Extremeish weight fluctuation?
stargirlhorse
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How much weight fluctuation is normal? Because I counted my calories, ate 1500 or less every day (with only ONE exception) when the internet says my BMR is 1600, and gained ONE AND A HALF F***ING POUNDS OVER FIVE DAYS? I also gained a HALF INCH (yes you read that right. a HALF INCH when measured in the morning with no food and after having used the bathroom) around my waist both at the bellybutton and smallest point.
This is literally the opposite of what I'm trying to do. My lowest weight was at 121 a few months ago and then it decided to go up to 122ish. Now I'm 123.6 (my scale doesn't do odd decimals for whatever reason). Or 122.8. Depending on the way I stood on it... but that's beside the point. Scales might be wack but waist measurements don't lie. It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I admit I wasn't drinking enough water, but that shouldn't be too bad over 5 days... and gaining 1.5 pounds? (Maybe 2.5?) And while my period IS late for 8 days, I am completely sure that I am not pregnant since I'm still a virgin. While doing everything RIGHT??
I tried eating 1200 when at 121 and couldn't lose a SINGLE pound for a month. How do I lose these pounds?
5'5, 18 years old, Asian female.
35 (bust), 32 (under bust), 27.5 (waist at smallest), 32 (waist at bellybutton), 35 (hip).
This is literally the opposite of what I'm trying to do. My lowest weight was at 121 a few months ago and then it decided to go up to 122ish. Now I'm 123.6 (my scale doesn't do odd decimals for whatever reason). Or 122.8. Depending on the way I stood on it... but that's beside the point. Scales might be wack but waist measurements don't lie. It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I admit I wasn't drinking enough water, but that shouldn't be too bad over 5 days... and gaining 1.5 pounds? (Maybe 2.5?) And while my period IS late for 8 days, I am completely sure that I am not pregnant since I'm still a virgin. While doing everything RIGHT??
I tried eating 1200 when at 121 and couldn't lose a SINGLE pound for a month. How do I lose these pounds?
5'5, 18 years old, Asian female.
35 (bust), 32 (under bust), 27.5 (waist at smallest), 32 (waist at bellybutton), 35 (hip).
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Tomorrow is also my friend's birthday and they're expecting me to eat a slice of ~500 calorie ice cream cake. Her mom is also buying us all starbucks so I have to get a drink from there. AND I think we're going out to eat and I don't know what I'm gonna do tomorrow.0
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stargirlhorse wrote: »It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
You are normal BMI.. if you want to lose weight around any part of your body you just need to exercise that area.
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weight3049 wrote: »stargirlhorse wrote: »It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
You are normal BMI.. if you want to lose weight around any part of your body you just need to exercise that area.
I know spot reduction's a myth. If it wasn't, I'd have abs since I've been doing abs stuff for months.5 -
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Some women’s weight can fluctuate 5-10 pounds depending on where they are in their cycle.5
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At the bottom of the article the author suggests "Instead, focus on body measurements"
I gained a half inch around my waist.1 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »
At the bottom of the article the author suggests "Instead, focus on body measurements"
I gained a half inch around my waist.
I gain inches around my waist too but it is not fat weight. It’s just gas from to much food, like today, too many fresh cherries. It is hysterical to look at but it is what it is. It’s just gas in the intestines.8 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »weight3049 wrote: »stargirlhorse wrote: »It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
You are normal BMI.. if you want to lose weight around any part of your body you just need to exercise that area.
I know spot reduction's a myth. If it wasn't, I'd have abs since I've been doing abs stuff for months.
You have abs. Maybe not visible to the naked eye, but you definitely do have them.
Apart from menstrual cycle issues, which definitely cause random bloats and swelling that affect both weight and measurements, you could have just eaten something unsuitable. Example: 2 days ago I had some pizza that turned out to be very unsuitable for my stomach. I usually sleep on my stomach but couldn’t do it that night because my stomach was so swollen it felt like laying on a ball. I didn’t try my jeans and belt on that day, but based on previous experience I’d guess it was 2 belt notches, so about 3 inches of temporary bloat gain. And yeah, I was up 2lbs the next morning.5 -
So... since 1" of fat on the stomach cannot happen overnight you already KNOW that it is not fat... right?
So either this is normal... or requires a visit to the doctor to investigate if it is both abnormal and concerning enough...7 -
You don’t have a weight problem, you have an unreasonable expectations problem. You’ve let all the media images of photoshopped, posed genetical outliers into your head and you’re letting them ruin your emotional well-being. At your (normal and healthy) weight the only way to lose weight and inches is SLOWLY. But I’m telling you right now, as honestly as only a complete stranger having no interest or possible motive to lie can: you don’t need to. So by all means continue to exercise: it can help you control your stress and set you up for good health now and in later life. By all means continue to track what you eat and make sure you hit the nutrient targets on MFP : the calcium and iron ones are very important for us as women. If you really want, do keep a SMALL calorie deficit going, like maybe 0.5 pounds per week. But it will take MONTHS, not days, to lose a measly pound or two, because your weight is so close to perfection. Why not invest this time instead into building emotional resiliency, so you can look at those unrealistic images and know they cannot waver your confidence, impact your self-esteem, nor do what they’re really designed for: make you buy their product.16
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Hear, hear! @Mithridites!
I makes me so sad to see all these threads from particularly young ladies, who feel the grass is so much greener somewhere else, and put so much pressure on themselves.
It was bad when I was a teen in the 70’s, but my God, with the advent of social media, and the photoshopping and posing that goes with it, they must feel like they’re in a pressure cooker of judgement.
I live in a historic and scenic town center. It sickens me to walk through town and see hordes of overly made up (and often underly dressed) young girls posing for social media pictures. It’s just nonstop. I have to zig zag around then because they block the walking trail trying to get the perfect shot in front of the town mural or the rustic doorways. Vanity has gotten outta hand.
I know I’m an old lady, but honey, look yourself in the mirror, whisper “I love you as you are”, and step off the merry go round.
There’s just more to life.11 -
This is totally normal and just how our bodies work. Females especially, weight and inches fluctuate depending on types of food eaten, if there's food left in our intestines still digesting, if we're at a certain point in our menstrual cycle. It doesn't mean you put on fat. It means you're human.6
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stargirlhorse wrote: »weight3049 wrote: »stargirlhorse wrote: »It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
You are normal BMI.. if you want to lose weight around any part of your body you just need to exercise that area.
I know spot reduction's a myth. If it wasn't, I'd have abs since I've been doing abs stuff for months.
You have abs. Maybe not visible to the naked eye, but you definitely do have them.
Apart from menstrual cycle issues, which definitely cause random bloats and swelling that affect both weight and measurements, you could have just eaten something unsuitable... (cut).
I don't have any food allergies/reactions, though?
@Mithridites and @springlering62 - I know there are some things that're absolutely unreasonable to ask of an everyday person. Some things just don't look real and celebrities get called on it ("[random number] of photoshop fails"). HOWEVER, it IS possible to have a thin body. It IS possible to have a small waist. I know several people, all of whom I have seen in real life, with small waists. I have seen these people both posing for pictures and standing normally in body revealing clothes, and they still have small waists. I have even seen them straight after eating with- you guessed it! small waists. So my expectations aren't actually unreasonable... maybe not a 24" waist, but I feel I could get down to 25".
On another note, why has eating at "maintenance" caused me to gain weight? Yes, I'm accurately logging everything. MFP maintenance is 1,660. Someone else said 2,000+. And a third set of numbers gave me 1596. So, naturally, to be safe, I set it at 1,500.
And here I am with my extra pounds consistently over a few months. (May, June, July, now August.) Whaaaaaaaaa3 -
Can we flag this post because I feel like it’s heading into/currently floundering in ED waters11
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1. A couple of pounds is not either "extreme" or "extremish."
2. Measurements may fluctuate because of tape location differences, water weight, posture, food being processed through your digestive system
3. You are 18 and your body has not yet settled into "adult female"
4. Compassion for oneself is not an over-rated quality10 -
120 lbs is on the lower end of ideal, depending on how tall you are. There are many medical charts that show this. Anything less and you could be doing more harm than good.
With where you are at...
Caloric deficit alone will not get rid of the visceral fat (the midsection fat) around your midsection. A mix of strength training and cardio (pushing your limits), as well as timely and fine-tuned nutrition will. You could continue to reduce calories, but all you will see is your legs and arms get smaller. Seek out a trainer at the college that can help you with this, because you really need to strength train. It wont take a few days, or a few weeks. It might take a year or so, depending on where you are at.
Also, if your "friends" will poke fun at you for this, or will claim you are the "embarassment," you really need to find actual friends. You are young, though. You will have to navigate that ship yourself.
Take care. And props to holding onto your chastity. That is less seen nowadays.5 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »How much weight fluctuation is normal? Because I counted my calories, ate 1500 or less every day (with only ONE exception) when the internet says my BMR is 1600, and gained ONE AND A HALF F***ING POUNDS OVER FIVE DAYS? I also gained a HALF INCH (yes you read that right. a HALF INCH when measured in the morning with no food and after having used the bathroom) around my waist both at the bellybutton and smallest point.
This is literally the opposite of what I'm trying to do. My lowest weight was at 121 a few months ago and then it decided to go up to 122ish. Now I'm 123.6 (my scale doesn't do odd decimals for whatever reason). Or 122.8. Depending on the way I stood on it... but that's beside the point. Scales might be wack but waist measurements don't lie. It's freaking 27.5"/32" and I am literally abdominally obese.
I don't want this big waist measurement anymore and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I admit I wasn't drinking enough water, but that shouldn't be too bad over 5 days... and gaining 1.5 pounds? (Maybe 2.5?) And while my period IS late for 8 days, I am completely sure that I am not pregnant since I'm still a virgin. While doing everything RIGHT??
I tried eating 1200 when at 121 and couldn't lose a SINGLE pound for a month. How do I lose these pounds?
5'5, 18 years old, Asian female.
35 (bust), 32 (under bust), 27.5 (waist at smallest), 32 (waist at bellybutton), 35 (hip).
As a female with a menstrual cycle, what would be abnormal would be NOT having water weight fluctuations in that range.
How long have you been tracking your weight? I can tell from looking at my chart when I was ovulating and premenstrual.7 -
Strength training and eating cleanish probably would help. I would focus on being healthy and happy and grateful you don't have a real weight problem. I have been down the unhealthy body image road you don't want to go on. You can't spot train only overall body fat matters. What does your diet and workouts look like?1
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Hanibanani2020 wrote: »Can we flag this post because I feel like it’s heading into/currently floundering in ED waters
I am literally abdominally obese as defined by the world health organization. I make sure to eat at least 1,200 calories per day. And finally, I've never touched a laxative or made myself throw up. Therefore, I do not have an eating disorder.
-1. A couple of pounds is not either "extreme" or "extremish."
2. Measurements may fluctuate because of tape location differences, water weight, posture, food being processed through your digestive system
3. You are 18 and your body has not yet settled into "adult female"
4. Compassion for oneself is not an over-rated quality
I've made sure to measure my waist at the exact same point every time I do it. For the smallest point, I suck in as much as I can, find the point, and place the tape. For the other part, I do it in the middle of my bellybutton. Both times, I'm standing as straight as I can, and I make it "official" when I breathe out.
-josh2452180 wrote: »120 lbs is on the lower end of ideal, depending on how tall you are. (cut)Seek out a trainer at the college that can help you with this, because you really need to strength train. It wont take a few days, or a few weeks. It might take a year or so, depending on where you are at. (cut)
I will definitely be joining the "go to the gym club." I have a friend who's a super slim and into fitness, so I might ask her for a workout plan even though she's going to a different school. Also, I'm 5'5.5.1 -
At my lowest weight I was in the unhealthy range based on my BMI, and I was considered obese using my hip waist ratio. I was 5'7 and weight under 110 lbs. I had stopped having my period, and was suffering from blackouts.
Just because you don't take pills or make yourself throw up doesn't mean you aren't already on the path towards an eating disorder.
OP based off this would you have considered me an obese person?8 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
As a female with a menstrual cycle, what would be abnormal would be NOT having water weight fluctuations in that range.
How long have you been tracking your weight? I can tell from looking at my chart when I was ovulating and premenstrual.
Since about April 6, but not on a super consistent schedule. However, I DO remember one day stepping on the scale during the front end of my period, thinking "jfc this number's probably gonna be higher" and then it came out lower. And then I went "wtf... but okay? Yay!"
-AshHeartsJesus wrote: »Strength training and eating cleanish probably would help. I would focus on being healthy and happy and grateful you don't have a real weight problem. I have been down the unhealthy body image road you don't want to go on. You can't spot train only overall body fat matters. What does your diet and workouts look like?
I'm trying to strength train but I'm having to rely on youtube workouts (like I do Chloe Ting's arm 10 minute arm workout on arm days) to get anything done since we don't have weights in my house and I don't officially start college for a few weeks. I try to do some sort of exercise each day, whether it be a walk or youtuber fitness girl workout (Chloe Ting/Madfit, those people). But with each of those, I aim for 100 "active' calories.
As for my diet, since I started wanting to lose weight and got MFP, I have been eating 1500 calories or less (with the exception of a day or two once a month). I keep my macros somewhere in the "acceptable macronutrient daily range" and try to eat as much protein as I can. I try to eat as little saturated fat as I can and keep the sodium and added sugar intakes low. (I ignore it when I add a fruit and it says "this food is high in sugar.")
Also, as for your "real weight problem" comment, as I've said before, I'm abdominally obese, so, actually, I do have a real weight problem.
(Edit: spotted a typo oops. Fixed it!)1 -
stargirlhorse wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
As a female with a menstrual cycle, what would be abnormal would be NOT having water weight fluctuations in that range.
How long have you been tracking your weight? I can tell from looking at my chart when I was ovulating and premenstrual.
Since about April 6, but not on a super consistent schedule. However, I DO remember one day stepping on the scale during the front end of my period, thinking "jfc this number's probably gonna be higher" and then it came out lower. And then I went "wtf... but okay? Yay!"
-AshHeartsJesus wrote: »Strength training and eating cleanish probably would help. I would focus on being healthy and happy and grateful you don't have a real weight problem. I have been down the unhealthy body image road you don't want to go on. You can't spot train only overall body fat matters. What does your diet and workouts look like?
I'm trying to strength train but I'm having to rely on youtube workouts (like I do Chloe Ting's arm 10 minute arm workout on arm days) to get anything done since we don't have weights in my house and I don't officially start college for a few weeks. I try to do some sort of exercise each day, whether it be a walk or youtuber fitness girl workout (Chloe Ting/Madfit, those people). But with each of those, I aim for 100 "active' calories.
As for my diet, since I started wanting to lose weight and got MFP, I have been eating 1500 calories or less (with the exception of a day or two once a month). I keep my macros somewhere in the "acceptable macronutrient daily range" and try to eat as much protein as I can. I try to eat as little saturated fat as I can and keep the sodium and added sugar intakes low. (I ignore it when I add a fruit and it says "this food is high in sugar.")
Also, as for your "real weight problem" comment, as I've said before, I'm abdominally obese, so, actually, I do have a real weight problem.
(Edit: spotted a typo oops. Fixed it!)
I don't post here often anymore but I do read posts daily. I have to comment though as I am concerned for you. I have seen you make posts similar to this one quite often and you kind of remind me of myself when my way of thinking and eating was disordered. I'm not saying this as an insult, but as a suggestion for you to take a step back, breathe, and reassess.
Abdominal obesity starts at a waist measurement greater than 35 inches for women. That isn't you; you are not abdominally obese. Furthermore, you've stated your period is eight days late. That, and general stress causing a rise in cortisol, can be contributors to water weight gain thus resulting in your waist measurement and scale weight being larger than they actually are.
You're only 18, so your body is still growing and changing and many people have written this to you. You trying to resist and manipulate that may be causing additional stress on your body; I'd say the eight day late period is pretty good evidence of that stress. In fact, at your age, this is the prime time to start working on your body composition by incorporating resistance training on a regular basis. You won't get bulky and will probably come closer to the body type you're aiming for this way.
I understand your stress. At the peak of my disordered habits, knowing full and well that I "gain" about three pounds during ovulation AND right before my period, I would still beat myself up if the scale shot up. I cut calories too hard and my body rebelled through binge/restrict cycles. On days that I ate more food, my weight would shoot up by five pounds and my stomach and face would swell like a balloon which led to further negative self talk and guilt. Even when those binges still had me at an overall deficit or maintenance for the week, I'd see that five pound gain and freak out.
What stopped all of that was taking a step back and reassessing my habits. I let my body just do its thing, ate intuitively, and just kept exercising. The binges stopped, I dropped seven pounds, and my mental health improved. One thing I've learned the hard way, more than once, is that the body cannot be micromanaged, especially to an unhealthy degree, no matter how hard you try. Either the body wins by stabilizing itself or you win by putting yourself in the hospital with extremely disordered habits.
I'm not going to say I'm fully free from my disordered habits but when I feel them coming on, I remind myself that those habits made my progress take ten steps back and if I just had patience to begin with, I would have probably had greater progress over the past few years.
Your weight is currently at the lower end of the BMI scale; getting on the cusp of underweight shouldn't be the goal. Your body is most likely trying to tell you it really doesn't want to be there either. You can be 115 pounds but have more bodyfat than at 125 pounds with more muscle. Your weight is just one part of a much larger picture.
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Like many other replies, I agree that you’re measurements are normal.
I’m not Asian, but I do know that in Asian culture, your measurements would seem large in comparison to the typical extreme lean young Asian female frame. And in that culture the pressure for perfection goes beyond waist measurements. So, I understand why you believe you should be able to reduce your waist by another 7 inches.
The reality of it, is that your body may not be built for a 25 inch waist and if you are able to get there, it may be an overall detriment to your health.
Having said all that to continue to make progress I suggest:
Weight training — add more muscle to your frame
Monitor your macros — you may need more protein
Here’s a strange one — you may need to eat more calories. You’ll need that to build the muscle.
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Tell me about it... I'm also asian and 18 AND 5'5, and my current weight is 134, goal weight is 120ish. It's so frustrating when weight fluctuates...1
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Maxematics wrote: »
I don't post here often anymore but I do read posts daily. I have to comment though as I am concerned for you. I have seen you make posts similar to this one quite often and you kind of remind me of myself when my way of thinking and eating was disordered. I'm not saying this as an insult, but as a suggestion for you to take a step back, breathe, and reassess.
Abdominal obesity starts at a waist measurement greater than 35 inches for women. That isn't you; you are not abdominally obese. Furthermore, you've stated your period is eight days late. That, and general stress causing a rise in cortisol, can be contributors to water weight gain thus resulting in your waist measurement and scale weight being larger than they actually are.
You're only 18, so your body is still growing and changing and many people have written this to you. You trying to resist and manipulate that may be causing additional stress on your body; I'd say the eight day late period is pretty good evidence of that stress. In fact, at your age, this is the prime time to start working on your body composition by incorporating resistance training on a regular basis. You won't get bulky and will probably come closer to the body type you're aiming for this way.
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Your weight is currently at the lower end of the BMI scale; getting on the cusp of underweight shouldn't be the goal. Your body is most likely trying to tell you it really doesn't want to be there either. You can be 115 pounds but have more bodyfat than at 125 pounds with more muscle. Your weight is just one part of a much larger picture.
You incorrect; I am abdominally obese. As I mentioned in my original post, I am Asian, and for some reason, we are abdominally obese at smaller measurements than other people. This link from Harvard Medical states that 80 cm is where one becomes abdominally obese. This is 31.4961 inches according to Google's conversion. My waist is 32, and therefore, by definition and waist measurement, I am abdominally obese.
The World Health Organization also states "Chinese and South Asian men and women display a greater amount of visceral adipose
tissue for a given waist circumference than Europeans (Lear et al., 2007b). Similarly, a
higher percentage of body fat across a range of waist circumference values has been
documented in East Asia (Kagawa et al., 2007)." (page 10 of the linked document above)
I have been trying strength training as mentioned before, but again, as I have said before, we do not have weights. I am using YouTuber workouts.1 -
I also don't understand why my stupid body won't burn calories. I have a friend who's the same height as me and only like 20 pounds heavier than me and can burn like 900 "move" calories on the apple watch just by existing, doing her everyday activities, and going for a ~3-4 mile run. I went for a 3.43 mile run at a 12'29" pace and only burnt 341 move calories??? I think her biggest burn was 2,100 in a single day. And I have never been able to burn more than 6-700, even when I spent like an hour in the gym? We are both women, the only real difference is the 20-pound weight difference.1
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stargirlhorse wrote: »I also don't understand why my stupid body won't burn calories. I have a friend who's the same height as me and only like 20 pounds heavier than me and can burn like 900 "move" calories on the apple watch just by existing, doing her everyday activities, and going for a ~3-4 mile run. I went for a 3.43 mile run at a 12'29" pace and only burnt 341 move calories??? I think her biggest burn was 2,100 in a single day. And I have never been able to burn more than 6-700, even when I spent like an hour in the gym? We are both women, the only real difference is the 20-pound weight difference.
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stargirlhorse wrote: »I also don't understand why my stupid body won't burn calories. I have a friend who's the same height as me and only like 20 pounds heavier than me and can burn like 900 "move" calories on the apple watch just by existing, doing her everyday activities, and going for a ~3-4 mile run. I went for a 3.43 mile run at a 12'29" pace and only burnt 341 move calories??? I think her biggest burn was 2,100 in a single day. And I have never been able to burn more than 6-700, even when I spent like an hour in the gym? We are both women, the only real difference is the 20-pound weight difference.
This makes zero sense to me. Her watch must be way out - as she is close to the same size is you, she'd need to run an actual marathon to burn that many calories. 341 for a 3.5 mile run sounds right. Unfortunately we don't burn as many calories as we'd like working out. It is much, much, much easier to eat an extra 350 calories than it is to work it off. I'm relatively small as well, and would need to be going absolute balls to the wall for an hour to even burn 400 - 450. Like running super fast, or hills or something.
Those watches are not accurate. They judge your calorie burn by your heart rate largely, and just having a rapid heart beat isn't what burns calories. It's indicative of energy exertion to a degree - but ain't the same thing.8 -
Can I also just say with your idea that you are abdominally obese due to to your waist measurement - your waist measurement also can largely come down to your skeletal frame. If your ribs are relatively low due to a short torso, and fairly wide, and your hip bones - particularly the illium - are high and wide, you may never have a tiny waist. There are simply some things you can't change, and your bones are one of them. Your shape may just be your shape.11
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