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The Latest Trend is Fasting: What say you?
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Except it's not -- many people do 16:8 and eat late. Personally, looking back at my own weight loss success, I would swear by ignoring the don't eat after 7 advice. Making things simple and figuring out what worked for me was important in that, and I usually worked until 7 and even when I didn't often worked out after work and then commuted home. So if I had stressed about a pointless rule like not eating after 7, it would have derailed me -- I would have worried about whether it was hopeless anyway or tried to find a way to eat dinner at work (which would have interfered with my enjoyment of eating and ability to have fresh cooked meals, etc.). As it was, I went with the schedule that worked for me, logged, saw results, and realized that for me eating around 9 worked great as I was never hungry before bed and could easily stick with my own preferred (not saying anyone else should prefer it) plan to eat only at meals, no snacking.
Anyway, I did a form of IF for a while when it fit my schedule, as I can basically take or leave breakfast. I'm back to eating 3x/day, no snacks, since I find that fits my preferences better, at least with my current schedule and nutrition goals. I can see why it would be helpful for some, but I don't see it as any different in kind or having greater effects than any other schedule that helps someone (for those of us who find schedules useful in controlling cals).2 -
I believe that IF has helped me lose weight! I started my quest at 239 pounds. By just diet adjustment and exercise alone, I got down to about 170 lbs. I really wanted to get centered in my BMI index at 155. I started doing 16:8 IF the five work days of the week last Spring. I really didn't think this would be possible as for years if I didn't eat within a half an hour of getting up in the morning my stomach would be messed up for the whole day. It was tough the first week to skip breakfast. As I went along it got easier and I started doing a 23 hour fast on Wednesday's. I had read about autophogy and thought I'd give it a try. There's some debate whether autophagy takes place in 23 hours, but I tried it anyhow. It wasn't all that hard! I did drink a lot of water however. Then just to prove to myself that I could do it, I did a 47 hour fast! Once again, it wasn't all that hard and indeed as they said would happen, I really felt great the last 8 hours! I found it important to understand that food does not make you or rule you and that you posses the power to control consumption.
I managed to not only meet my goal of 155 lbs, but my all time low is 152.3 lbs! Now that the cold weather has arrived with Winter, I have found myself much hungrier in the morning. Seeing as I'm down to around 18% body fat and lifting weights more, I am now going to start with "protein shakes" in the morning and will adjust my calories through the rest of the day to allow this.
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Except it's not -- many people do 16:8 and eat late. Personally, looking back at my own weight loss success, I would swear by ignoring the don't eat after 7 advice. Making things simple and figuring out what worked for me was important in that, and I usually worked until 7 and even when I didn't often worked out after work and then commuted home. So if I had stressed about a pointless rule like not eating after 7, it would have derailed me -- I would have worried about whether it was hopeless anyway or tried to find a way to eat dinner at work (which would have interfered with my enjoyment of eating and ability to have fresh cooked meals, etc.). As it was, I went with the schedule that worked for me, logged, saw results, and realized that for me eating around 9 worked great as I was never hungry before bed and could easily stick with my own preferred (not saying anyone else should prefer it) plan to eat only at meals, no snacking.
Anyway, I did a form of IF for a while when it fit my schedule, as I can basically take or leave breakfast. I'm back to eating 3x/day, no snacks, since I find that fits my preferences better, at least with my current schedule and nutrition goals. I can see why it would be helpful for some, but I don't see it as any different in kind or having greater effects than any other schedule that helps someone (for those of us who find schedules useful in controlling cals).
This is not a disagreement with the post quoted (I agree with it), just continuing this line of conversation with an opinion/observation.
I've seen some posts here on MFP sometimes that say "I lost weight immediately when I stopped eating after 7" (or 6, 8, whatever), and in the course of the post/thread, it becomes clear that the person does AM weigh-ins.
Speaking as a person who never does IF (unpleasant and unnecessary for me), and who often eats a big dinner very late, shortly before bed . . . eating a large volume, very late, does increase my morning weight, compared to rare days when I stop eating earlier for some reason. However, eating early or late makes zero difference in my longer-term weight trend or weight range, that I've ever observed over almost 7 continuous years of calorie counting.
I do occasionally step on the scale at other times of day (not out of obsession, but curiosity about exercise hydration or whatever), and on days when my morning weight is high from a big, late meal the day before, I'll see a lower weight sometime later in the day. It's about the fluctuation in digestive contents on their way to becoming waste, nothing about body fat changes.
I'm far from arguing that this is true for everyone who IFs - a strategy I think is reasonable for those whom it suits - but I do think a few people are deceived into believing that IF has special weight-loss effects, from this kind of observation. It's somewhat similar to people thinking they've regained fat or are in a stall/plateau when it becomes clear after discussion that they're seeing a water weight jump, and misinterpreting it as fat regain or stalled loss.
Repeating: I think IF is fine as a strategy for those it suits (though I have reservations about multi-day water fasts' impact on optimal well-being), and I don't think every IF-er is misinterpreting food/waste fluctuations as body fat changes. I think it happens sometimes, and can contribute to some people perceiving IF as having special weight-loss powers.7 -
I have been IFing since 2014. I love it. Back then, I tipped the scales at just under 400lbs. I’m now 183lbs. IF alone had worked for a while, but once I got closer to goal, I had to start fine tuning. I got to 165 once, then started gaining, until I hit about 220. I stayed there for about 2 years before I got pregnant and spent the subsequent year not really adhering to any kind of IF plan. Now I’m going on 3 years post baby, and I’ve gone from my post pregnancy weight of 287 to 183 in that time.
What I’ve learned over the years is that too much fasting- IE one meal a day or extended fasting- makes me overeat. Eating too little in a day, regardless if I’m IFing or not, triggers my food addiction. So for me, IF provides me great structure, and the feeling of not really “dieting” when I follow a two meal, 16:8-19:5 plan. I get to eat two rather large meals- typically 600-800 calories a piece- which negates any feelings of deprivation. However, I also have to make sure I’m eating enough, as I have had experiences in eating too little in my window for an extended period of time that backfired. It led me to overeating and probably even bingeing quite a few times. So for me, it’s a matter of finding the right balance. I love IF and do not enjoy the way I feel if I eat all day long anymore. I feel sluggish and nauseous. IF gives me energy, the structure I need, and the feeling of not being deprived that I have had in the past when dieting without IF.
I know it’s not for everyone, but it is for me.9 -
it rlly depends on the person. i'm muslim & we fast for around 16 hrs in ramadan but eat towards the end of the day. ++ i have an eating disorder that's restrictive and i fast because of it (as in full days no food which yes i'm aware is totally wrong) and i think the way i do it is v unhealthy, going something like 100 hrs with no food etc is not good at all but i think fasting is nice if there;s an eating window in the same day3
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Thewonderofitall wrote: »I believe that IF has helped me lose weight! I started my quest at 239 pounds. By just diet adjustment and exercise alone, I got down to about 170 lbs. I really wanted to get centered in my BMI index at 155. I started doing 16:8 IF the five work days of the week last Spring. I really didn't think this would be possible as for years if I didn't eat within a half an hour of getting up in the morning my stomach would be messed up for the whole day. It was tough the first week to skip breakfast. As I went along it got easier and I started doing a 23 hour fast on Wednesday's. I had read about autophogy and thought I'd give it a try. There's some debate whether autophagy takes place in 23 hours, but I tried it anyhow. It wasn't all that hard! I did drink a lot of water however. Then just to prove to myself that I could do it, I did a 47 hour fast! Once again, it wasn't all that hard and indeed as they said would happen, I really felt great the last 8 hours! I found it important to understand that food does not make you or rule you and that you posses the power to control consumption.
Let me be the first to congratulate you @Thewonderofitall for reaching autophagy!!! Oh, and congrats to every other person who lives on the planet, because they have 'reached' autophagy as well!!
First off, let's define our terms...
Autophagy -> the process that the body goes thru to cleanup dead and dying cells (nothing more, nothing less).
There is nothing magical about autophagy... your body is very skilled at doing it and does it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, regardless of your eating patterns. There is some evidence that there is a slight uptick in autophagy as a result of fasting, but it is a SLIGHT uptick (there is also some evidence that the uptick actually occurs after you break your fast and not during the fast).
To get back to the original topic, IF is a great tool for controlling the amount of food that a person eats (for some at least), but there is nothing magical about it - calories consumed still count and it is scarily easy to over-consume calories even during IF.10 -
Fasting, skipping breakfast, eating low calorie- it's all the same. Calorie deficit is why it works. I actually do "IF" most days because I prefer to workout on an empty stomach (otherwise I feel pukey during a hard workout). Workout 830-930, get home around 10am... Also have small kids so dinner at 530 and done by 6. So technically I'm doing 16:8 most days. On weekends we eat breakfast around 8 and I do find it tough not to snack until lunch at noon. I imagine it's just that- snacking vs not snacking can make or break your deficit depending on what you're having. It's all deficit though and timing is just psychology and limiting your chances to mess up the deficit.6
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Let me be the first to congratulate you @Thewonderofitall for reaching autophagy!!! Oh, and congrats to every other person who lives on the planet, because they have 'reached' autophagy as well!!
Well that was kind of snotty!There is nothing magical about autophagy... your body is very skilled at doing it and does it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, regardless of your eating patterns. There is some evidence that there is a slight uptick in autophagy as a result of fasting, but it is a SLIGHT uptick (there is also some evidence that the uptick actually occurs after you break your fast and not during the fast).
Not from everything I've read. I have to strongly disagree with this.To get back to the original topic, IF is a great tool for controlling the amount of food that a person eats (for some at least), but there is nothing magical about it - calories consumed still count and it is scarily easy to over-consume calories even during IF.
So you're just ignoring the "Fed" and "Fasted" body states? Well it helped me lose weight a lot better then non-fasting while consuming the same number of calories.
To each their own!
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Thewonderofitall wrote: »Let me be the first to congratulate you @Thewonderofitall for reaching autophagy!!! Oh, and congrats to every other person who lives on the planet, because they have 'reached' autophagy as well!!
Well that was kind of snotty!There is nothing magical about autophagy... your body is very skilled at doing it and does it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, regardless of your eating patterns. There is some evidence that there is a slight uptick in autophagy as a result of fasting, but it is a SLIGHT uptick (there is also some evidence that the uptick actually occurs after you break your fast and not during the fast).
Not from everything I've read. I have to strongly disagree with this.To get back to the original topic, IF is a great tool for controlling the amount of food that a person eats (for some at least), but there is nothing magical about it - calories consumed still count and it is scarily easy to over-consume calories even during IF.
So you're just ignoring the "Fed" and "Fasted" body states? Well it helped me lose weight a lot better then non-fasting while consuming the same number of calories.
To each their own!
Full digestive transit, according to research, can take up to 2 days (50+ hours), and in some cases probably longer. During much of that transit, nutrients (using the term broadly) are being harvested from the food intake, and metabolized by the body. The even includes, as it's coming to be understood, nutrients metabolized by several pounds of gut microbes that aren't even genetically "us", microbes whose waste becomes a biochemical influence on our well-being in various ways.
"Fasted" and "fed" states are a little complicated, in that context. There are sources that seek to oversimplify that. (I don't know your sources, so I'm not asserting they're among them, just that it's a common thing.)
Intermittent fasting (IF) can be a fine strategy. If it helps a specific individual person eat appropriate number of calories, get overall good nutrition, stay energetic and happy, reach and sustain good health markers (blood tests and all that), I'm all for it . . . for that person.
I'd encourage everyone to look at sound, research-based sources, and seek out critiques of those sources, too, before buying into any one/few advocates' analysis, or explanation of underlying mechanisms. To be clear, I'd say that about any subject where a person is making important life decisions, not just eating strategies.
While I try to avoid getting into personal critiques with others who post here - perhaps not always successfully - I'd underscore that autophagy is a normal body process that occurs in everyone, at least everyone healthy, routinely. The argument at the margin is whether it happens more in people who intentionally fast, in what ways, and to what extent that's a good thing or not. Normal people don't need to fast in order for autophagy to take place at all.
I'd observe that in most human cultures across centuries of history, most people have avoided fasting most of the time (other than some religious/cultural practices that tend to be time limited, or a small minority of people); and that generally people have been as relatively long-lived and thriving as their overall life context permitted. There have been periods of food scarcity, or course, and I'm sure natural selection has shaped human physiology to survive them. The specific historical groups affected by serious food scarcity are not likely to have been in peak health, but it's conceivable that some of the adaptive mechanisms could be carefully engaged to individual benefit. It's an interesting and evolving topic.9 -
Thewonderofitall wrote: »Let me be the first to congratulate you @Thewonderofitall for reaching autophagy!!! Oh, and congrats to every other person who lives on the planet, because they have 'reached' autophagy as well!!
Well that was kind of snotty!There is nothing magical about autophagy... your body is very skilled at doing it and does it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, regardless of your eating patterns. There is some evidence that there is a slight uptick in autophagy as a result of fasting, but it is a SLIGHT uptick (there is also some evidence that the uptick actually occurs after you break your fast and not during the fast).
Not from everything I've read. I have to strongly disagree with this.To get back to the original topic, IF is a great tool for controlling the amount of food that a person eats (for some at least), but there is nothing magical about it - calories consumed still count and it is scarily easy to over-consume calories even during IF.
So you're just ignoring the "Fed" and "Fasted" body states? Well it helped me lose weight a lot better then non-fasting while consuming the same number of calories.
To each their own!
You also might not want ot be in such a hurry to try and induce autophagy...
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/autophagy
From the article linked above:
"Autophagy itself is not always positive. StudiesTrusted Source have shown that excessive autophagy may kill cells in the heart, and scientists have linked excessive autophagy to some heart problems."
also from that same article:
"For instance, a recent 2019 study surveys existing research into autophagy and cancer. It finds that while autophagy can help to stall the development of cancer cells, it may also promote their growth, depending on the stage of the tumor."
And from the summary of that article:
"Autophagy is an essential bodily process that removes damaged and unnecessary parts of cells. There is evidence that it can have both positive and adverse health effects.
Although research has shown that dietary restriction, exercise, and curcumin intake may influence autophagy, most studies have taken place on non-human animals.
Scientists do not have a full picture of the health implications of autophagy, nor of how individuals might induce it."
So, I don't know which of the "guru's" you are reading, but you might try expanding your reading...
Wanted to note - where it says 'Trusted Source' in the above quotes, those are links in the original article that didn't cut/paste with the quote. All of the links from the article are listed at the bottom in the bibliography.6 -
And the fasting "gurus" got very excited about autophagy research done on yeast.
'Cos yeast and humans are clearly virtually indistinguishable!
There's lots of money being made by these prophets spouting vaguely science sounding twaddle to the gullible.
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I don't think most people have the will power to fast. I've done fasts, longest being 41 hours. I've never been "fat" per BMI chart and in 45 years I've never taken any permanent medications or had any major illnesses. I don't follow trends. I do it because I like it, much like people like eating smaller meals or whatever. There has been medical research on fasting, lots of good stuff to read. Lack of will power is usually my breaking point. You have a medical professional in your family and I'm sure he knows much more than popular opinion or preference. Sometimes the harder option has extra benefits, just my opinion.
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One more! The benefits are real, just my experience!
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"Yogic way of life" - appears to be source of that information.
Sure, if sensible fasting routines suit you, do them. I dont think anyone is disputing they suit some people
and if they don't, dont do them.
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I don't know if IF works as a way of boosting your metabolism, or if it's merely a fad.
Some religions/cults use fasting as a kind of meditative reflection, to try to get closer to God, but even then, they only do it once a month.
I worked with a girl 20 years ago who had a 'cleanse' every week, even though there was no medical need for it, she was very petite and slim.
It's an interesting idea, and I think if you've plateaued on your weight loss journey, it might be an idea to have a day off, just to see if it works or helps, but split it equally over two days, start at midday on day one, and finish at midday on day two.1 -
paperpudding wrote: »"Yogic way of life" - appears to be source of that information.
Thanks. I was going to ask. ;-)
That something can be printed and stapled doesn't actually make it some kind of definitive source, IMO.Sure, if sensible fasting routines suit you, do them. I dont think anyone is disputing they suit some people
and if they don't, dont do them.
That's all.
Exactly this!
I also don't agree that the distinction between people who like fasting and those who don't is willpower or that most people lack the willpower to fast. IME, it depends on the reasons (or what one believes is the reason or benefit). If fasting seemed important enough, I am sure everyone healthy could do it and willpower wouldn't prevent it, but for most it probably doesn't seem important (or beneficial) at all.
I think there are benefits to fasting for religious reasons sometimes, but of course I don't think everyone will or should agree with me on that, and I don't pretend that occasionally fasting means I have more willpower than others.5 -
I didnt see that comment about will power.
The reason I dont do any fasting is not because I dont have sufficient will power - it is because it has no benifit for me to do so, the way I am eating already suits me quite well and I have no religious or spiritual motive for doing so either.
Other people - do it sensibly if you want and if you see some benifit or motive in doing so
But there is no will power superiority or anything about it.
and most of those claims in Yogi way of life photos are purely subjective5 -
paperpudding wrote: »I didnt see that comment about will power.
The reason I dont do any fasting is not because I dont have sufficient will power - it is because it has no benifit for me to do so, the way I am eating already suits me quite well and I have no religious or spiritual motive for doing so either.
Other people - do it sensibly if you want and if you see some benifit or motive in doing so
But there is no will power superiority or anything about it.
and most of those claims in Yogi way of life photos are purely subjective
100% agree and I say that as someone who does IF.
I find it easy, my body responds really well to it, and it takes me infinitely less discipline than eating multiple small meals a day used to.
I have no special will power, just a body that responds really, really well to IF.
If it took constant will power, I wouldn't do it. I'm exceedingly lazy when it comes to how I eat. I have a very healthy diet and lifestyle, but only because I've found ways to make it easy.
Constant will power? No thanks, I'll pass.9 -
I tried If for a few weeks. Pretty much hated it. Read and watched a million sources of info. from very reputable science articles to salesmen who also are doctors.
My conclusion:
Losing weight the "IF" way isn't superior to losing weight by watching what you eat and for the most part: not sustainable.2 -
I Fast intermittently. I usually do an 8 hour eating window because it works for my schedule. I've fasted for weight loss alone in the past and it was too restrictive for me. I lost lbs but wasn't able to stick to it so they came back. The intermittent schedule has me gradually losing lbs and my energy levels are fine. I think I may even be sleeping better.1
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I don't eat breakfast and eat up to 11:30pm at night. My next meal isn't until after 12pm. Timing of meals doesn't matter nor when you eat. But I've been doing 12 hours between meals for years and have stayed within 10lbs almost all of that time.
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I stick to 4-5 meals because I don't want to stuff 2500 calories in one sitting2
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IF is just stupid in my opinion. Weight loss is solely down to calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, when you eat it, as long as you are in a calorie deficit the weight comes off. You end up in binges by starving yourself and hence puts you in surplus of calories. A controlled calorie diet eating regular to help your body function throughout the day is the only logical way to lose weight and keep it that way. No food is good or bad just some food is nutrient dense and some isn’t. It is bull that you can’t eat after a certain time or you can’t eat certain foods, you calorie intake and burn is what matters for weight loss throughout the week. I eat 2300 cals a day, step an average of 15000 steps and eat whatever food I like whatever time of the day and I have lost 5 stone. I choose to eat more nutrient dense food as I don’t want my health to suffer but even if I chose McDonald’s everyday as long as I burn more than I eat I lose weight and it is the same with everyone. Calorie deficit = fat loss no matter when or what you eat5
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gillian, most people who do IF understand it isnt an alternative for calorie deficit and you still have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight
I dont do IF - but it clearly works as an eating style for some people - eating regular throughout the day is not the only logical way to lose weight.
It might be the eating style that suits you (and me) - but we are not everyone, and something isnt stupid just because we don't do it ourselves.8 -
gillianboreland83 wrote: »IF is just stupid in my opinion. Weight loss is solely down to calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, when you eat it, as long as you are in a calorie deficit the weight comes off. You end up in binges by starving yourself and hence puts you in surplus of calories. A controlled calorie diet eating regular to help your body function throughout the day is the only logical way to lose weight and keep it that way. No food is good or bad just some food is nutrient dense and some isn’t. It is bull that you can’t eat after a certain time or you can’t eat certain foods, you calorie intake and burn is what matters for weight loss throughout the week. I eat 2300 cals a day, step an average of 15000 steps and eat whatever food I like whatever time of the day and I have lost 5 stone. I choose to eat more nutrient dense food as I don’t want my health to suffer but even if I chose McDonald’s everyday as long as I burn more than I eat I lose weight and it is the same with everyone. Calorie deficit = fat loss no matter when or what you eat
Literally no one I know who does IF assumes that they don't need to maintain a calorie deficit to lose weight.
But IF was prescribed to me by a top neurologist and the benefits have been fantastic. Most of us who do IF actually binge less, have less hunger over all, and find that our energy levels are much better.
It's not for everyone, and you don't have to do it and you don't have to like it, but it's not stupid for those of who for whom it is hugely beneficial. Especially for those of us with medical conditions that substantially benefit.
I don't have any weight left to lose and I still do IF and will probably eat this way forever because I far, far prefer it.
I ate 3 meals and snacks yesterday because of a special occasion and company over, and I went to bed whining to my spouse about how much I hate eating all day. Also, ironically, eating multiple meals makes me much, much more hungry and more likely to binge. Late last night I was eating bagels and salmon because the hunger from eating all day was overwhelming and I was getting hangry craving refined carbs and fat.
I don't get that when I do IF.3 -
If skipping breakfast counts as IF, then it is making my summer a bit easier to stay in calorie goal. On days I have just coffee in the am, I have more calories for afternoon and evening when we're active and with other people. I am a teacher, so I sleep in a bit in the summer and have coffee mid morning. I am right now, at 12:00 eating my first food for the day. I will not skip breakfast during the school year. I need energy for teaching!0
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I don't think fasting is necessary or healthy. There's a reason why religions that have fasting periods tell kids, the elderly, and people with serious health conditions not to do it. One of my relatives was fasting for Ramadan (which is essentially intermittent fasting) and over the course of that month had a long-term health issue seriously worsen and turn almost fatal. They were in the hospital for almost a year recovering and almost died.
I hate when health advice is based on "what people did in ancient times." People in ancient times fasted usually because they didn't have enough food. The life expectancy was also 35 back then and ancient humans lived at constant risk of death from iron-deficiency anemia. We shouldn't base what we do now on what people did with the limited resources and options available in ancient times.
Also I have PCOS (which increases the risk of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes). I read that the recommendation from dieticians is to eat multiple small meals a day. I used to eat two large meals a day, sometimes within an 8-hour period (not on purpose, it just turned out that way due to bad scheduling). I switched to 3 meals and 1 to 3 snacks and I'm also eating a lower glycemic diet (mostly reducing white flour and processed sugar, although I didn't give up either entirely). It was an adjustment at first and I did feel more hungry at first because I was used to eating 900 to 1000 calories per meal. But it's been about six weeks now. My acne is pretty much gone. My latest period is way lighter and less painful. Usually during that time of the month I can hardly even get out of bed, but now I have normal levels of energy. My energy levels are much better in general and so is my mood. I'm not overweight so my goals are just related to improving my PCOS symptoms and it has exceeded my expectations so far.
I also find this diet to be very doable and not overly restrictive like a keto or low-carb diet might be. The more restrictions you have on your diet, the less sustainable it will be over the long term.
There was a time years ago when I lost 10 pounds dieting and back then I also switched to 3 meals and 3 snacks, because I was constantly hungry otherwise. I lost the weight easily and had no problem with hunger after I started eating snacks between meals.
And I would never skip breakfast. I get into a bad mood and even feel dizzy if I go too long without eating when I wake up. That's always been the case since I was a kid. Breakfast is usually my largest and highest-fat meal of the day.3 -
To me, food is kind of addictive. Once I take a bite, it takes a lot of effort not to over eat. For me, it is easier to follow a modified version alternate day fasting were I don't eat at all Mon, Wed and Friday. The other days I avoid overeating by counting calories although I allocate a comfortable amount (2300 to 2500). This routine allowed me to lose so far 30 lbs and most importantly, heal my fatty liver. I workout on the eating days and rest on the fasting days.0
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I'm glad that works for you.
Whether it is the reason for improved fatty liver, who knows. Other things like change in foods you eat, weight loss itself etc could be the main reason.
Most people wouldn't have the option of resting 3 days a week so there is that too. ( or do you just mean not exercising those days, rather than all day resting? )
Wouldn't work for me, I need to eat every day.1 -
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I don't think I could ever thrive on 9,000 - 10,000 calories a week if I did any exercise at all. I would need at least 50% more. I also think I would just plain be unhappy if I didn't eat three days a week. If it's working for you - good luck.
I'm curious how you manage to avoid overeating on the days that you do eat if your main problem is that once you start you can't stop. If you can avoid overeating on the days you do eat, why can't you do it EVERY day? It seems you could take the skills you learn from the days you DO eat, find a good calorie goal, and then eat something close to that amount every day with a bigger goal to hit a weekly calorie target.
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