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Current research suggests that red meat is a carcinogen. Obviously "current research" changes all of the time. But personally I have no doubt that the environment and my body would benefit if I consumed fewer animal products.
All of that aside, I think the basis of the Starch Solution is caloric density and fullness factor. Potatoes in particular, have been rated the highest of all foods on the satiety index. Meaning that a plain cooked potato by weight will make you feel fuller than any other food. Potatoes contain about 350 calories per pound. By comparison, olive oil contains 4,000 calories per pound. Lean ground beef contains around 800. Broccoli has 150.
Most humans on average eat 3-5 pounds of food a day, regardless of the type of food. The idea is if the bulk of our diet came from starches, we would naturally be consuming fewer calories without feeling hungry. Is that feasible for everyone? No. I prefer balance and I NEED chocolate in my life. But it definitely makes me rethink the amount of butter I put on my toast, and maybe swap my steak for lentils every once in a while. The principals in the Starch Solution (and similar programs) are what helped me lose my last 30 lbs. It's not my bible but I think it a good tool. As with all things, to be taken with a grain of salt.0 -
Current research suggests that red meat is a carcinogen. Obviously "current research" changes all of the time. But personally I have no doubt that the environment and my body would benefit if I consumed fewer animal products.
All of that aside, I think the basis of the Starch Solution is caloric density and fullness factor. Potatoes in particular, have been rated the highest of all foods on the satiety index. Meaning that a plain cooked potato by weight will make you feel fuller than any other food. Potatoes contain about 350 calories per pound. By comparison, olive oil contains 4,000 calories per pound. Lean ground beef contains around 800. Broccoli has 150.
Most humans on average eat 3-5 pounds of food a day, regardless of the type of food. The idea is if the bulk of our diet came from starches, we would naturally be consuming fewer calories without feeling hungry. Is that feasible for everyone? No. I prefer balance and I NEED chocolate in my life. But it definitely makes me rethink the amount of butter I put on my toast, and maybe swap my steak for lentils every once in a while. The principals in the Starch Solution (and similar programs) are what helped me lose my last 30 lbs. It's not my bible but I think it a good tool. As with all things, to be taken with a grain of salt.
But here’s the problem; if I eat 1lb of potatoes I will personally experience a massive sugar crash c1-1.5hrs after eating them, leading me to crave more carbs to relieve those horrible symptoms. If I eat 1lb of meat, it will have minimal effect on my sugar levels. Satiety is personal and for me fat and protein don’t unduly affect my blood sugar levels and are actually more sustaining and therefore filling. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a carboholic by nature but a lunch with lots of protein and the right fats will lead to less calories for me than a baked potato. I haven’t read the startch principle but it sounds like it generalises what people will find filling. We all digest at different rates (partly depending on gut bacteria and whether we have IBS, stomach conditions, reflux etc).
That’s a long winded way of saying one rule won’t work for everyone!
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I love potatoes...but eating potatoes and sweet potatoes everyday for multiple meals would get really boring really fast. I would think for most people, sustainability long term over the months and often years required to lose weight would be an issue. Variety is the spice of life and I don't have to eat a simple and boring menu to lose weight...I lost 40 Lbs just fine eating a well rounded, nutritious, balanced diet and having pizza and movie night most Fridays.
The whole cancer thing is also taken way out of context. In general, men have a lifetime risk of coralrectal cancer of 4.3%. Processed meats show a 1.18%X increased risk...so instead of 4.3% it goes to basically 4.4% if you round. Red meat is Group 2A, so even lower. Heredity is the biggest factor in coralrectal cancer. In general, just walking around and breathing our polluted air is a much greater cancer risk than if I have ham on my sandwich or if I have a nice steak dinner out with my wife.7 -
Current research suggests that red meat is a carcinogen. Obviously "current research" changes all of the time. But personally I have no doubt that the environment and my body would benefit if I consumed fewer animal products.
All of that aside, I think the basis of the Starch Solution is caloric density and fullness factor. Potatoes in particular, have been rated the highest of all foods on the satiety index. Meaning that a plain cooked potato by weight will make you feel fuller than any other food. Potatoes contain about 350 calories per pound. By comparison, olive oil contains 4,000 calories per pound. Lean ground beef contains around 800. Broccoli has 150.
Most humans on average eat 3-5 pounds of food a day, regardless of the type of food. The idea is if the bulk of our diet came from starches, we would naturally be consuming fewer calories without feeling hungry. Is that feasible for everyone? No. I prefer balance and I NEED chocolate in my life. But it definitely makes me rethink the amount of butter I put on my toast, and maybe swap my steak for lentils every once in a while. The principals in the Starch Solution (and similar programs) are what helped me lose my last 30 lbs. It's not my bible but I think it a good tool. As with all things, to be taken with a grain of salt.
I can eat a crap ton of potatoes, and not feel satisfied. Protein satisfies me, not carbs. So, your assertion that by consuming the bulk of our diet from starches will make us not feel hungry, is not true. It might work for some, but the sugar crash makes you crave more, and be hungry sooner.2 -
musicfan68 wrote: »Current research suggests that red meat is a carcinogen. Obviously "current research" changes all of the time. But personally I have no doubt that the environment and my body would benefit if I consumed fewer animal products.
All of that aside, I think the basis of the Starch Solution is caloric density and fullness factor. Potatoes in particular, have been rated the highest of all foods on the satiety index. Meaning that a plain cooked potato by weight will make you feel fuller than any other food. Potatoes contain about 350 calories per pound. By comparison, olive oil contains 4,000 calories per pound. Lean ground beef contains around 800. Broccoli has 150.
Most humans on average eat 3-5 pounds of food a day, regardless of the type of food. The idea is if the bulk of our diet came from starches, we would naturally be consuming fewer calories without feeling hungry. Is that feasible for everyone? No. I prefer balance and I NEED chocolate in my life. But it definitely makes me rethink the amount of butter I put on my toast, and maybe swap my steak for lentils every once in a while. The principals in the Starch Solution (and similar programs) are what helped me lose my last 30 lbs. It's not my bible but I think it a good tool. As with all things, to be taken with a grain of salt.
I can eat a crap ton of potatoes, and not feel satisfied. Protein satisfies me, not carbs. So, your assertion that by consuming the bulk of our diet from starches will make us not feel hungry, is not true. It might work for some, but the sugar crash makes you crave more, and be hungry sooner.
Hmm.. starchy foods! Bread, oats, rice, pasta, couscous.. yes, also potatoes every now and then. They really make me full. But non-starchy veggies, protein and fats do nothing for me. But the good thing is: Bread is life!
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musicfan68 wrote: »Current research suggests that red meat is a carcinogen. Obviously "current research" changes all of the time. But personally I have no doubt that the environment and my body would benefit if I consumed fewer animal products.
All of that aside, I think the basis of the Starch Solution is caloric density and fullness factor. Potatoes in particular, have been rated the highest of all foods on the satiety index. Meaning that a plain cooked potato by weight will make you feel fuller than any other food. Potatoes contain about 350 calories per pound. By comparison, olive oil contains 4,000 calories per pound. Lean ground beef contains around 800. Broccoli has 150.
Most humans on average eat 3-5 pounds of food a day, regardless of the type of food. The idea is if the bulk of our diet came from starches, we would naturally be consuming fewer calories without feeling hungry. Is that feasible for everyone? No. I prefer balance and I NEED chocolate in my life. But it definitely makes me rethink the amount of butter I put on my toast, and maybe swap my steak for lentils every once in a while. The principals in the Starch Solution (and similar programs) are what helped me lose my last 30 lbs. It's not my bible but I think it a good tool. As with all things, to be taken with a grain of salt.
I can eat a crap ton of potatoes, and not feel satisfied. Protein satisfies me, not carbs. So, your assertion that by consuming the bulk of our diet from starches will make us not feel hungry, is not true. It might work for some, but the sugar crash makes you crave more, and be hungry sooner.
Hmm.. starchy foods! Bread, oats, rice, pasta, couscous.. yes, also potatoes every now and then. They really make me full. But non-starchy veggies, protein and fats do nothing for me. But the good thing is: Bread is life!
Well, if you are what you eat, right now I'm this delicious garlic bread on naan(?) type thing cuz HOLY CRAP I'VE EATEN A LOT OF IT OVER THE PAST 3 DAYS.2 -
Hmm I can take or leave most bread, but a decent sourdough dipped into an olive oil and balsamic mix - now THAT I could eat tonnes of 😀3
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claireychn074 wrote: »Hmm I can take or leave most bread, but a decent sourdough dipped into an olive oil and balsamic mix - now THAT I could eat tonnes of 😀
Oh nom!
It's interesting though: The TO eats potatoes. And that's really the only starchy food she mentions. Where are the other lovely starches?1 -
claireychn074 wrote: »Hmm I can take or leave most bread, but a decent sourdough dipped into an olive oil and balsamic mix - now THAT I could eat tonnes of 😀
Oh nom!
It's interesting though: The TO eats potatoes. And that's really the only starchy food she mentions. Where are the other lovely starches?
Sweet potato (kumura), pears, banana? Yeah, those have a lot of (inherent) sugar, but also complex carbohydrates (starches), not all of them fiber.
Somehow I get 225g+ carbs pretty much every day, but don't eat much bread (meh to me, mostly), or potatoes, and it's not all sugars by far.
Note: This is not an endorsement of OP's overall dietary approach. Far from.0 -
claireychn074 wrote: »Hmm I can take or leave most bread, but a decent sourdough dipped into an olive oil and balsamic mix - now THAT I could eat tonnes of 😀
Somehow I get 225g+ carbs pretty much every day, but don't eat much bread (meh to me, mostly), or potatoes, and it's not all sugars by far. .
I also get 200g+ of carbs and don’t eat much bread, but I get c 120g protein and 80g fat too (unlike the OP). My sugar count is sometimes a bit high but I’m a pig for fruit 🤷♂️0 -
The whole cancer thing is also taken way out of context. In general, men have a lifetime risk of coralrectal cancer of 4.3%. Processed meats show a 1.18%X increased risk...so instead of 4.3% it goes to basically 4.4% if you round. Red meat is Group 2A, so even lower.
Agreed.
There also dosage.
It isnt eat, say, one sausage a week and increase your risk - the risk increase also depends on how much processed red meat you eat. Obviously.
So I would take all that to mean if you are at increased risk of bowel cancer because of family history or some background medical issue - then it would be best to limit your intake of processed red meats.
Limit - not cut out. (unless you want to for other reasons)
and, more to the point, get regular FOBT's ( at least 2 yearly after age 50, earlier/more often if increased risk) - little promo here nothing to do with OP really - as they are the greatest method of screening for early changes before the condition is problematic.1
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