Is it normal to be so tired from walking?

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  • netitheyeti
    netitheyeti Posts: 539 Member
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    If you're not doing so already I would suggest a Vitamin D supplement is worth a try.

    Lack of it might be contributing to the general 'meh' along with everything else of course.
    Advice in the UK is now that everyone takes it in the winter, because even if you do manage to get into the daylight it isn't strong enough to generate vit D.
    I've taken it consistently since the autumn for the first time this year, and feel better than I usually do.
    I'm already taking supplements including vit D! :) but yeah the "No sunlight" thing has been miserable
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,464 Member
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    You describe some effects that are characteristic of depression. Consider talking to your doctor and starting on a mild antidepressant.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,178 Member
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    If you're not doing so already I would suggest a Vitamin D supplement is worth a try.

    Lack of it might be contributing to the general 'meh' along with everything else of course.
    Advice in the UK is now that everyone takes it in the winter, because even if you do manage to get into the daylight it isn't strong enough to generate vit D.
    I've taken it consistently since the autumn for the first time this year, and feel better than I usually do.
    I'm already taking supplements including vit D! :) but yeah the "No sunlight" thing has been miserable

    Do you have one of the "SAD (seasonal affective disorder) lights"? They're not a panacea, but do help some people. Can be online ordered, normally (haven't checked lately for availability).
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
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    They are easily available in the US -- I just got one. Internationally may vary, of course.
  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,467 Member
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    Lunch outside, for sure!
  • globalc00
    globalc00 Posts: 103 Member
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    I used to do the exact same routine as you for 3 years ago for a couple of years. I used to walk 1+ hour to work and then back home, then do strength training. I was averaging 20K a day and I have a desk job where I really didn't move at all once I got to work until it was time to come home. I can say it was much easier in the winter time vs summer when it was super hot and humid. I was covering my self head to toe to protect myself from UV light in the summer, which was much more of a hassle then wearing a jacket.

    I also found the the right shoe made all the difference in the world. I started with work shoes which were definitely not made for walking for 1+ hour at a time. Then when I switch to hiking shoes since it rains a lot, it was significantly better. But when I made the switch to actual walking shoes, it was again a night and day difference.

    When I first started doing it, and starting to diet, I did intuitive eating and not really calorie counting. I did lose weight and didn't feel tired. I felt like I could just walk forever and not feel anything after sitting down for 10 minutes.
    However, I eventually stopped walking to work because I started to feel pain in my knees. Not sure if it was just from overuse or getting old or combination of both. I also started counting calories and at some point I started to feel much more fatigued when I was trying to be in a deficit. I was also going to sleep at 9:00 pm and on a Friday, i would often goto sleep at 8:30.

    Unlike your situation, when covid hit, we had to start working from home, so to replace the walking to and from work, I walked on a treadmill, which I think may be a little more difficult since there are no breaks at stop lights. I initially decided to get all my exercise in at one time. So i was doing strength training then 2 hours on the treadmill instead of having it broken up as before. This meant I had to get up earlier to do this. I did this for 5 month and found my self much more exhausted even the amount of exercise was the same as before, just in different times of the day. I recently went back to splitting up the work out so I could sleep in a little more and feel significantly less fatigued.

    So my experience is (TLDR)
    The right shoes definitely helps walking long distance.
    Eating the right amount of calories also helps.
    Not forcing your self to wake up earlier than what your body wants helps.
    Getting some rest before you go from 1 workout to the next helps.
  • netitheyeti
    netitheyeti Posts: 539 Member
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    Lunch outside, for sure!

    unfortunately not allowed to atm, masks must be worn at all times outside, no eating or drinking allowed (400€ fine for it)
  • netitheyeti
    netitheyeti Posts: 539 Member
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    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    If you're not doing so already I would suggest a Vitamin D supplement is worth a try.

    Lack of it might be contributing to the general 'meh' along with everything else of course.
    Advice in the UK is now that everyone takes it in the winter, because even if you do manage to get into the daylight it isn't strong enough to generate vit D.
    I've taken it consistently since the autumn for the first time this year, and feel better than I usually do.
    I'm already taking supplements including vit D! :) but yeah the "No sunlight" thing has been miserable

    Do you have one of the "SAD (seasonal affective disorder) lights"? They're not a panacea, but do help some people. Can be online ordered, normally (haven't checked lately for availability).

    I'll look into that! not sure how easily available it is here (I live in a small EU country, getting stuff can be a pain sometimes), might be able to order online tho, provided it's not too expensive
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
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    Lunch outside, for sure!

    unfortunately not allowed to atm, masks must be worn at all times outside, no eating or drinking allowed (400€ fine for it)

    The point is not where you actually eat (do you have somewhere completely private indoors? otherwise outdoors without the mask briefly actually seems safer, but whatever), but getting outside in the sun before it goes down. I used to go walk around a bit if I needed light (I realize more walking may not be exactly what you want). Maybe even ask one of the other new people if they want to come with you.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,401 Member
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    If you're deficient in vitamin D then it might be worth consulting a calculator. There you type in your current level and the level you aim at. The calculator then tells you how much Vitamin D you need to take to raise your level to that number in for example 3 months. It usually takes quite a lot of vitamin D to raise levels substantially.

    Other than that: agree to all that other people have said here.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,902 Member
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    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    If you're not doing so already I would suggest a Vitamin D supplement is worth a try.

    Lack of it might be contributing to the general 'meh' along with everything else of course.
    Advice in the UK is now that everyone takes it in the winter, because even if you do manage to get into the daylight it isn't strong enough to generate vit D.
    I've taken it consistently since the autumn for the first time this year, and feel better than I usually do.
    I'm already taking supplements including vit D! :) but yeah the "No sunlight" thing has been miserable

    Do you have one of the "SAD (seasonal affective disorder) lights"? They're not a panacea, but do help some people. Can be online ordered, normally (haven't checked lately for availability).

    I got my seasonal affective disorder light from my doctor (I'm with the VA) and I love it!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,902 Member
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    charmmeth wrote: »
    I seriously think it's partially my shoes but I still have no way to buy new (water/snowproof) ones, all shoe shops have been closed since october

    Could you buy shoes online? I realise it's a risk, but you could choose somewhere that lets you send them back if they don't fit.

    I feel like maybe some of this is mental... I've been thinking today and 2 things stand out to me:
    1) I haven't seen sunlight in over a month, I go to work and come home in darkness, I work in a basement with no windows
    2) I am stuck in a town with 0 friends and no way to get to my family (haven't seen anyone outside work, where I'm one of the "new"-ish people, in over a month)

    That sounds debilitating. I really sympathise: I was in lockdown on my own for three months (but in the spring, so in the light) and saw very few people. i found it exhausting and depressing. Can you use zoom to talk to your family and friends at least?

    my family don't know how to use tech/webcams so we stick to phonecalls, no cams (this is people in their 60s to late 80s)

    my normal places to buy shoes from don't do online, and I have very unusual feet so it's a challenge even when shopping in person :( I tend to be JUST able to fit into the smallest adult womens size, but then there's my high arches, wide feet and super long toes

    Will Zappos ship to you? They are great with returns for me in the US anyway. I normally buy 3-4 different shoes and only keep one pair.

    Amazon bought Zappos so I check both places now. I do research on Zappos and then see if Amazon has the better price.
  • Mithridites
    Mithridites Posts: 595 Member
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    @kshama2001 Zappos doesn't ship outside of the USA. The OP is in a small Northern European country.

    OP, I feel for you. I would certainly be tired with the routine you describe. I second (or third) the advice to get new walking shoes shipped to you, or even some old ones you left behind at your family's house. I also like my happy light, although it's tricky to find a good one, even if Amazon shops things to your country. If there is any program offered though your employer or the government that would help you deal with the low mood caused by the lockdown, give it a try. Something is better than nothing. I also swear by supplementing Omega-3 and magnesium for extra pep in my step, but that's something you should have a doctor's advice with, and I'm not one. Hang in there! Things will get better in 2021.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,902 Member
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    just to clarify - yes, I am eating enough so I'm not losing more weight - if I was massively undereating I'd notice that after a few weeks.. now some days I eat more and some days I eat less (depends on how hungry) but looking at the past week for example I'm averaging about 2000-2100kcal, my sedentary maintenance would be just around 1500

    When I walk I carry a light backpack with my wallet, disinfectant, some tissues, my phone charger and some spare masks (obligatory to wear one at all times, even on the streets, so I go through a few single use ones per day).. I'll sometimes grab groceries on the way back, but I'm only carrying those for the last 1/3 of the walk

    I tend to do either gentler stuff (stretching) or workouts with weights in the evenings because I don't want to lose the strength I've been working for months to get :/ also, walking doesn't quite feel as satisfying sometimes?

    I seriously think it's partially my shoes but I still have no way to buy new (water/snowproof) ones, all shoe shops have been closed since october

    Could you order some shoes online, if you think that's part of the problem? Lots of places allow free returns, so you could try them on and everything before committing.

    I can also highly recommend reusable, washable cloth masks: less waste for the environment but also, you don't need to carry so many. I bought a pack of 5 in Amazon, usually have 2 with me at all times and just wash them in rotation.

    I think you're right about the mental part too though. It can be hard in winter when it's dark all the time, even worse during this period of social isolation. If your mood is a bit low that may well be making you feel more tired.

    I bought washable ones! After 30ish min of walking in high humidity I feel like I'm getting suffocated by wet cloth getting sucked into my mouth/nose

    I had a short walk in very cold last night and started to experience the wet mask and thought of you.

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  • RelCanonical
    RelCanonical Posts: 3,882 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    just to clarify - yes, I am eating enough so I'm not losing more weight - if I was massively undereating I'd notice that after a few weeks.. now some days I eat more and some days I eat less (depends on how hungry) but looking at the past week for example I'm averaging about 2000-2100kcal, my sedentary maintenance would be just around 1500

    When I walk I carry a light backpack with my wallet, disinfectant, some tissues, my phone charger and some spare masks (obligatory to wear one at all times, even on the streets, so I go through a few single use ones per day).. I'll sometimes grab groceries on the way back, but I'm only carrying those for the last 1/3 of the walk

    I tend to do either gentler stuff (stretching) or workouts with weights in the evenings because I don't want to lose the strength I've been working for months to get :/ also, walking doesn't quite feel as satisfying sometimes?

    I seriously think it's partially my shoes but I still have no way to buy new (water/snowproof) ones, all shoe shops have been closed since october

    Could you order some shoes online, if you think that's part of the problem? Lots of places allow free returns, so you could try them on and everything before committing.

    I can also highly recommend reusable, washable cloth masks: less waste for the environment but also, you don't need to carry so many. I bought a pack of 5 in Amazon, usually have 2 with me at all times and just wash them in rotation.

    I think you're right about the mental part too though. It can be hard in winter when it's dark all the time, even worse during this period of social isolation. If your mood is a bit low that may well be making you feel more tired.

    I bought washable ones! After 30ish min of walking in high humidity I feel like I'm getting suffocated by wet cloth getting sucked into my mouth/nose

    I had a short walk in very cold last night and started to experience the wet mask and thought of you.

    Oh yeah, wet mask is a new sensation. I did like wearing it as a lightweight cover for my mouth though. Scarfs and ski masks were just too heavy and sweaty when I'm out exercising. I need something to cover my face because I get a lil asthmatic when I suck in too much cold air from breathing hard.
  • AnnPT77
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    FWIW, one of my friends gave me this thingie for that "sucking in soggy mask" problem. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising. (I put that pencil under it to give you a better idea of size/shape.) I'm not sure what it's called (mask cage maybe?) but I believe she got it on Amazon, and I know it was a multi-pack.
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  • raymax4
    raymax4 Posts: 6,070 Member
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    charmmeth wrote: »
    I seriously think it's partially my shoes but I still have no way to buy new (water/snowproof) ones, all shoe shops have been closed since october

    Could you buy shoes online? I realise it's a risk, but you could choose somewhere that lets you send them back if they don't fit.

    I feel like maybe some of this is mental... I've been thinking today and 2 things stand out to me:
    1) I haven't seen sunlight in over a month, I go to work and come home in darkness, I work in a basement with no windows
    2) I am stuck in a town with 0 friends and no way to get to my family (haven't seen anyone outside work, where I'm one of the "new"-ish people, in over a month)

    That sounds debilitating. I really sympathise: I was in lockdown on my own for three months (but in the spring, so in the light) and saw very few people. i found it exhausting and depressing. Can you use zoom to talk to your family and friends at least?

    my family don't know how to use tech/webcams so we stick to phonecalls, no cams (this is people in their 60s to late 80s)

    my normal places to buy shoes from don't do online, and I have very unusual feet so it's a challenge even when shopping in person :( I tend to be JUST able to fit into the smallest adult womens size, but then there's my high arches, wide feet and super long toes

    I have wide feet and high arches and walk a lot at work I found NBT sports rally helpful however Im hot sure you would want to walk in snow with them. they defiantly decrease heal strike though.

    You mentioned lack of sunshine and being mildly depressed perhaps you are low in vitamin D
    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-deficiency-symptoms#TOC_TITLE_HDR_3
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,902 Member
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    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    FWIW, one of my friends gave me this thingie for that "sucking in soggy mask" problem. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising. (I put that pencil under it to give you a better idea of size/shape.) I'm not sure what it's called (mask cage maybe?) but I believe she got it on Amazon, and I know it was a multi-pack.
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    Yes, "mask cage." Also "lipstick protector" lol.

    https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mask+cage&ref=nb_sb_no
  • MaltedTea
    MaltedTea Posts: 6,286 Member
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    I'm not saying that this jumps the shark but there's also the option of having several masks on your person if you're, for some reason, going to be out among the Great Unwashed for a large portion of the day.

    Personally, I would be concerned about pressure marks this would leave on my face... especially with make-up 🤷🏿‍♀️

    But whomever invented this? Chef's kiss 👌🏿 That's easy money.