Butter substitutes?
yellow1111
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Hello! I’ve been tracking for over a year and my husband is FINALLY on board to “try” it..problem is he is super picky, I’ve tried replacing his regular oatmeal with the same flavors but added protein and he tastes the difference immediately. Are there any butter substitutes that taste like butter but will allow his macros to go to other sources (protein, additional calories, fat, etc)?
The other part to my question is I’ve heard that any butter substitute isn’t good for you, is this true? If butter subs are the lesser of 2 evils, that’s great but if not and I have to use real butter for his food, I’m fine with that, I just know it’s going to take me a long time to figure out how to balance his macros & make it fit. Thank you for any help you can give!!
The other part to my question is I’ve heard that any butter substitute isn’t good for you, is this true? If butter subs are the lesser of 2 evils, that’s great but if not and I have to use real butter for his food, I’m fine with that, I just know it’s going to take me a long time to figure out how to balance his macros & make it fit. Thank you for any help you can give!!
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Butter is already contributing to the fat macro, so if someone likes butter, why not just eat that to get fat?
People use all types of things to substitute for butter (with varying degrees of success). I'm not really sure by what mechanism they could ALL be bad for you. Some people will use things like coconut oil or avocado or margarine or ghee. These are all going to provide approximately the same number of calories and fat as butter, so there's really no point in switching unless there is a specific reason why someone can't eat butter or doesn't want to eat it.
If you're looking for something that tastes like butter but doesn't have the calories and/or fat, well . . . that's kind of one of the holy grails of the food world. There are some powdered butter-flavor type things you can shake on to food, but I don't know if that is going to satisfy someone who is used to having butter in their oatmeal.
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yellow1111 wrote: »Hello! I’ve been tracking for over a year and my husband is FINALLY on board to “try” it..problem is he is super picky, I’ve tried replacing his regular oatmeal with the same flavors but added protein and he tastes the difference immediately. Are there any butter substitutes that taste like butter but will allow his macros to go to other sources (protein, additional calories, fat, etc)?
The other part to my question is I’ve heard that any butter substitute isn’t good for you, is this true? If butter subs are the lesser of 2 evils, that’s great but if not and I have to use real butter for his food, I’m fine with that, I just know it’s going to take me a long time to figure out how to balance his macros & make it fit. Thank you for any help you can give!!
Why not just focus on calories? There's nothing wrong with butter...I have butter with my toast pretty much every morning. Any butter substitute is still going to be a fat...IMO, none of them taste as good. It used to be fairly common for butter substitutes to be loaded with hydrogenated oils (trans-fats...these are incredibly bad for you). I think that is becoming less common, but still...a whole lot of various processing has to go into making a butter substitute. I don't personally get hung up on processed foods...but I also don't see the point in using a processed "fake butter" when you can just have natural butter.5 -
Butter substitute are usually vegetable oils. If you put oil in the refrigerator it'll stay liquid. In the past decades they used a process in order to make liquid vegetable oils solid which is called hydogenizing. That creates what is called trans fats. Very unhealthy, they can cause heart diseases.
Now that it came out that tans fat are unhealthy and people are avoiding them, they found other ways to make vegetable oils solid. What ways? Well the easier is mixing the oils with real butter. There are still dairy free butter substitute, but I cannot tell you how they are solidified. Healthy? I wouldn't know.
Other than that, if you are ok with saturated fat in butter, you'll be ok with saturated fat in butter substitutes.
As per oat and protein I can't say anything. I'm not obsessed with proteins so I'm fine with the natural quantity in them. Just know that in oats you'll find mainly one source of amino acids, so if you want him to have more proteins I would go with other sources instead of increasing the same type of amino acids.3 -
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Maybe just have him focus on gradually using less butter than finding an alternative? If you/he is concerned about overall health and not just calories, then I'd also suggest replacing some of the butter with healthier fats, like olive oil. Although, I think olive oil would be weird in oatmeal.1
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I guess if someone is religiously vegan butter is not a choice. But, if not, why would anyone want to reduce butter? It is lower in calories than oils and far better tasting and mouth feel.2
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I just don't use butter. I guess if I did feel like I really needed it, I would pick the foods I like it on best and just use it or use a half serving. What foods do you feel you really need it for?2
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yellow1111 wrote: »Hello! I’ve been tracking for over a year and my husband is FINALLY on board to “try” it..problem is he is super picky, I’ve tried replacing his regular oatmeal with the same flavors but added protein and he tastes the difference immediately. Are there any butter substitutes that taste like butter but will allow his macros to go to other sources (protein, additional calories, fat, etc)?
The other part to my question is I’ve heard that any butter substitute isn’t good for you, is this true? If butter subs are the lesser of 2 evils, that’s great but if not and I have to use real butter for his food, I’m fine with that, I just know it’s going to take me a long time to figure out how to balance his macros & make it fit. Thank you for any help you can give!!
Just going to ask why it’s up to you to ‘balance his macros & make it fit’? I’m assuming because you’re married to him that he’s a functioning adult? Surely it’s better to teach him some basic info and let him take control of how he fits his pickiness in to his new goals.
I’ve learned through bitter experience that being ‘put in charge’ of a partners diet tends to backfire. These days I bite my tongue, facilitate when asked specifically, but leave him to figure it out because when he fails it’s going to be my fault in his eyes, if I’m in control!10 -
Was the protein added oatmeal Quaker? I notice the taste too. They use soy protein, blech. Try making oatmeal with milk to add protein. 1%, 2% whatever calories will allow.
I have used I Can't Believe it's not Butter Spray...it's non aerosol. It's in the refrigerated section. It has a good flavor.2 -
I generally use real butter, but when I want something that will be spreadable pretty much right out of the refrigerator, I have been using Smart Balance light olive oil "buttery spread," which is made from water and a blend of vegetable oils, including palm oil to solidify it. I like the hint of olive oil in the taste, and it does taste more like butter than most margarines, and as a bonus it has fewer calories and less saturated fat than butter or regular margarine, as well as making the claim that it supports healthy cholesterol levels for those already in the normal range (it has omega-3 fatty acids, which I assume is the basis of that). I wouldn't try to cook with it, though; I use it strictly as a spread.
In general, though, if his goal is to lose weight (you don't actually say what his goals are), I would focus on the calories -- or let him focus on the calories -- and not worry overmuch about macros, especially at first. It's up to you how invested you want to be in helping him reach his goals. Does he have goals, or has he just given in to a year of your urging him to track his calories? If this is more your idea than his (or really, pretty much all your idea), it's not surprising that you are the one who feels like they have to figure out what foods he should eat.2 -
The shelves of the grocery store are full of all kinds of “butter substitutes”. What features are looking for your desired substitute to have? Taste and texture exactly like butter but no fat?🧐0
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Do they still make Molly McButter? It's probably loaded with chemicals, but I remember sprinkling that on popcorn, toast and baked potatoes - allowing me to cut back butter by 75% in most applications.0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »I generally use real butter, but when I want something that will be spreadable pretty much right out of the refrigerator, I have been using Smart Balance light olive oil "buttery spread," which is made from water and a blend of vegetable oils, including palm oil to solidify it. I like the hint of olive oil in the taste, and it does taste more like butter than most margarines, and as a bonus it has fewer calories and less saturated fat than butter or regular margarine, as well as making the claim that it supports healthy cholesterol levels for those already in the normal range (it has omega-3 fatty acids, which I assume is the basis of that). I wouldn't try to cook with it, though; I use it strictly as a spread.
In general, though, if his goal is to lose weight (you don't actually say what his goals are), I would focus on the calories -- or let him focus on the calories -- and not worry overmuch about macros, especially at first. It's up to you how invested you want to be in helping him reach his goals. Does he have goals, or has he just given in to a year of your urging him to track his calories? If this is more your idea than his (or really, pretty much all your idea), it's not surprising that you are the one who feels like they have to figure out what foods he should eat.
I just keep my (real) butter out on the counter, in a covered butter dish. I use it quickly enough that it doesn't go rancid.
Seconding your whole paragraph, too. This is an entire grown-assed man, he can learn to read a nutrition facts label and do math if he wants to.4 -
IMO, there's no substitute for buttee or bacon.
Just allow enough cals to eat the real thing.9 -
BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »yellow1111 wrote: »Hello! I’ve been tracking for over a year and my husband is FINALLY on board to “try” it..problem is he is super picky, I’ve tried replacing his regular oatmeal with the same flavors but added protein and he tastes the difference immediately. Are there any butter substitutes that taste like butter but will allow his macros to go to other sources (protein, additional calories, fat, etc)?
The other part to my question is I’ve heard that any butter substitute isn’t good for you, is this true? If butter subs are the lesser of 2 evils, that’s great but if not and I have to use real butter for his food, I’m fine with that, I just know it’s going to take me a long time to figure out how to balance his macros & make it fit. Thank you for any help you can give!!
Just going to ask why it’s up to you to ‘balance his macros & make it fit’? I’m assuming because you’re married to him that he’s a functioning adult? Surely it’s better to teach him some basic info and let him take control of how he fits his pickiness in to his new goals.
I’ve learned through bitter experience that being ‘put in charge’ of a partners diet tends to backfire. These days I bite my tongue, facilitate when asked specifically, but leave him to figure it out because when he fails it’s going to be my fault in his eyes, if I’m in control!
Agree. It is not up to you to plan his menu or balance his macros. If he really truly wants to do this, he will do this without relying on you to facilitate it.
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goal06082021 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I generally use real butter, but when I want something that will be spreadable pretty much right out of the refrigerator, I have been using Smart Balance light olive oil "buttery spread," which is made from water and a blend of vegetable oils, including palm oil to solidify it. I like the hint of olive oil in the taste, and it does taste more like butter than most margarines, and as a bonus it has fewer calories and less saturated fat than butter or regular margarine, as well as making the claim that it supports healthy cholesterol levels for those already in the normal range (it has omega-3 fatty acids, which I assume is the basis of that). I wouldn't try to cook with it, though; I use it strictly as a spread.
In general, though, if his goal is to lose weight (you don't actually say what his goals are), I would focus on the calories -- or let him focus on the calories -- and not worry overmuch about macros, especially at first. It's up to you how invested you want to be in helping him reach his goals. Does he have goals, or has he just given in to a year of your urging him to track his calories? If this is more your idea than his (or really, pretty much all your idea), it's not surprising that you are the one who feels like they have to figure out what foods he should eat.
I just keep my (real) butter out on the counter, in a covered butter dish. I use it quickly enough that it doesn't go rancid.
Seconding your whole paragraph, too. This is an entire grown-assed man, he can learn to read a nutrition facts label and do math if he wants to.
Unless I've just baked a loaf of bread, I don't use butter as spread often enough to use it up before even salted butter is no longer at its best (and if I'm using it for cooking, I don't generally want it as soft as it gets on the counter -- too hard to measure, for one thing, so that doesn't help in using it up).
But if I have a home-baked loaf I know I'm going to want to use butter with until it's gone, or it's summer and I'm cooking corn regularly, I leave the butter out on the counter, too.1 -
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I dunno, I like Spam, but as its own thing, not as a substitute for bacon. (I do see a distinction between a substitute and an alternative, but the post you were responding to said substitute.)1 -
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I never liked the phrases healthy eating or everything with moderation. They actually have little meaning. Ask 10 different doctors and 10 different nutritionists what is healthy and you'll get different answers from what is healthy eating. Many will agree on the bases, but I'm sure they all have some conflicting foods.
Like moderation. Ask people what moderation is and you'll get different quantities according to their taste bud favorites lol.3 -
I never liked the phrases healthy eating or everything with moderation. They actually have little meaning. Ask 10 different doctors and 10 different nutritionists what is healthy and you'll get different answers from what is healthy eating. Many will agree on the bases, but I'm sure they all have some conflicting foods.
Like moderation. Ask people what moderation is and you'll get different quantities according to their taste bud favorites lol.
LOL I like to say that my moderation isn't anywhere near the rest of the people on here's moderation. (Just look at my cookie inventory )4 -
I still use real butter most of the time, however my daughter cant have dairy and she likes the taste of " I can't believe it's not butter " plant based2
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I never liked the phrases healthy eating or everything with moderation. They actually have little meaning. Ask 10 different doctors and 10 different nutritionists what is healthy and you'll get different answers from what is healthy eating. Many will agree on the bases, but I'm sure they all have some conflicting foods.
Like moderation. Ask people what moderation is and you'll get different quantities according to their taste bud favorites lol.
LOL I like to say that my moderation isn't anywhere near the rest of the people on here's moderation. (Just look at my cookie inventory )
I can relate to your thinking but about chocolate... Unfortunately 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂1 -
I've had to reduce my butter intake just because I don't really have enough room in my calories for it. If I am having a sandwich or something where I need some spread for texture where taste doesn't matter too much, I use Flora Light.
But where I really want to use butter - on toast or in baking - none of the substitutes hit the mark. So baked goods and toast have to become a rare treat now. But that's a personal choice - I could have butter, but it would mean not getting some chocolate in the evening, or having to limit my dinner a bit etc. So it's a choice I've made. Your choice might be different.1 -
Thank you all
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Thank you all for your answers! Some were pretty rude to be honest, but for those of you who responded with kindness and helpful content I appreciate it very much and they were very helpful to me!! He used to be very active and fit but due to injury he can’t.
I would like to address the rude comments, I’ve removed many of them....Not that it’s anybody’s business, but my husband is an injured vet and has extremely limited mobility, due to his injuries. Yes, I cook his meals for him, I take him to physical therapy, I care for him after his many back surgeries and I will continue to do so...as the wife of someone who gave his body for our freedoms, it’s the very least I can do. And someone commented he is a “grown *kitten* man who should be taking care of himself” my husband is a grown *kitten* man who gave up his physical freedoms for his country. Please think before you reply with rude comments when you don’t know the backstory, or..maybe don’t reply at all.7 -
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Also, I’m sorry, I don’t know how to directly respond to peoples questions. He’s trying to be healthier and lose weight.0
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