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cmriverside wrote: »I wish we had walk-in booster clinics here. We did have but with children now getting vaccinated as well, appointments are definitely necessary.
So getting online and checking it all out is on my to-do list of the day.
Can you not just go to a drugstore there? Here I could go to any CVS or Walgreens, which are all over.
Yeah, I don't understand when people think there are hoops to jump through to get these vaccines - here the medical community is falling over itself to get shots in arms.
Call your regular doctor's office, any doctor's office, or any hospital and ask. All the drug stores have it, so do all the big grocery stores (the ones with pharmacists) and there are multiple other sites set up by Public Health and they are all giving shots.
A 24 hr pharmacy about 11 PM is a pretty good time to go without a wait.1 -
The drugstores in my area that are doing walk-ins are only doing one hour of walk-ins, mid-afternoon, weekdays only. I made an appointment last week, but the earliest I could get within 15 miles was December 30th. I am on the waitlist with my doctor's office and a couple other agencies. I am in King County, WA.3
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When I did the walk-in there was an hour wait in the morning so I filled out the paperwork and said I'd be back in the afternoon. I only had to wait about 10 minutes. My sister in Texas called for an appointment but can't get in until next week.
Mildly sore arm today.2 -
Looks like boosters will be approved for my age group (50+) today. But I read that Moderna says they will have a booster tailored to Omicron variant by March. So not sure now whether to get the regular booster, or wait for that? My 6 months is up December 6.1
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Looks like boosters will be approved for my age group (50+) today. But I read that Moderna says they will have a booster tailored to Omicron variant by March. So not sure now whether to get the regular booster, or wait for that? My 6 months is up December 6.
Most of the virologists I follow are leaning towards vaxxed and boosted folks not having to worry (probably even just vaxxed), but it will take another couple of weeks to get enough lab data and real world data to know what's what.5 -
I wish we had walk-in booster clinics here. We did have but with children now getting vaccinated as well, appointments are definitely necessary.
So getting online and checking it all out is on my to-do list of the day.
Can you not just go to a drugstore there? Here I could go to any CVS or Walgreens, which are all over.
I called them and they said they're making appointments 2 weeks out. So it looks like it'll be awhile before I can get my jab. Better than never though.6 -
I wish we had walk-in booster clinics here. We did have but with children now getting vaccinated as well, appointments are definitely necessary.
So getting online and checking it all out is on my to-do list of the day.
Can you not just go to a drugstore there? Here I could go to any CVS or Walgreens, which are all over.
I called them and they said they're making appointments 2 weeks out. So it looks like it'll be awhile before I can get my jab. Better than never though.
I think the new variant has stirred people up and caused a rush in some places.5 -
I wish we had walk-in booster clinics here. We did have but with children now getting vaccinated as well, appointments are definitely necessary.
So getting online and checking it all out is on my to-do list of the day.
Can you not just go to a drugstore there? Here I could go to any CVS or Walgreens, which are all over.
I called them and they said they're making appointments 2 weeks out. So it looks like it'll be awhile before I can get my jab. Better than never though.
I got mine on November 15 no problem and made a same day appointment early in the morning. Two weeks later and it looks like things are booking up much quicker and people are having to wait at least one to two weeks. I think here it's a combination of a lot of people being hesitant about getting a booster and unsure if it was really warranted and then the new variant came around and new state mandates for government workers, including teachers that to be considered fully vaccinated for the purposes of avoiding unvaxed protocols in the workplace, they have to have their booster before January 1...so there's been a bit of a run here.
It sounds very much like the governor of New Mexico is strongly considering a vaccine mandate for all state employees.5 -
Getting my booster tomorrow. Arrived back in Florida Nov 30 and made it to our condo in the keys last night. We booked out booster for tomorrow last week before we left, but I will say that I just looked at the Publix site and just now (almost 3:30 on Thursday), I could book a booster for 11 am this saturday. Their system here (Florida keys) is much easier than was I was looking at in Massachusetts (just north of Boston) this past month.5
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So I just listened to the first half of today's TWIV epi titled "OMG Omicron". They are disappointed by all the hysteria in the media and social media. There is not enough data to say anything conclusive, but at first glance they see nothing to suggest vaxxed people will not be protected. Studies are currently looking at whether vaccine induced T cells will still be effective, but again they see no reason to think they won't. They noted that South African demographics are much different than the US and SA vaccination rates were really low, so it's misleading to use their numbers to predict anything for the US. The unknown part, if I'm understanding correctly, is if omicron will overtake delta, and if so, what that means for unvaxxed folks.
They said we just have to wait for more data now, but no reason to panic.9 -
Re: vaccine availability, not all doctor offices give them. My GP office is physically co-located at a major urban hospital. At my annual physical yesterday, he said they weren't giving covid shots. (I took my CDC card just in case.) As of yesterday, the hospital was still eligibility screening boosters to 65+ and those with vulnerabilities (i.e. had not updated their system with latest CDC guidance.)
My pharmacy has an online appointment system, but the one time I used it was the single longest time I have ever waited -- 45 minutes. I was told there was zero coordination between online scheduling and whether the pharmacy has the vaccines or administrators available at the time confirmed. Plus, the online system only offers 9-5 appointments even though the pharmacy is open and able to do shots earlier & later. FWIW they show booked until Saturday (which is a terribly day to go because its busy). Conversely just walking at 9pm has always been quick for me. We're trying it tonight. My GP advised the booster and was doing so before the omicron developments. On the whole, I think high demand for shots is probably a good thing.6 -
Towards the end of this TWIV epi, something came up that's been kind of discussed here before so I thought I'd mention it. Dr Alan Dove (a microbiologist) said that he doesn't think the endgame is contant boosters. Considering the history of other coronaviruses he thinks that in a well-vaccinated community, new variants may continue to pop up and spread. Each new variant will basically serve as a "booster", being easily handled by some and causing mild illness in others.
No one else really responded to this, so I'm not so sure this is something they all agree on. I thought it was a nice little tidbit to file away though8 -
Looks like boosters will be approved for my age group (50+) today. But I read that Moderna says they will have a booster tailored to Omicron variant by March. So not sure now whether to get the regular booster, or wait for that? My 6 months is up December 6.
Same age group. My 6 months date is January 17 so I have a bit more time to see how things pan out with omicron.
I'm just a bit concerned that the threshold for "fully vaccinated" will move to 3 shots from 2 and I'll be scrambling at the last minute to meet the standard if I delay too long.3 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »At the very least, this whole Covid pandemic has created awkward and unexpected moments in our lives; giving us a new outlook on etiquette, etc. We didn't celebrate Christmas with anyone last year. This year we thought we'd invite a few people and keep it intimate(our adult children, my sister and her dd, and our niece and her bf). Well, we did. However, we probably should've stated vaccinations mandatory or some such thing because 2 of our relatives are not and will not. So, very awkwardly, we uninvited them. I'll have to talk with dh about it but maybe if we request masks and pre-Christmas negative test??? It just feels so awkward and impolite the whole way around. But with my ds coming who has diabetes, and my sister and I both working with elderly people, I just do NOT want to risk it ya know? I just assumed they were vaccinated and I'm not sure why. I *know* the vaccinated are not immune to this virus but after seeing what fear my sister went through by being exposed to a couple of her friends that she assumed had been vaccinated and were not, then a day after being together, her 2 friends came down with Covid. I felt her friends should've let her know they weren't vaccinated; my sister was working with them often for God's sake.
Argh. IDK. Ready to crawl in a cave and hibernate with the bears.
I am thinking about buying some of the rapid tests from the pharmacy that we can use the day of holiday gatherings. I should probably get them soon, though...my CVS has them right now, but I bet they sell out as the holidays get closer.
I have been using these periodically as well. I plan to travel (by car) across the sputh east US in another week (TX to FL to TN to KY and back to TX... going through all states in between). So I'll be careful with that.1 -
33gail33 - I already have my booster---- but if I were you- I would go on and get my booster when time-- then worry abut If we will need another shot for the new variant later -- because it seems that if we are vaxxed and boosted we may be ok--- just my thoughts8
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Maybe it's finally time to put out some PSAs about taking steps to improve one's health, lose weight, etc. to help improve outcomes when one gets Covid (which unfortunately most will) along with vaxing, masking, distancing, etc.
Imagine the potential reduction of severe Covid issues if someone that was morbidly obese would have lost a pound a week since this all started.9 -
I'm not in any way a virologist or other relevant expert, just a regular ignorant bozo, so I'll throw this speculation out there to see what others, especially those more knowledgeable, think:
I'm thinking that if it turns out we do need a different vax because of Omicron, it would be surprising if they specified a loooong required interval between current booster and new formulation.
Thought process:
I haven't seen much that suggested getting vaccine doses "too close together" would be particularly injurious to healthy people (or to immune suppressed ones, for that matter), where "too close together" was less than the 6 months between second vax and booster, or even less than the X weeks between dose 1 and dose 2, if it wasn't like subsequent days or something really silly.
What I've understood was more that close doses wouldn't be as effective in stimulating the immune system in the useful ways. Most other vaccines (of different types) don't seem to need long separations (like the Covid booster and flu, or flu and shingles, etc.).
What is making y'all think that if one gets a booster now, there's a meaningful risk that you won't be able to get this speculative new vax when it comes out in March, given what you know at this point?0 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Maybe it's finally time to put out some PSAs about taking steps to improve one's health, lose weight, etc. to help improve outcomes when one gets Covid (which unfortunately most will) along with vaxing, masking, distancing, etc.
Imagine the potential reduction of severe Covid issues if someone that was morbidly obese would have lost a pound a week since this all started.
I'm coming around to that way of thinking, too, though for kind of cynical reasons.
I still don't think it would be very effective, given the number of people who don't think they're fat (BMI lies, big boned, just too muscular from that 15 minutes trudging on the treadmill twice a week, whatever), think they're "too old" to get fitter, aren't going to let the gubmint or those corrupt medical people tell them what to do ("Mah FreeDumb!!") . . . or, more defensibly, literally don't know what to do with themselves under stress except stress eat, or are under extremes of financial or time-availability stress because of personal pandemic-induced circumstances.
Still, if there's a way to do that with modest expenditure, without causing huge stupid public push-back, even a tiny dent in the so-called obesity crisis could be a good thing, for Covid mortality and other reasons.2 -
Just learned that Pfizer & Moderna (maybe others, too) actually did develop boosters for a number of prior variants (beta, delta) in the event it was deemed to be necessary (a la warp speed). In the end, the CDC determined existing vaccines are sufficiently effective against those variants not to warrant investment in clinical trials, regulatory process, etc. to bring the variant specific boosters to market. Omicron is being handled similarly. Teams are developing omicron specific boosters but that does not mean they will eventually come to market. More data needed.8
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I'm not in any way a virologist or other relevant expert, just a regular ignorant bozo, so I'll throw this speculation out there to see what others, especially those more knowledgeable, think:
I'm thinking that if it turns out we do need a different vax because of Omicron, it would be surprising if they specified a loooong required interval between current booster and new formulation.
Thought process:
I haven't seen much that suggested getting vaccine doses "too close together" would be particularly injurious to healthy people (or to immune suppressed ones, for that matter), where "too close together" was less than the 6 months between second vax and booster, or even less than the X weeks between dose 1 and dose 2, if it wasn't like subsequent days or something really silly.
What I've understood was more that close doses wouldn't be as effective in stimulating the immune system in the useful ways. Most other vaccines (of different types) don't seem to need long separations (like the Covid booster and flu, or flu and shingles, etc.).
What is making y'all think that if one gets a booster now, there's a meaningful risk that you won't be able to get this speculative new vax when it comes out in March, given what you know at this point?
I think that what they're saying (because I have the same thought, with my booster due in a month) is that perhaps it's better to wait another 2 weeks or a month and get an OMICRON booster if that comes out and is recommended. Otherwise, you get your booster and then may have to get another one in a short time.
However, from what the experts are saying here, the regular booster should be fine. Our OMICROM family is being tested and results will be out in 2 weeks. We'll see if there are other indications.1
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