Help ... Should I gain weight?

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harmonicDanute
harmonicDanute Posts: 7 Member
Female, 24 years old. Recovering from disordered eating which led me to be very, very underweight on my own.

I have reached a point now where I am regularly eating large amounts of food, above my daily requirements, but not gaining anymore.

My BMI is 17.2, which is obviously still underweight, but I'm really struggling to know whether I should be gaining more or just maintaining. I do seem to have a light build for my height and have never gone far above the minimum healthy weight for my height.

I am weak and not very muscular, and can tell I have lost muscle even further through the previous extreme undereating. I have started doing regular strength and resistance exercises to try and combat this.

I struggle with my body feeling and looking much too large to me, and feel like I must have quite a high BF%, especially around the abdomen.

I know that nobody here can give medical advice, but at the moment accessing help is not an option, and I feel I need a perspective other than my own.

Any perspectives/thoughts welcome.

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  • JBanx256
    JBanx256 Posts: 1,473 Member
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    First things first - are you speaking to a mental health professional at all?

    Based on what you've said (including BMI*), it sounds as though you would probably be healthier if you were to gain a bit. However, your mental state is a confounding factor in that gaining weight may cause more distress etc etc...which is why, if at all possible, working with a counselor/therapist would, in my opinion, be highly advisable. There are a myriad of health consequences for being too underweight, especially as a female (low bone density, amenorrhea, etc. Hair and nails won't grow and/or can fall out. I feel confident you know these things, but if you've got personal hurdles preventing you from taking steps to get to a healthier weight (and not hate what you see in the mirror), then that carries its own burdens.

    Are you active at all, or are you interested in being active? I am wondering if you have a "reason" (meaning besides strictly health) to gain some weight - eg, you want to be able to play XYZ sport more competitively or you're interested in starting to lift weights - you may be able to view it more from a standpoint of gaining physical capabilities?

    And this is just me thinking out loud; I could be totally *kitten*-backwards here.

    *yes I fully realize BMI isn't perfect (oh lawd how many threads there are about that on these forums); heck I'm overweight and often toe the line into obese territory based on BMI.
  • viajera99
    viajera99 Posts: 252 Member
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    I struggle with my body feeling and looking much too large to me, and feel like I must have quite a high BF%, especially around the abdomen.
    This part is concerning. Your BMI is, for example, someone 5'5" weighing 104 pounds. It's not that you have a high BF%, it's that you have a low LBM. That's not fat in your abdomen, that's your internal organs.
    It would be optimal for you to reconnect with a therapist, but also with a registered dietician. And of course, it's great that you are doing weight training, and you should continue that.
    Here's a super inspirational video from a young woman who recovered from her ED to become a competitive power lifter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnb-u2ux7JU

    Best of luck to you in your continued recovery.




  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,154 Member
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    Female, 24 years old. Recovering from disordered eating which led me to be very, very underweight on my own.

    I have reached a point now where I am regularly eating large amounts of food, above my daily requirements, but not gaining anymore.

    My BMI is 17.2, which is obviously still underweight, but I'm really struggling to know whether I should be gaining more or just maintaining. I do seem to have a light build for my height and have never gone far above the minimum healthy weight for my height.

    I am weak and not very muscular, and can tell I have lost muscle even further through the previous extreme undereating. I have started doing regular strength and resistance exercises to try and combat this.

    I struggle with my body feeling and looking much too large to me, and feel like I must have quite a high BF%, especially around the abdomen.

    I know that nobody here can give medical advice, but at the moment accessing help is not an option, and I feel I need a perspective other than my own.

    Any perspectives/thoughts welcome.

    If you are not gaining any more, you are not "eating above your daily requirements", by definition. You may be eating above what some so-called calculator estimates as your daily needs, but that's just an *estimate*. If you eat above your daily calorie expenditures (not exactly the same as "needs"**) then you'd be gaining. You aren't.

    ** "Needs" really means the amount that would be best for you. At BMI 17.2, with what you say is less muscle than you'd like, too weak, it seems probable that you should slowly gain a little weight, as much as practical of that gain being muscle, but a little fat may be OK, too. If so, that means that you *need* enough calories to very slowly gain weight, not hold steady in weight: To eat more calories than you burn, in other words. Muscle is more dense than fat, so to stay at about the same size, while gaining muscle, you will slowly gain weight. That's good, appropriate, healthy - will be positive for appearance, too, plus your ability to do things.

    Body fat is not everywhere and always bad: We need some, for health and resilience. So, it seems probable that you should eat a little above what you burn, on average, daily, and continue working on strength/resistance. What do your ED treatment team and your GP doctor say? Or a registered dietitian to whom they refer you? I know you say those aren't available to you now, but access those resources when you can.

    At BMI 17.2, it's extremely unlikely that you have excess fat anywhere, though - if under-muscled - you may feel that the fat you do have and need isn't arranged on your body on the way you'd prefer. Spot reduction isn't possible, but if you increase muscularity, the appearance of fat distribution will change, too. New muscles will create different proportions, with time and patience. (Most of us see ourselves through our outdated self-perceptions; it takes time to catch up mentally . . . by which time the hard-working person's body shape has moved on to an even better place. I'm at BMI 20-point-something, have been in lower 20s for 5+ years, yet as a former obese woman I still move to the side when I meet someone in a narrow hallway, thinking I need to make room for them . . . I don't. My clothes still look so small, like they won't fit: They do. And so forth.)

    IMO, eating for very, very slow gain, and working hard on lifting, would be likely to give the best results for most women in your scenario . . . but you should seek personalized expert advice from specialist doctors, dietitian, *well-credentialed trainers (university degrees in things like kinesiology, plus good certifications), etc., when you can. If you truly can't - yet - maybe think in terms of gaining up to a couple of pounds a month, if you can, getting good nutrition, working hard on your strength exercise.

    Speaking as an older woman who screwed up quite a bit along the way herself, getting this in a good spot while young is a really, really good idea. (I didn't do that.) With discipline and patience, good advice from experts when you can access that, that's still available to you.

    What defines you is not how your body looks at a moment, but your character, things like the work you put in to achieve health, a strong body, a kind and generous spirit, knowledge and insight, and things of that nature. All of us are partly finished, at any snapshot moment. What matters is that striving for improvement.

    Wishing you success, continuing success.
  • harmonicDanute
    harmonicDanute Posts: 7 Member
    edited September 2021
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    JBanx256 wrote: »
    First things first - are you speaking to a mental health professional at all?

    Based on what you've said (including BMI*), it sounds as though you would probably be healthier if you were to gain a bit. However, your mental state is a confounding factor in that gaining weight may cause more distress etc etc...which is why, if at all possible, working with a counselor/therapist would, in my opinion, be highly advisable. There are a myriad of health consequences for being too underweight, especially as a female (low bone density, amenorrhea, etc. Hair and nails won't grow and/or can fall out. I feel confident you know these things, but if you've got personal hurdles preventing you from taking steps to get to a healthier weight (and not hate what you see in the mirror), then that carries its own burdens.

    Are you active at all, or are you interested in being active? I am wondering if you have a "reason" (meaning besides strictly health) to gain some weight - eg, you want to be able to play XYZ sport more competitively or you're interested in starting to lift weights - you may be able to view it more from a standpoint of gaining physical capabilities?

    And this is just me thinking out loud; I could be totally *kitten*-backwards here.

    *yes I fully realize BMI isn't perfect (oh lawd how many threads there are about that on these forums); heck I'm overweight and often toe the line into obese territory based on BMI.

    Hi, thank you so much for taking the time to read and respond.

    Wanting to be more active is a major part of what helped me to gain some of the weight back already. I wasn't functioning and exercise was extremely difficult, even walking. Now that I am able to exercise, I am easing myself into starting to lift weights and doing a lot of yoga.

    I think that if I didn't have this, I most likely would have slipped back already, so thinking of weight gain as a part of increased functionality and strength is definitely something I will try to practice.
  • harmonicDanute
    harmonicDanute Posts: 7 Member
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    viajera99 wrote: »
    I struggle with my body feeling and looking much too large to me, and feel like I must have quite a high BF%, especially around the abdomen.
    This part is concerning. Your BMI is, for example, someone 5'5" weighing 104 pounds. It's not that you have a high BF%, it's that you have a low LBM. That's not fat in your abdomen, that's your internal organs.
    It would be optimal for you to reconnect with a therapist, but also with a registered dietician. And of course, it's great that you are doing weight training, and you should continue that.
    Here's a super inspirational video from a young woman who recovered from her ED to become a competitive power lifter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnb-u2ux7JU

    Best of luck to you in your continued recovery.




    Thank you so much for the response. I am on a waiting list for therapy but I have been on that list for several months now and I have no idea when I will actually be able to see someone. I am trying to take things into my own hands and improve as much as I can with the resources I do have available to me.

    The woman in that video is certainly an inspiration, thank you for sharing!
  • harmonicDanute
    harmonicDanute Posts: 7 Member
    edited September 2021
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    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Female, 24 years old. Recovering from disordered eating which led me to be very, very underweight on my own.

    I have reached a point now where I am regularly eating large amounts of food, above my daily requirements, but not gaining anymore.

    My BMI is 17.2, which is obviously still underweight, but I'm really struggling to know whether I should be gaining more or just maintaining. I do seem to have a light build for my height and have never gone far above the minimum healthy weight for my height.

    I am weak and not very muscular, and can tell I have lost muscle even further through the previous extreme undereating. I have started doing regular strength and resistance exercises to try and combat this.

    I struggle with my body feeling and looking much too large to me, and feel like I must have quite a high BF%, especially around the abdomen.

    I know that nobody here can give medical advice, but at the moment accessing help is not an option, and I feel I need a perspective other than my own.

    Any perspectives/thoughts welcome.

    If you are not gaining any more, you are not "eating above your daily requirements", by definition. You may be eating above what some so-called calculator estimates as your daily needs, but that's just an *estimate*. If you eat above your daily calorie expenditures (not exactly the same as "needs"**) then you'd be gaining. You aren't.

    ** "Needs" really means the amount that would be best for you. At BMI 17.2, with what you say is less muscle than you'd like, too weak, it seems probable that you should slowly gain a little weight, as much as practical of that gain being muscle, but a little fat may be OK, too. If so, that means that you *need* enough calories to very slowly gain weight, not hold steady in weight: To eat more calories than you burn, in other words. Muscle is more dense than fat, so to stay at about the same size, while gaining muscle, you will slowly gain weight. That's good, appropriate, healthy - will be positive for appearance, too, plus your ability to do things.

    Body fat is not everywhere and always bad: We need some, for health and resilience. So, it seems probable that you should eat a little above what you burn, on average, daily, and continue working on strength/resistance. What do your ED treatment team and your GP doctor say? Or a registered dietitian to whom they refer you? I know you say those aren't available to you now, but access those resources when you can.

    At BMI 17.2, it's extremely unlikely that you have excess fat anywhere, though - if under-muscled - you may feel that the fat you do have and need isn't arranged on your body on the way you'd prefer. Spot reduction isn't possible, but if you increase muscularity, the appearance of fat distribution will change, too. New muscles will create different proportions, with time and patience. (Most of us see ourselves through our outdated self-perceptions; it takes time to catch up mentally . . . by which time the hard-working person's body shape has moved on to an even better place. I'm at BMI 20-point-something, have been in lower 20s for 5+ years, yet as a former obese woman I still move to the side when I meet someone in a narrow hallway, thinking I need to make room for them . . . I don't. My clothes still look so small, like they won't fit: They do. And so forth.)

    IMO, eating for very, very slow gain, and working hard on lifting, would be likely to give the best results for most women in your scenario . . . but you should seek personalized expert advice from specialist doctors, dietitian, *well-credentialed trainers (university degrees in things like kinesiology, plus good certifications), etc., when you can. If you truly can't - yet - maybe think in terms of gaining up to a couple of pounds a month, if you can, getting good nutrition, working hard on your strength exercise.

    Speaking as an older woman who screwed up quite a bit along the way herself, getting this in a good spot while young is a really, really good idea. (I didn't do that.) With discipline and patience, good advice from experts when you can access that, that's still available to you.

    What defines you is not how your body looks at a moment, but your character, things like the work you put in to achieve health, a strong body, a kind and generous spirit, knowledge and insight, and things of that nature. All of us are partly finished, at any snapshot moment. What matters is that striving for improvement.

    Wishing you success, continuing success.

    Thank you for taking the time to respond in so much depth. It does help a lot to hear a different perspective, and one that is scientifically based.

    I fully agree that our appearance is not what defines us. I very much want to strive for improvements as far as is possible for me as an individual. I like the idea that it is the work and intention we put in that matters.

    Thank you also for the best wishes, I wish you the very same!
  • cupcakesandproteinshakes
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    I’ve read all the detailed responses here.
    The priority for you is treatment for the ED. Can you call up the clinic and ask how long till you can be seen?

    The clinical guidelines in the uk for most EDs suggest that weight gain is the top priority. Sometimes people are told to stop formal exercise at the start of treatment. As it can be counter to the ultimate goal of gaining weight.

    Decisions about Weight training and other formal exercise plans need to be talked through with the therapy team.

    Wishing you all the best.