New York becomes first U.S. city to order COVID vaccines for restaurants, gyms

Same thing is going to happen in the province of Quebec in Canada. Not a big deal in my opinion. One can train at home and order delivery.

If it's just that but you can still go to the grocery store, receive public services etc... then it's the least of my concern.

cwolfman13 wrote: »

I definitely think more of this is coming down the pipe. These types of things are a privilege, not a right and I figured at some point the consequence to vaccine avoidance would become punitive.

I was reading another article this morning that it is highly possible that proof of vaccine will be required for airline travel once the vaccines have full FDA approval. I was reading another article talking about health and life insurance companies raising rates on unvaxed people. I actually just received a memo a couple of days ago from the company I have my life insurance through that they will be raising rates on unvaxed plan participants starting January 1, 2022.

In NM if you are faculty or a student of a state university, vaccines are mandated to be in person...I've also heard of this with many other universities around the country.

My university in Colorado has mandated vaccines for all employees except for approved medical and religious exemptions. Medical exemptions require a doctor's note, I'm not sure what they're doing about religious exemptions. Unvaccinated employees who have to be on campus will be required to wear masks, social distance, and test on a regular basis (weekly testing will be most likely from what I've heard). Those without documented exceptions may also face disciplinary action potentially up to termination if they don't comply with the policy. We've also made vaccination a condition of employment, so all of our newer job postings and letters of offer specifically state the expectation that new employees will be fully vaccinated prior to their university start date.

I don't think there's been a whole lot of pushback on our campus about the new policy. We're an academic medical center with three hospitals on our campus and two additional hospitals that we work closely with, so mandated vaccines aren't terribly unusual for either faculty or staff. I had an office in one of the hospitals--just an office, no patient contact whatsoever--and had to have a measles booster before I could get my keys and flu shots every year.

I'm becoming more interested to hear whether the campus will in fact, fully reopen after Labor Day. We're expecting to hear in the next day or two that masks will be required in all indoors areas again. The school I work for already has two documented cases of vaccinated people that are currently sick with the delta variant, so it will be interesting to see what the administrative response is, especially since we're so close to bringing all the students back in the next few weeks.

YellowD0gs wrote: »

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

Hopefully, the full approval by the FDA is coming soon. This will give businesses, universities, etc, the legal cover they need to require that their employees/patrons/students be vaccinated. Many medical facilities have required their employees to get vaccinations in the past (influenza, chicken pox, etc), so there is precedent.

The fact that it's still under emergency authorization gives people grounds to bring a lawsuit.

Except, at least in Texas, those lawsuits have been thrown out. The Emergency Use Authorization status has nothing to do with it.

"This is not coercion. Methodist (the Hospital) is trying to do their business of saving lives without giving them the COVID-19 virus. It is a choice made to keep staff, patients, and their families safer. [Plaintiffs] can freely choose to accept or refuse a COVID-19 vaccine; however, if [they] refuse, [they] will simply need to work somewhere else."

The 7th Circuit agreed with Indiana U that their policy (either vaccines, attend remotely, or -- with some sort of health or conscience objection -- wear a mask in public spaces and be tested frequently) was legal.

ReenieHJ wrote: »

nooshi713 wrote: »

Good. I actually believe the vaccine should be mandatory for everyone. People’s lives are more important at this time than our “freedoms”.

I heard a blip of this interview on the radio with this older woman who said she was against mandatory vaccinations because 'it takes away my individualism'.
Gimme a break. You want individualism? Get a unique tattoo, wear a fashion statement to call out your individualism. But don't risk being on a ventilator or worse, infecting innocent children.

Exactly.