Trinity Transformation

No idea. I would not go with someone else’s plan, especially if all the reviews are good. I’m suspicious by nature. Lol

Put in your numbers here on MFP and log daily. So many successful people here. And it is free.

Also, read the stickies at the top of the forums.

I had a look online, from what I can see it seems legit, however, from the quick look I had they do seem a bit cagey about the program. And if they aren't upfront up about the cost before the phone call, I imagine it could be quite expensive???

On their facebook page reviews one person comments on the phone call, the review is back from January 2020:


"I find it extremely disturbing that all of the information when you sign up for an introductory phonecall makes it very clear that it is a no pressure conversation. The confirmation email states "I also want to remind you that it's a no pressure call. Of course, we'd love to help another person achieve their goals, but the priority is to find out more about you and your goals and see if you're a fit for what we do." And then, when you read the FAQs sent in the same email: "We only work with those ready to make a change NOW, so you will be required to make a yes/no decision on the phone call".
It may be the greatest program since sliced bread but as I will not accept pressure to make a snap decision at point of sales, and indeed find it faintly immoral that any company would insist on it, I will never find out."

Trinity Transformation response:
Thank you for your feedback. We make sure every phone call is very valuable so attendees always come away with a clear set of goals and a plan to achieve them regardless of whether we decide to work together or not. As you can see from the results on this page, our programmes have made a big difference to the lives of 1000s of women and their families, but there's no pressure to say "yes" on the phone - once you have all the information you can also say "no" and you'll leave with an action plan you can put into action for yourself for free.

Reviewer response:
How about an option to say 'Let me think about it for a week and get back to you'? That's what's missing. If you're forcing people to say yes or no at point of sale, that's not right.
You make such a big thing of understanding 'women over 40'. In which case you should understand that many people have been struggling for years and are willing to clutch at anything that offers hope. Yes, I include myself in that. And that is probably why I find the forced snap decision so wrong.
You see it as 'we only want to work with people ready to make a change'. Well, I am. I *am* changing. I *am* putting in the effort. But that does not mean that if I'm not willing to sign up and hand over my cash to an unknown person after an X-minute chat, that I'm not worth your time.
Rather, you're not worth mine.

I wonder at what exact point ‘women over 40’ become a different species? The moment they wake up on their 40th birthday I suppose?! I’ve spent my entire (much longer than 40 years) life thinking I was human and would remain so.

The only thing ‘different’ about women over 40 is that society places pressure on them to look the same as they did when they were 20 which can make them vulnerable to this sort of marketing hogwash.

Personally, I’d avoid it like the plague - ‘2 stone in 12 weeks without dieting or exercise’? Just send money! 🙄

gerrymouse1969 wrote: »

BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »

I wonder at what exact point ‘women over 40’ become a different species? The moment they wake up on their 40th birthday I suppose?! I’ve spent my entire (much longer than 40 years) life thinking I was human and would remain so.

The only thing ‘different’ about women over 40 is that society places pressure on them to look the same as they did when they were 20 which can make them vulnerable to this sort of marketing hogwash.

Personally, I’d avoid it like the plague - ‘2 stone in 12 weeks without dieting or exercise’? Just send money! 🙄

So they talk about hormones and menapause which certainly impacts me , you do a lot of exercise with strength bands and build up stamina and they do macro counting plan for food. (This is the only eating plan I’ve never done ....)

I lost all my weight (80 pounds) after menopause. It's not a brick wall that appears making weight loss impossible.

I knew it was about calories.

I found this site (free calorie counting) and started using the FOOD diary daily.

I lost 55 pounds in the first eight/nine months.

It's just about calories and you don't have to pay someone. I slowly changed my eating and exercise. It's two steps forward and one step back sometimes but the key is to just keep going. Small changes, forgiving yourself for not being perfect, eating the food you like not the food you think you should be eating. Finding a rhythm and a general direction that works for you.

One day, one meal, one choice at a time. Fall down seven times get back up eight.

I've had a look at the website and it's flash and all, but for all that they talk about science and use 'sciency' words, I see no science, either on the site or linked, to support what they're saying, and I couldn't see any credentials which suggest either of them have a nutrition/medical background and are qualified to make the claims they're making about their program - I'd like to be proven wrong. They move from one science-sounding buzzword (F3 formula? No idea what this is meant to be) to another without actually explaining anything. There are a lot of promises they can't possibly make and no costs anywhere. I always think that being upfront about costs demonstrates that a company knows the value of its product, isn't afraid to shout about it and doesn't have to do the hard sell in order to convince.

I did find Rob Birkhead's personal website, which is very £ orientated. He's an engineering graduate and he's finally, thanks to a good business head and the income from ladies of a certain age, reached his dream of owning a porsche. https://robbirkhead.co.uk/. I can't find anything out about Ben Hughes, but you'd imagine that if he had a medical or nutrition degree - anything relevant really - they'd be shouting about it on the website. First and very foremost, they are business people, using their interest in health and fitness to make themselves rich. I'd be looking for their accounts on Companies House if I had time.

They're not stupid; they're very good at marketing, they've chosen their vulnerable, self-conscious target market for a good reason, and they're both young, conventionally attractive men in their 30's, they KNOW they can sell themselves to them... or perhaps I'm cynical. I have no idea what a qualified personal trainer AND nutritionist would cost, but for £100 to £340 a month, I'd be hoping for more than an engineer. Edited just to add: Plenty of people here without nutrition/medical qualifications who offer solid advice, so I'm not suggesting that academic learning is a prerequisite for giving good guidance and knowing your health/fitness stuff, but when you're charging for that guidance, at those sorts of costs, it really should be a mandatory legal requirement.

If you want to give them your hard earned, it's up to you; if it works for you you might consider it money well spent. Ultimately the only lifestyle change that's going to be successful is the one you can stick with, and if money spent is the main motivator for doing so, it might not be a sustainable in the long-run. If you think this program is the thing that's going to change it for you, then try it (and report back!), but it's worth looking closely and honestly at what's stopped you succeeding previously. If you're a person who needs someone else to keep you accountable, there are other, hopefully more affordable, ways you could achieve that - finding friends here, a once-a-week personal trainer (in line with your budget). Others here are better placed to advise.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do, and remember that you can put the phone down at any point in time - you don't have to be pushed into agreeing to anything you're unsure about.