Anyone doing The Galveston Diet?
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kingscrown
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I started The Galveston Diet 6 weeks ago. Though challenging I’m doing ok. Wondered if anyone else is doing it?
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Seems to be yet another ultra low calorie diet mixed up with IF. Just doing a quick mental calculation, Day 1 is under 500 calories. Day 5 is about 1,000, even with the ice cream. I would gnaw my arm off eating that little. No wonder you’ve found it hard.
And it’s very vague. A “slice” of cheese? Exactly how big is that? Is a slice of bread the 35 calorie kind or the 140 kind? Vanilla ice cream? What brand and fat content. Why vanilla? Is chocolate the devil? Heaven help you if you don’t like tuna, btw.
Instead of being so restrictive, eat what you like (and when you want) but less of it. Learn substitutions- like a 45 calorie tortilla or 35 calorie bread versus the calorie packed kind. Cottage cheese and fruit versus ice cream (unless you prefer ice cream, in which case just eat less of it).
Weight loss doesn’t have to be punishment. Take it slower, enjoy more calories, learn habits you can carry into maintenance and long term future.
For reference, I’ve lost over 40% of my body weight eating what I like, retraining my taste buds (less candy, more fruit for example, trying new vegetables), and eating less of everything overall.
I currently maintain on 2500/day average (although I’d probably be considered unusually active).
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Sorry, I’m not criticizing you. I sincerely want you to be successful whatever you do.
But I’m challenging you to think beyond the paid diet plans.27 -
Hi! Totally new here. Came to the forum and started a search for The Galveston Diet. I don't understand what the above poster is referring to because that doesn't sound like the diet. What is the day 1 at 500? Also I didn't think ice cream was on the meal plan lol. Anyway, I have just started this plan. But I have been basically following the 16-8 Intermittent Fasting for about a year and the basic concept of eating anti-inflammatory foods is what I strive for. I lost 30 pounds when I started with Noom a couple years ago and have maintained. I'm just looking for another program to keep me focused and interested, especially one that is geared towards menopausal women. Have you joined any of the Facebook groups?6
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juliedubya28 wrote: »Hi! Totally new here. Came to the forum and started a search for The Galveston Diet. I don't understand what the above poster is referring to because that doesn't sound like the diet. What is the day 1 at 500? Also I didn't think ice cream was on the meal plan lol. Anyway, I have just started this plan. But I have been basically following the 16-8 Intermittent Fasting for about a year and the basic concept of eating anti-inflammatory foods is what I strive for. I lost 30 pounds when I started with Noom a couple years ago and have maintained. I'm just looking for another program to keep me focused and interested, especially one that is geared towards menopausal women. Have you joined any of the Facebook groups?
The meal plan is not available unless you pay to subscribe.
I was calculating via one of several similar items that came up in google by people purporting to share week one of the plan.
If I’m wrong, I apologize, however, there are many middle aged, post menopausal women on this site (including me) who have successfully lost substantial amounts of weight via simple (and free) CICO. I want to scream, pull out my hair, and comfort and support these women every time I see middle age used as an excuse. To see a doctor touting a special diet for “middle aged weight gain” raises my hackles.
If we keep being told something til we wholeheartedly buy into it, it becomes self fulfilling.
I was told all my life I’d be fat in middle age, and accepted it. It wasn’t til I had an ephiphany that I turned it around and it was not hard and was not painful. It was simply application and focus.37 -
juliedubya28 wrote: »Hi! Totally new here. Came to the forum and started a search for The Galveston Diet. I don't understand what the above poster is referring to because that doesn't sound like the diet. What is the day 1 at 500? Also I didn't think ice cream was on the meal plan lol. Anyway, I have just started this plan. But I have been basically following the 16-8 Intermittent Fasting for about a year and the basic concept of eating anti-inflammatory foods is what I strive for. I lost 30 pounds when I started with Noom a couple years ago and have maintained. I'm just looking for another program to keep me focused and interested, especially one that is geared towards menopausal women. Have you joined any of the Facebook groups?
Generally as we age we decrease our activity level, so as far as I'm concerned, a program for menopausal women would be one that increases activity.
My 83 year old mother struggles to stay above Underweight because she is so active. A few summers ago she was up and down the ladder all day long painting the house. This time of year she does what her former personal trainer calls "extreme gardening" because she does so much of it. (She was working with a trainer until the coronavirus. She may start back up in the winter.) She walks, swims seasonally, does most of her cooking from scratch, hangs laundry on a clothesline, practices yoga, etc.
Her way of eating most closely resembles the Mediterranean Diet.
Here is a good thread about increasing NEAT (defined in the OP):
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10610953/neat-improvement-strategies-to-improve-weight-loss/p18 -
I'd never heard of it before, and found this interesting: https://abbylangernutrition.com/the-galveston-diet-review-menopause-is-the-new-diet-cash-cow/
Most of it seems like some nutrition misinformation (outlined at the link) plus a decently healthy diet (although restricting fruit for any reason other than simply personally enjoying low carb is a pet peeve). If one's diet doesn't already include 25-30 g of fiber, lots of veg, fatty fish, and lean meat, adding in those foods could cause one to lose. In that a lot of it is basically like how I eat anyway, I can't imagine just focusing on eating those foods would help with weight loss, but there certainly are people who could benefit and would improve the nutritional content of their diets.
It seems like she's not too unreasonable on the IFing -- she thinks there may be some hormonal benefits but acknowledges cals are what cause weight loss and there's no evidence that IFing with the same cals has any weight loss benefits.
My main issue is that it seems awfully expensive for a meal plan that one could easily create on one's own, but eh. Each to their own.7 -
springlering62 wrote: »juliedubya28 wrote: »Hi! Totally new here. Came to the forum and started a search for The Galveston Diet. I don't understand what the above poster is referring to because that doesn't sound like the diet. What is the day 1 at 500? Also I didn't think ice cream was on the meal plan lol. Anyway, I have just started this plan. But I have been basically following the 16-8 Intermittent Fasting for about a year and the basic concept of eating anti-inflammatory foods is what I strive for. I lost 30 pounds when I started with Noom a couple years ago and have maintained. I'm just looking for another program to keep me focused and interested, especially one that is geared towards menopausal women. Have you joined any of the Facebook groups?
The meal plan is not available unless you pay to subscribe.
I was calculating via one of several similar items that came up in google by people purporting to share week one of the plan.
If I’m wrong, I apologize, however, there are many middle aged, post menopausal women on this site (including me) who have successfully lost substantial amounts of weight via simple (and free) CICO. I want to scream, pull out my hair, and comfort and support these women every time I see middle age used as an excuse. To see a doctor touting a special diet for “middle aged weight gain” raises my hackles.
If we keep being told something til we wholeheartedly buy into it, it becomes self fulfilling.
I was told all my life I’d be fat in middle age, and accepted it. It wasn’t til I had an ephiphany that I turned it around and it was not hard and was not painful. It was simply application and focus.
Yeah, I'm one of the bolded, though I'd say "through simple and free calorie counting", because I think of CICO as simply the calorie balance equation, and calorie counting as the weight management method.
Back in 2015-16, at age 59-60, I lost 50+ pounds, obese to healthy weight, while menopausal (obviously!), without HRT (which would be horror show for me personally), while severely hypothyroid (which I think is irrelevant if treated, which I am), without significantly changing my exercise routine (I was already active).
On the eating side, I did this:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10636388/free-customized-personal-weight-loss-eating-plan-not-spam-or-mlm/p1
I'm not saying that's perfect for everyone, because there are lots of paths that can potentially work, but that was mine.
It was so much easier than I'd ever dreamed, and much more worthwhile than I'd imagined . . . I could kick myself for not doing it years earlier, frankly.
We're almost 6 years on, and I'm still at a healthy weight, after previous *decades* of obesity, or near-region fatness.
I feel like there's so much mythification, mystification, foggifying and general nonsense from people/firms who want to sell us something, when it comes to weight loss or health. If we figure out that this is something we can do for ourselves, they're SOL for money-making. They need to confuse us, make it seem harder.
Weight management isn't necessarily easy, in a practical, psychological sense, but the underlying requirements are things we regular humans can understand, we don't need that professional profit-making priesthood to guide us through it. But it's dangerous knowledge for us to grasp - the idea that we don't *need* them - from the standpoint of the "diet industry", which profits from feeding us tiny successes, much backsliding; convincing us they have the secrets, but we're too weak or stupid to do what's needed. That's all BS.9 -
I'd never heard of it before, and found this interesting: https://abbylangernutrition.com/the-galveston-diet-review-menopause-is-the-new-diet-cash-cow/
Most of it seems like some nutrition misinformation (outlined at the link) plus a decently healthy diet (although restricting fruit for any reason other than simply personally enjoying low carb is a pet peeve). If one's diet doesn't already include 25-30 g of fiber, lots of veg, fatty fish, and lean meat, adding in those foods could cause one to lose. In that a lot of it is basically like how I eat anyway, I can't imagine just focusing on eating those foods would help with weight loss, but there certainly are people who could benefit and would improve the nutritional content of their diets.
It seems like she's not too unreasonable on the IFing -- she thinks there may be some hormonal benefits but acknowledges cals are what cause weight loss and there's no evidence that IFing with the same cals has any weight loss benefits.
My main issue is that it seems awfully expensive for a meal plan that one could easily create on one's own, but eh. Each to their own.
That link should be very useful for anyone considering the Galveston diet!3 -
kingscrown wrote: »I started The Galveston Diet 6 weeks ago. Though challenging I’m doing ok. Wondered if anyone else is doing it?
I'm not doing that specific diet, but I did do something similar earlier this year for several weeks. Low carb, no grains except quinoa, no dairy, low sugar, nothing to eat after dinner - sounds the same? It was tough to stick to but I did lose 20 lbs fairly quickly. I've plateaued now that I have gone off of it (but at least I haven't gained it back.)1 -
My 83 year old mother struggles to stay above Underweight because she is so active. A few summers ago she was up and down the ladder all day long painting the house. This time of year she does what her former personal trainer calls "extreme gardening" because she does so much of it. (She was working with a trainer until the coronavirus. She may start back up in the winter.) She walks, swims seasonally, does most of her cooking from scratch, hangs laundry on a clothesline, practices yoga, etc.
Same with my father ( obviously not a post menopausal woman but similar age to your mother)
He has always been slim to the point of underweight.
Not hard to see why: he spends lots of time gardening and doing DIY home projects, barely watches TV, does not own a computer or a smart phone, walks to the bus stop, plays bowls, belongs to a walking group......
Obviously hasn't read the Be Less Active When You Are Older manual.11 -
Unless it's a diet you'll do forever, there's really no point in attempting it. Especially if it's really restrictive. Because the chances are high (over 90%) that weight regain will happen once you abandon it. Find a SUSTAINABLE way of eating that you won't regret or rue.
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@springlering62 I have no idea what you're talking about, but it's not remotely like The Galveston Diet.5
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@juliedubya28 I have no idea what the first poster is talking about. Yes, you do need pay for the instructions to the diet and why not. Someone has done the research. There is a "The Galveston Diet" FB group. Its mainly I suspect to learn about it and see if it will work for you. If you have tiktok, Dr Haver talks all about The Galveston Diet. Its her research. So far so good it's working for me. Why it made sense to me is I was basically doing it, but didn't have all the pieces put together. I've been eating paleo. I've cut back on sugar. I've been not eating in the evenings for my GERD. Definitely, look into it. It is not restrictive at all. You can eat as much as you want following the parameters of The Galveston Diet.3
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kingscrown wrote: »I have no idea what you're talking about, but it's not remotely like The Galveston Diet.
Perhaps it would be an idea for you to explain what it is then?
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@33gail33 It is about doing an intermittent Fast, cutting sugar, increasing fiber (veggies). It's really a good livable plan. Not expensive. No re-ocurring fee. So way cheaper than any plan I've ever tried over the years. Its also for menopausal women. So I'm not sure what all the mansplaining about menopausal women's bodies is in this thread. Not sure why they're here, but it's a diet that really would be healthy and affordable for you too. Welcome.7
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@ninerbuff no correct information has been posted in this group about this diet by other people. Its not restrictive at all. Its for reducing inflammation in menopausal women's bodies and therefore helping us lose the stubborn weight. It's not expensive. There's nothing to buy really but the instructions on how to do it. It's more of a method of eating than a diet.6
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@kshama2001 that link is so ridiculous it’s embarrassing. So many things said just to be dramatic not factual.2
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@33gail33 It is about doing an intermittent Fast, cutting sugar, increasing fiber (veggies). It's really a good livable plan. Not expensive. No re-ocurring fee. So way cheaper than any plan I've ever tried over the years. Its also for menopausal women. So I'm not sure what all the mansplaining about menopausal women's bodies is in this thread. Not sure why they're here, but it's a diet that really would be healthy and affordable for you too. Welcome.no correct information has been posted in this group about this diet by other people. Its not restrictive at all. Its for reducing inflammation in menopausal women's bodies and therefore helping us lose the stubborn weight. It's not expensive. There's nothing to buy really but the instructions on how to do it. It's more of a method of eating than a diet.
I am a post menopausal woman - started losing weight in 2013 when I was a peri menopausal woman, kept it off ever since.
Did not buy any diet plan, just followed free MFP calorie counting method - way cheaper than any other plan since free.
Healthy as you like and affordable and since I didnt notice any inflammation in my post menopausal body compared to my pre menopausal body, reducing inflammation was not an issue for me
Nor was 'stubborn weight' - it came off at a slow and steady pace, jut like it does for other people who are not menopausal women, if they eat at an appropriate calorie deficit.
PS a 'method of eating' by definition is a diet.16 -
Re: “mansplaining”, only two of the posters here are men, both highly regarded members who give well considered advice.
I’d much rather receive weight loss and workout support and advice from either of these gentlemen than tiktok.
Your thread has attracted the MFP “warriors”. Every user who has posted here is a “successful loser” (ha!!!), has successfully kept it off, and is posting only out of care in making your weight loss as successful as possible. These are the people who care about your success.
We want you to join us. I won’t say “at the finish line”, because I don’t believe there is any such thing with weight loss.
I sincerely wish you much success, but phrases “stubborn weight” and “ You can eat as much as you want following the parameters of The Galveston Diet” just crush me to my core.
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paperpudding wrote: »@33gail33 It is about doing an intermittent Fast, cutting sugar, increasing fiber (veggies). It's really a good livable plan. Not expensive. No re-ocurring fee. So way cheaper than any plan I've ever tried over the years. Its also for menopausal women. So I'm not sure what all the mansplaining about menopausal women's bodies is in this thread. Not sure why they're here, but it's a diet that really would be healthy and affordable for you too. Welcome.no correct information has been posted in this group about this diet by other people. Its not restrictive at all. Its for reducing inflammation in menopausal women's bodies and therefore helping us lose the stubborn weight. It's not expensive. There's nothing to buy really but the instructions on how to do it. It's more of a method of eating than a diet.
I am a post menopausal woman - started losing weight in 2013 when I was a peri menopausal woman, kept it off ever since.
Did not buy any diet plan, just followed free MFP calorie counting method - way cheaper than any other plan since free.
Healthy as you like and affordable and since I didnt notice any inflammation in my post menopausal body compared to my pre menopausal body, reducing inflammation was not an issue for me
Nor was 'stubborn weight' - it came off at a slow and steady pace, jut like it does for other people who are not menopausal women, if they eat at an appropriate calorie deficit.
PS a 'method of eating' by definition is a diet.
OK. It's great for you that menopause hasn't had a detrimental effect on your body - I am jealous.
Since menopause I have developed frozen shoulder, osteoarthritis, insomnia, hot flashes, chronic rhino-sinusitis and last year post viral fatigue syndrome. And skin cancer. Reducing inflammation is a huge factor for me, up there with weight loss. I am 56 and feel like I have aged 20 years since I turned 50.
The anti-inflammatory type diet I mentioned I was on for 8 weeks (which sounds very similar to the one in the OP) allowed me to straighten my knee completely for the first time in several years, and also reduced bloating and increased energy - along with losing 20 lbs. I started exercising again a couple of weeks into it which is key for me.
And yes a "method of eating" is a diet - therefore we are all technically on a diet.3
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