good luck!4 -
I had a look into your diary. Not for this week but a random day last week and just comment on what I see here.
1 large egg: 86 calories - I had a medium-sized egg and it came in at 96 calories.
3 slices of bacon - how heavy is a single slice of bacon and how much fat was on it? Is the entry you used from specifically that bacon? Bacon comes in at around 550 calories per 100 grams, thus 120 calories would roughly be 21 grams of bacon. For three slices. They must be very thin!
1 medium avocado 240 calories - did you weigh it?
1 cup cottage cheese - did you weigh it? cottage cheese can be easily compressed into a cup, thus the amount you can put in varies largely
1/2 tbsp olive oil: the average tbsp holds about 15ml, but it depends on how big the spoon is. Mine can easily hold 20ml, and it's easy to pile on more with oil
0.22 cup of corn - how did you measure that?
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On this single day I saw nothing that looked as if it was put on a scale to be honest. Plus you only seem to have started logging on that day. The week before that has no logged entry at all.
I would say weigh everything precisely for a few weeks, using correct database entries. With more data it will be possible to give better advice. Just a week is not enough.11 -
In the OP's defense, just because the log says 0.22 cup of corn doesn't mean it wasn't weighed out. Most packaged products I use gives teh serving in cups and grams, but the entry in MFP only shows cups for the same calorie value. I'll weigh it out in grams to a serving, then just use whatever entry has the correct nutritional information, whether it shows it in grams or cups.
Same thing with the cottage cheese - kroger low fat cottage cheese is 113g in a 1/2 cup serving and is 90 calories. The entry in the MFP database says 1/2 cup, and I use that entry, even though I actually weighed out 113g.13 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »In the OP's defense, just because the log says 0.22 cup of corn doesn't mean it wasn't weighed out. Most packaged products I use gives teh serving in cups and grams, but the entry in MFP only shows cups for the same calorie value. I'll weigh it out in grams to a serving, then just use whatever entry has the correct nutritional information, whether it shows it in grams or cups.
Same thing with the cottage cheese - kroger low fat cottage cheese is 113g in a 1/2 cup serving and is 90 calories. The entry in the MFP database says 1/2 cup, and I use that entry, even though I actually weighed out 113g.
I do this as well, so my diary is full of things like "1.08 Kroger bakery chocolate chunk cookie."6 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »In the OP's defense, just because the log says 0.22 cup of corn doesn't mean it wasn't weighed out. Most packaged products I use gives teh serving in cups and grams, but the entry in MFP only shows cups for the same calorie value. I'll weigh it out in grams to a serving, then just use whatever entry has the correct nutritional information, whether it shows it in grams or cups.
Same thing with the cottage cheese - kroger low fat cottage cheese is 113g in a 1/2 cup serving and is 90 calories. The entry in the MFP database says 1/2 cup, and I use that entry, even though I actually weighed out 113g.
Yes, ok. But it doesn't change that there seem to be many unprecise measurements, and that there's only one week of tracking.4 -
@bmeadows380 I think it's less keto flu (I'm not keto) and more just the huge change in carbs. On noom I was eating probably 250 carbs in a day, just because of the fruit I ate for low calorie density. I chose sedentary for my activity level since I'm no longer commuting. I do usually (save for this week) do 30 minutes to one hour of zumba-esque workouts and set it to low effort since I'd rather not fudge the calories burned. On weekends I'm doing 20-30 miles of intermediate mountain biking
@nooshi713 do you happen to know the formula for the PCOS TDEE? I have a feeling you're right. As an example, when I was a teenager I lost about 50 lbs over a year in what would qualify for most people as an eating disorder. I ate 400-600 calories a day, all salads no dressing. As soon as I ate like a normal person again I ballooned up :- ( Not to mention during this weight loss attempt, I had the super stressed week where I was only getting about 900 calories a day and that's when I lost 2lbs in a week. It might make sense that I just have an extremely low caloric need. which is such a bummer, I really am doing okay on measuring. Been weighing my foods all day and the portions are matched up to what I normally do within 25 calories difference (higher or lower) each meal0 -
RidingTowardEverywhere wrote: »@bmeadows380 I think it's less keto flu (I'm not keto) and more just the huge change in carbs. On noom I was eating probably 250 carbs in a day, just because of the fruit I ate for low calorie density. I chose sedentary for my activity level since I'm no longer commuting. I do usually (save for this week) do 30 minutes to one hour of zumba-esque workouts and set it to low effort since I'd rather not fudge the calories burned. On weekends I'm doing 20-30 miles of intermediate mountain biking
@nooshi713 do you happen to know the formula for the PCOS TDEE? I have a feeling you're right. As an example, when I was a teenager I lost about 50 lbs over a year in what would qualify for most people as an eating disorder. I ate 400-600 calories a day, all salads no dressing. As soon as I ate like a normal person again I ballooned up :- ( Not to mention during this weight loss attempt, I had the super stressed week where I was only getting about 900 calories a day and that's when I lost 2lbs in a week. It might make sense that I just have an extremely low caloric need. which is such a bummer, I really am doing okay on measuring. Been weighing my foods all day and the portions are matched up to what I normally do within 25 calories difference (higher or lower) each meal
You don't have an extremely low calorie need. The minimum a sedentary female should be eating is 1200 calories a day. I also have PCOS and I'm losing about a lb a week at almost 1600 calories a day, and that's not including exercise.9 -
@sassymom25 thank you for the encouragement. Honestly, helps more than you know, it's kinda frustrating to have to show over and over that I'm measuring things correctly and that I'm not "cheating". Last weekend I was so super careful about my logging and I tried to do mountain biking again, almost passed out, did throw up, and had to take a long break just to continue. And yet everyone doesn't believe that I'm trying. I really appreciate knowing that there are other people out there that are also struggling like this, but also pushing through.4
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