Less Alcohol - NOVEMBER 2020 - One Day at a Time
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I had 3 glasses of wine with dinner, enjoyed it - 2 would have done but habits die hard. Anyway it was enjoyable and I feel ready with no resentment to start another stretch of AF, I’ve managed 6 so far. Feeling fresh this morning too, so no lost days this month4
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I will use Sundays as my accountability check ins for November.
This weekend we had unseasonably warm weather. It pulled us up out of the snow that was falling here on Nov 2 & 3. From one climate change to another within hours
. But hey I will take warm over cold any day. The warmth of the day inspired much outside activity, including a huge fire in our pit last night. No bugs, although I heard and saw 4 deer that came out of my woods like they owned the place. And circled around the yard while we sat enjoying the crackling logs. Accountability first week- 4 drinks
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My goal today and every day is to do something that makes me happy. In 5 minutes I will be out the door to do a 7.5 mile trail run with DH. It's a crispy 52 degrees and I love it.
Will report stats on Monday. It wasn't a perfect week but I will focus on making today perfect (because I know I can).7 -
2 glasses of wine as we reflected on the day overlooking the water, memorial service at the church he built here in the fishing community and all the people in & out dropping off ... yep more desserts and food. Mom, my sister and DH (all my kids returned home) ... it was a nice evening. Now I'll still be at the camp helping mom through Wednesday and then in Arkansas for the visitation & graveside on Friday & Saturday. So this will not be what I call a normal week. But I'm working on accountability.
Nov accountability: 3/8 days AF
Log:
11/1 Sun - AF
11/2 Mon - AF
11/3 Tues - AF
11/4 Wed - 1 wine
11/5 Thurs - 2 wine
11/6 Fri - 2 short wine
11/7 Sat - 3 wine I didn't pour; I'm saying 3 because I think it was 2 but DH and my sister topped it off when they were pouring their own even though my glass didn't need any
11/8 Sun - 2 wine
I'm not caught up with my alcohol tracking. Need to catch up on my food & exercise journal tracking. I'm promising myself to spend an 2 hours tomorrow focused on me starting with a nice long walk and then setting up my November bullet journal.5 -
globalhiker wrote: »My goal today and every day is to do something that makes me happy.
Thank you for that!
I am taking it to heart.
As well as trying to get more beans and legumes into my diet : - )4 -
I am Dawn and live in South East British Columbia. I am 60.
My goal remains the same as it has been for quite some time, 16-20 AF days per month.
I check in diary style. It works for me.
Sunday November 01 - AF - I have been working like crazy in the yard and really wanted to have a couple drinks this evening, but just didn't want to start the month out that way. I have moved my Monday jobs to later in the week so that I can get as much as possible done in putting my gardens to bed before the rain and colder weather comes on Wednesday.
Monday November 02 - AF - Finally finished digging up the rest of the potato garden, pulling every weed and it is now covered until Spring. Hard physical labour, but the good kind. I definitely felt like having a drink, but I have to work very early tomorrow so didn't.
Tuesday November 03 - Drinks. Broke my rule and drank from long day work stress instead of saving my drinks days for happy days. I have been pretty good about this, just kind of failed on it today. I did feel better immediately though, left the stupid workday behind!
Wednesday November 04 - AF - A really good day working for my favourite company, and then home in time to get more work done in my yard while we are in a warm spell. Would have been a nice day for a drink, but of course I "used up" a drinking day for stress relief already.
Thursday November 05 - AF - Had to get my 2AF in a row.
Friday November 06 - Drinks with a friend. Almost threw up. We had some new sort of Bailey's called "Red Velvet Cupcake". I guess that it went down way too easy. It was delicious, but too easy to drink too much of. I poured mine very small, but lost track. I know once I feel like puking that I have had more than 3 ounces because my body rejects more than 3 ounces.
Saturday November 07 - AF - got it out of my system I guess.
Sunday November 08 - AF - I was invited by my friend who I hiked with today for Hot Toddy's after our chilly walk. I respectfully declined in favour of my 2nd AF day in a row.
Rolling total. 6AF day our of 8 days6 -
What an amazing weekend. I accomplished tasks I have been either putting off or dreaming about for months. With no gardens to tend in my yard since they are all cut back, I moved my firewood pile. Not once, but twice yesterday. I took all the firewood off the three sinking pallets, then moved the pallets to a drier spot. Went through each piece of firewood and seperated it to either be burned in my fireplace(inside) or be burned in my firepit(outside). How gratifying to stand back and admire two well stacked wood piles.
Next.....leaves to rake.
Having purpose, a plan or agenda is so rewarding.
~NOvember to Remember~
Week one was very good to me.8 -
Week 1 stats: 9 drinks (goal max was 4); AF 4 days
A bit overboard, like more than double. Disappointed. But today starts Week 2, and I will try for better so I can still make my monthly goal. I need to do this for me.
And yes having a purpose and a plan is rewarding. And we need to make today a very good day.....5 -
What an amazing weekend. I accomplished tasks I have been either putting off or dreaming about for months. With no gardens to tend in my yard since they are all cut back, I moved my firewood pile. Not once, but twice yesterday. I took all the firewood off the three sinking pallets, then moved the pallets to a drier spot. Went through each piece of firewood and seperated it to either be burned in my fireplace(inside) or be burned in my firepit(outside). How gratifying to stand back and admire two well stacked wood piles.
Next.....leaves to rake.
Having purpose, a plan or agenda is so rewarding.
~NOvember to Remember~
Week one was very good to me.
You go girl!!
Yes, So fantastic to get stuff done. The last of the potatoes that I dug out of the garden last weekend were outside in a bucket and it went down to Minus 11 (Celsius, like 12F). Crossing my fingers on that one.
I got more stuff done in the yard this weekend, and have quite a bit more to do. I have more mulch and compost to put in lots of areas, kind of like a blanket for my plants, and when the snow comes and then melts in the spring the nutrients will leech into the soil : - )
I haven't lived with wood as a source in many years. I always loved the whole process of stacking it, moving it around, bringing loads inside and stuff. I really love the smells of wood burning. So many people have like Natural Gas Fireplaces now, so that I don't get to smell it very often.
I just checked the weather and it is going to be much warmer for 2 weeks, so I will do a little bit in the yard each day. So satisfying and lovely to do physical stuff outdoors, and care for my patch : - )7 -
Long gripe:
Remember when husband was going to stop smoking? Well that never happened. I mean he tried, maybe for a second it seemed, and failed. Since then he's made no more attempts to stop trying. I think I'm maddest that he told me he was going to stop and he hasn't even attempted again to stop. When I met him, he was a smoker. I know it's an addiction and I cannot imagine how hard it is for him to quit but he put that seed of hope in my head that he'd quit. I'm frustrated. It's horrible for him. It's time consuming, as it seems like he's always dipping outside to smoke. It's like he's bound to the bad habit and outright mean and nasty when he "needs" another cigarette. I'm irritated, can't you tell?! He drinks and he smokes and it's all one big, humongous waste of time and money.
Husband bought a Garmin running watch and new shoes about 4-5 months ago and I support spending money for betterment. He's planning to run the Marathon with me. At first I was stoked. Running a Marathon on the 30th anniversary of the Marathon with my husband on Valentine's Day, plus I know how rewarding it is to run just for the feeling of accomplishment and pride and seeing all of those long training hours pay off. I felt excitement to share those emotions with him. I still feel it but now I'm not even so sure he'll be able to pull it off The longest he's run in years is 3 miles. Yesterday he ran 3 miles on a dreadmill and he was proud of it, so I said "nice job" and I'll further encourage him.
Bottom line is that I'm just frustrated. I want him to put the bottles away, at least until mid February, and step away from the smokes.
In the meantime I'm over two weeks no alcohol and taking one day at a time to the best of my ability. Thank you for letting me rant 😤.7 -
I am Dawn and live in South East British Columbia. I am 60.
My goal remains the same as it has been for quite some time, 16-20 AF days per month.
I check in diary style. It works for me.
Sunday November 01 - AF - I have been working like crazy in the yard and really wanted to have a couple drinks this evening, but just didn't want to start the month out that way. I have moved my Monday jobs to later in the week so that I can get as much as possible done in putting my gardens to bed before the rain and colder weather comes on Wednesday.
Monday November 02 - AF - Finally finished digging up the rest of the potato garden, pulling every weed and it is now covered until Spring. Hard physical labour, but the good kind. I definitely felt like having a drink, but I have to work very early tomorrow so didn't.
Tuesday November 03 - Drinks. Broke my rule and drank from long day work stress instead of saving my drinks days for happy days. I have been pretty good about this, just kind of failed on it today. I did feel better immediately though, left the stupid workday behind!
Wednesday November 04 - AF - A really good day working for my favourite company, and then home in time to get more work done in my yard while we are in a warm spell. Would have been a nice day for a drink, but of course I "used up" a drinking day for stress relief already.
Thursday November 05 - AF - Had to get my 2AF in a row.
Friday November 06 - Drinks with a friend. Almost threw up. We had some new sort of Bailey's called "Red Velvet Cupcake". I guess that it went down way too easy. It was delicious, but too easy to drink too much of. I poured mine very small, but lost track. I know once I feel like puking that I have had more than 3 ounces because my body rejects more than 3 ounces.
Saturday November 07 - AF - got it out of my system I guess.
Sunday November 08 - AF - I was invited by my friend who I hiked with today for Hot Toddy's after our chilly walk. I respectfully declined in favour of my 2nd AF day in a row.
Monday November 09 - AF - Got lots done today out in the chilly weather. Would have had a Brandy, but settled for a Cocoa with Banana extract and Stevia. It was lovely. Early long work day tomorrow, so AF tonight.
Rolling total. 7AF day out of 9 days4 -
2 glasses of wine ... handed the 3rd poured for me to DH.
Leaving the camp tomorrow!4 -
globalhiker wrote: »Week 1 stats: 9 drinks (goal max was 4); AF 4 days
A bit overboard, like more than double. Disappointed. But today starts Week 2, and I will try for better so I can still make my monthly goal. I need to do this for me.
And yes having a purpose and a plan is rewarding. And we need to make today a very good day.....
YES NEW WEEK TO START FRESH. you can do this.3 -
@LoveyChar giant hug for you. It can be so disappointing to have a partner that just does not get it. I hope today is a better day for you.5
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Thanks @dawnbgethealthy I can see you understand the burning rewards of wood. I do not get the same wow factor sitting in front of propane flames. In August when we went for that long weekend away. The couples home we visited had a huge deck with a propane fire. All they kept saying was how easy it was, all I kept thinking was how boring it was.
My firepit is enormous outside. I built it myself.4 -
Safe travels home @globalhiker .
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So in three weeks it will be December1st and we will be in our new home with this thread. I am putting us over into the community forum listed as Motivation and Support.
I believe it is a better place to reach out to those who share in our quest to drink less. The challenge category may have served it's purpose in the beginning when this topic was originally started. I dont think they ever intended on it to keep going for very long because I can not trace back far enough to see who created this which means they bailed on thier own challenge.
There will be a link for everyone to follow to December. So get ready to pack up and settle into our new digs.
Any suggestions are welcome if you would like to see a new intro page.
THANKS, you are all so important to my everyday life.7 -
I asked DH what day this week he's choosing to make it AF and he said today. I then said ok, I will do it with you. I know I have to let him pick if and when, as much as I want to speed things up and keep him AF Mon-Fri, I need to stand back and let him do it at his pace.
@LoveyChar, I used to smoke when I was younger and quit by cutting back one cigarette a day. My nerves were on fire that first tough week but gradually I felt better. Your husband can do this his way when he is ready. Especially now there are many more products and programs available to make the transition easier.
I wish you the best in supporting him.
Helping others change their behaviors is really excrutiatingly tough, I am going through that now with son that won't exercise and keeps eating bad foods and growing more obese each week. The more I bring it up (he perceives it as criticism), the worse he gets. Tough for me since I have this inner drive to fix everyone (momma syndrome my DH calls it). Until then, I keep working on my patience and working on myself.7 -
Oh crap...sorry @globalhiker....I was writing the safe travels home to @Lilylady3k.
Heck SAFE TRAVELS to EVERYONE. There that clears that up. LOL5 -
@dawnbgethealthy first time I heard of cocoa with banana extract but that sounds YUMMY.
@MissMay I agree Motivation and Support sounds like the right place.
Today the goal is to make it the best day I can. It starts with a 4.5 mile hill run, now.....3 -
I might challenge myself but really and truly I come here for accountability inspiration and support ... improvement is my goal not perfection.
@MissMay I agree Motivation and Support sounds like the right place and moving in December gets us visible before the new year resolution crowd looking for challenge.6 -
@globalhiker Thank you! Like you are seeing your son, I'm seeing my husband get bigger and bigger too (he'd fall in the overweight category but not obese, yet) and he does take much of what I say as criticism. He turned 40 last week and we have a two-year-old and I'd like him to be around for at least another 40 more years, I stress the at least part.
I will take your advice and be patient and I am always working on myself, always always always. Not perfect, but always a work in progress until the day I die.
I hope your son comes around soon. I think it's so much harder to deal with when it's your child. You have an uplifting attitude, hopefully he'll take wind.3 -
Here are my proposed changes to transition to the M&S forum. Most of the changes are in the "Using Our Thread" section to take out the challenge language. I also cleaned up a few grammar problems I must have missed when I put that together a million years ago..
~THIS IS A MONTHLY CONTINUING THREAD THAT HAS BEEN ACTIVE SINCE AS FAR BACK AS 2017. WELCOME ~
Do you want to drink LESS?
Do it because it's a lovely thing to do for yourself!
I bet that thinking a day off is a sort of punishment and hasn't been working.
Be kind to the person you will wake up as.
Join us in drinking LESS (whatever that means for you) one day at a time, as we continue to support and learn from each other.
▪MFP LESS ALCOHOL ONE DAY AT A TIME RESOURCE & GENERAL INFORMATION LIST▪
USING OUR THREAD:
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•This is a thread to support those who want to change their relationship with alcohol. You decide what “change” means to you.
•Post as often or as little as you want or need.
•AF is an acronym for Alcohol Free. For others commonly used on this site see - https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1069278/acronyms-and-terms-for-new-mfp-members-v-6/p1
•To follow this thread easily, bookmark it by clicking on the star at the top right of this thread.
•Remember that we are here for you and care about you. Check in with us when you have time and let us know what you need!
TIPS & OBSERVATIONS FROM OUR MEMBERS:
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•Getting Started or Starting Over - The Early Days
•Some people find it easier to set small attainable goals at the beginning to help boost confidence.
•If you have been drinking daily the first days will be some of the hardest and drinking again will feel like a cure but it delays the relief that only time can provide.
•There will always be a reason to delay the start/restart of your journey.
•For those ready to commit to being alcohol-free permanently, the videos on YouTube by Craig Beck will help. He also has a program you can join.
•You may experience mood swings and anxiety during your first two weeks. It is suggested you try and focus on the benefits of your goal.
•Cravings are said to last only 6 minutes, so find something to distract you like arming yourself with alternatives: tea, mock-tails, activities, etc.
•You may find that filling the time you drink with other activities like exercise or hobbies can be a helpful distraction.
•If you find them tempting try and avoid events/outings that will have drinking for a time.
•Don't let pride or shame keep you from asking for the help you need.
•Sometimes talking it out or posting your thoughts/feelings/struggles may help you work things out for yourself.
•It is okay that you don't always have all the answers.
•Some days will be easier than others.
•You may have initial/increased sugar cravings.
•You should never take a day that you have lived up to your goals for granted.
•Celebrate the smaller victories too. Less alcohol is still less alcohol even if your goal was zero at that moment.
•Once you begin sticking to your goals for one day to many days you should believe you are capable of the same and more because you are.
•Failure is not giving in and drinking. Failure is to stop trying to carry out your goals.
•Annie Grace (This Naked Mind author) has a free program on her website (https://www.alcoholexperiment.com/) called the 30-day experiment which can be joined anonymously.
Life with Less Alcohol:
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•It can be helpful to educate yourself with books and web research (Some suggested books and links listed below).
•There is no benefit to comparing yourself to others because this is a personal journey.
•You may often feel conflicted. You will know that there are many real benefits to sticking to your goal while at the same time think that alcohol is an important part of stress relief, relaxation, celebration, etc.
•You may feel punished by not drinking or drinking less but that feeling usually fades with time.
•Sometimes drinking less or quitting will strain friendships that centered around alcohol.
•Having a list of reasons to stick to your goals handy for yourself can be helpful. Some lists have included remembering how bad it feels to have a hangover, excess/unwanted calories, having a racing heart during the night, sleeplessness, anxiety, and depression.
•It is a good idea to have a plan for how you might deal with various tempting scenarios before engaging in a social situation.
•Self-Reflection is an important part of the journey. Once we figure out why we drink we can hopefully use that information to form new habits and make better and more mindful decisions.
•Sometimes doing something nice for yourself like a little reward for a success makes the journey easier.
•You will see many helpful suggestions and ideas that work for some people. However, finding what tactics work for you may involve some trial and error.
•It is not uncommon for certain activities that were once combined with alcohol to trigger temptation. Many have said that outdoor activities in warmer weather made alcohol very tempting.
•Many that have spent time with no alcohol after drinking again realized that it does not enhance experiences like they once believed it did. Some have said they no longer like the taste.
•Don't forget how sticking to your goal has made your life better and remember it to motivate you again if you fall off your path.
•If you begin drinking daily again whether planned like a vacation or unplanned you may once again face a struggle to get it under control.
•For some people it is easier to not drink than it is to moderate drinking. Others have found moderating impossible.
Reported Benefits of Less or No Drinking: (Results may be incremental, and/or they may vary)
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•Improved sleep after 2,4,7,10,& 60 days
•Improved skin/complexion after 10 days
•Improved ease in weight loss. Not only from the savings of alcohol calories but some report making poor food choices after drinking.
•Increased energy after as few as 2 days
•Increase in other fun activities. Some have found that daily drinking became their main recreational activity, and their world was decreased in size.
•Increased productivity
•Reduction of high blood pressure
•Lower resting heart rate
•Less Acid Re-flux
•Significant financial savings
•More creativity
•More productivity
•Better relationships with family
When Alcohol Is Used for Avoidance:
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•We drink to ease the stress of the working day, to avoid it.
•We drink to avoid anxiety in social situations.
•We drink to avoid making decisions about not drinking.
•The Takeaway on Avoidance, our problems don't go away if we avoid them. We need to learn to face them.
•Having a clear head makes our problems seem much smaller.
•Having a clear head makes problems easier to solve.
How to Be Kind to "Tomorrow You":
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•Instead of lumbering with guilt, headaches, and poor nutrition hangovers in the morning, Think of think how nice it would be not to feel that way tomorrow.
•Worry about "me" and don't let "tomorrow Me" feel awful.
•Instead of thinking alcohol is something nice to have *now*, think of *NOT drinking* as something nice we can do for the person we are when we awaken in the morning.
•Do you bank calories for a festive occasion? (Handy tactic) We can bank a good mood for when we wake up.
•We need to have sympathy for "Tomorrow You" and be kind to her/him.
•Don't look at a day without alcohol as a punishment for being bad or having no willpower.
•Not drinking is a lovely, sympathetic gesture towards the person we are now, and whom we will wake up as.
•You’d be kind to a stranger. Be kind to "Tomorrow You".
LINKS:
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•Mydrinkaware:
https://www.mydrinkaware.co.uk
•A Sharing Site for Women:
http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/about/
•General Information/Blog Sites:
https://thesoberschool.com/
http://www.hipsobriety.com/
https://joinclubsoda.co.uk/
https://thisnakedmind.com/blog/
https://alcoholmastery.com/blog/
•Sobriety Blog:
http://mummywasasecretdrinker.blogspot.com/
•The Thirty Day Experiment:
https://www.alcoholexperiment.com/
•Ten Things That Helped Me Quit Booze:
https://unpickledblog.com/2017/01/04/replacement-behaviours-ten-things-that-helped-me-kick-booze/?wref=tp
•The Neuroscience Behind How We Make Decisions:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201505/the-neuroscience-making-decision
•Summary of Book on Addiction:
https://drgabormate.com/book/in-the-realm-of-hungry-ghosts/
•Article on the Difference Between Being an Alcoholic and Really Liking to Drink:
https://www.self.com/story/alcoholic-or-just-really-like-to-drink
•To the Mom questioning her drinking habits:
http://www.scarymommy.com/questioning-drinking-habits/
•Guided Meditations:
http://marc.ucla.edu/mindful-meditations
ALTERNATIVE DRINKS:
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•Overnight Cold Brew Iced Tea:
https://www.splendidtable.org/story/you-can-cold-brew-iced-tea-while-you-sleep
•Mocktail Recipes:
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/1822/drinks/mocktails/
https://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails-spirits/mocktails
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/drinks/how-to/g785/best-mocktail-recipes/
APPS:
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•Daybreak iOS link. A Deakin University study of hundreds of health apps found that Daybreak is one of only four that have proven effective and provide quality assistance.
•Dry Days by AlcoChange iOS is for those who want to cut down or cut out the booze throughout the year, while seeing the impact it has on your health and wallet.
•nomo - Sobriety Clocks iOS - In addition to an alcohol clock and monetary savings this app lets you check in and do a sobriety exercise if you're tempted, and connect with accountability partners.
•Sobriety Counter - Stop Drinking (Sobriety Counter - EasyQuit pro version) Android- Provides health stats, money saved, games to distract you, motivational tips, and several other features
BOOKS:
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•The Naked Mind by Annie Grace
•Alcohol Lied to Me by Craig Beck
•Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey
•The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherine Gray
•The Liars Club, Cherry, and Lit by Mary Karr (3 different publications)
•Kick the Drink...Easily by Jason Vale
•Drinking: A Love Story by Caroline Knapp
•Being Sober: A Step-by-Step Guide to Getting To, Getting Through, and Living in Recovery by Harry Haroutunian
•The Easy, Illustrated Way to Quit Drinking by Alan Carr
•Alcohol Explained by William Porter
Credit and thanks to the MFP Less Alcohol One Day at a Time participants
For their willingness to share their insights and resourcefulness in finding this information
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Well hello @NovusDies. This is YOUR month isn't it? The month that changed your life? Thank you for the tweaks to the intro page information.
I am also going to replace the word "members" with the word "users". Members sounds way to formal, secluded and private.
Hope your doing well.
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Well hello @NovusDies. This is YOUR month isn't it? The month that changed your life? Thank you for the tweaks to the intro page information.
I am also going to replace the word "members" with the word "users". Members sounds way to formal, secluded and private.
Hope your doing well.
I am. Just plugging along trying to figure out what is next.
I was looking over it trying to figure out a way to shorten it. The problem is the tips came from user experiences so you really can't know which may be meaningful to the next person to come along. The reason all those books and web resources are there is because people were routinely asking for them.
But that is a LOT.4 -
You did a fine job putting it together way back when and we have always and still do get thanks from new users for the wealth of information.
It is time for us to stop promoting ourselves as a "challenge ". I find challenges are short term events.
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You did a fine job putting it together way back when and we have always and still do get thanks from new users for the wealth of information.
It is time for us to stop promoting ourselves as a "challenge ". I find challenges are short term events.
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I agree. It was initially misleading. Even framed as a personal challenge it probably confused some people.
I really do not see any way of cutting it. There are probably some ways to make it slightly more concise but I don't think it would be enough of a reduction to justify the effort. The whole idea is and always was to help people and even those that have never and will never feel comfortable posting in the thread. I'd like to think, and I am sure you do too, that a few lurkers have used some of those tips to improve their lives.
Anyway since you asked and I have a bit of history with it I thought I would take a look at it. I have no ego involved with it so if you do not like my changes (any or all) feel free to reject them.
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@NovusDies @MissMay
I think a short intro post and then a 2nd separate post with the longer resources info would be nice way to handle it.
Need something that doesn't bog folks down when they first are introduced to the thread.
DH saw that we were having steak for dinner and started saying red wine ... and I stopped him ... said I do not want wine this evening so please do not buy any.
This evening I talked DH into an evening 3 mile walk after our long drive this morning and his sitting at the desk presenting on calls all afternoon.
After the walk he fixed a bourbon & sprite for himself as we prepared dinner. I remained AF!
Nov accountability: 4/10 days AF
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