Coronavirus prep
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I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.
I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.
There are treatments that can help keep you out of the hospital, but you need to take them early. Will the urgent care facility be able to give them to you? It may be why the nurse suggested the ER.2 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I had the first round plus two boosters, and I haven't suffered from COVID at all because I haven't gotten COVID. No one I know who was fully vaccinated has had more than one infection (most have had none), none of them have ended up in the hospital as an in-patient (one who has a very serious underlying health condition was sent to a hospital for an out-patient course of antibody treatment, and was the only fully vaccinated person I knew to really feel sick from it for more than a day or two), and none of them have died. There is a school of thought that being vaccinated and boosted are doing way more good than harm.15 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.
I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.
There are treatments that can help keep you out of the hospital, but you need to take them early. Will the urgent care facility be able to give them to you? It may be why the nurse suggested the ER.
Urgent Care did not seem all that concerned. Said to get rest and fluids, see how things go. They said sometimes symptoms change day to day with the newest variant. I am especially annoyed by hiccups, which was unexpected and makes it hard to sleep8 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
That may be your n=1 experience and your experience of everyone you know who was jabbed. Or your confirmation bias perception of same.
But it is certainly not representative of what happens at population level.
Proportionately FAR more unvaccinated people have had worse Covid outcomes.
Probably why health advisors around the world support booster vaccinations, especially for at risk persons.
Could you provide source of your school of thought saying otherwise please.,13 -
I have seen a huge lack of concern of Covid being a thing anymore. Even I've slacked off from wearing a mask in the stores, or anywhere else.
But it's still very much around. My nephew and his family travelled several states away, by car, to attend a family event. Out of 10 people, 7 experienced Covid symptoms or tested positive. And it's just such a strange phenomenon, out of the 4 people in his immediate family, all of them had some symptoms(obviously some worse than others) but as far as testing positive or negative throughout that period, it seemed very sporadic. No wonder there is still so much confusion 'out there'.
Someone that my sister works with, brought her dd to work one day because her dd was sick and she had no one to care for her. I asked if she was tested and my sister said no, the mom said it was just a cold. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't.
On one hand, I thought it irresponsible to bring a sick child to work where there are many people and some of them elderly. But OTOH, would testing be accurate anyways?? 6 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.5 -
I have seen a huge lack of concern of Covid being a thing anymore. Even I've slacked off from wearing a mask in the stores, or anywhere else. But it's still very much around. My nephew and his family travelled several states away, by car, to attend a family event. Out of 10 people, 7 experienced Covid symptoms or tested positive. And it's just such a strange phenomenon, out of the 4 people in his immediate family, all of them had some symptoms(obviously some worse than others) but as far as testing positive or negative throughout that period, it seemed very sporadic. No wonder there is still so much confusion 'out there'.
Someone that my sister works with, brought her dd to work one day because her dd was sick and she had no one to care for her. I asked if she was tested and my sister said no, the mom said it was just a cold. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. On one hand, I thought it irresponsible to bring a sick child to work where there are many people and some of them elderly. But OTOH, would testing be accurate anyways??
I stopped wearing masks for the most part everywhere. Yes it's still a concern but people are tired.3 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.
So much hearsay... none of it science. :noway:16 -
I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right!
as per previous poster, I strongly suspect confirmation bias at play here - probably on part of both your friend and yourself.
The friend wasn't a medical professional or anything, was just overhearing things on his scanner? (is that legal? it wouldnt be here in Aus)
Not really evidence.
If however you have actual evidence (official health stats, same info from credible source etc) verifying this, please do post them
Like I asked previous poster for source of her 'school of thought' that boosters are harmful.
None has yet been supplied.
People on MFP generally like evidence and science - so would be willing to read and consider such evidence fairly.
My own anecdotal experience as someone who runs Covid clinics and works in a medical centre - no noticeable increase in patients having heart attacks or strokes and people having boosters not reporting any thing other than mild side effects from previous doses.
However don't take my anecdotal experience as objective fact.
Here is link from Australian Bureau of statistics.https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release
It is quite detailed but one can scroll down to each cause of death and graph comparisons by year- doesnt seem any evidence of increased coronary event or stroke deaths
It could be different in your country - but I doubt it.
Willing to see evidence saying otherwise though.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply peagree with the constant stream of vaccination for COVID either and plenty who refuse to be vaccinated themselves. It's ridiculous to just shrug your shoulders and say 'hearsay' ...DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision andChef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.
So much hearsay... none of it science. :noway:
In the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/death. They don't compensate on the basis of hearsay or confirmation bias0 -
I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
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I am pretty scared right now. My mom has been in congestive heart failure for a week. HR ~30bpm kind of thing. Feels like she can't get a full breath. Probably needs pacemaker (and wants it) but need 2 weeks worth of data to know how to implant/position it. (Sounds like AF is a simpler fix but that's not her problem.)
Anywhoo, Friday before last stepdad ubered her to a cardiology appt because HE felt unwell. As I was driving to hospital to pick them up, HE went to the ER with kidney stones. Several nightmare situations ensued (5 hr ER wait, concierge doctor no help at all-not even a return phone call, both of them fell down stairs in their home, had to call emergency services to get her up). Mercifully, he is better now. His adult kids are great people and tag teamed coming in town to help them out (I'm the only one local).
But ...as you probably guessed...now both octogenarians have Covid. The 2nd sib was as careful as one could be, testing before leaving home and daily thereafter but yesterday tested positive and promptly left. Now he wishes he stayed to isolate with them but his instinct was to get away fast. Their doc ordered monoclonal antibody infusions (maybe past the window for Paxlovid?) which I home comes soon. Waiting to be scheduled. Waiting. I've learned that when your next step is waiting for a med provider to call, that is not a great place to be. Never got that call from the urologist, either.
Technically I'm a close contact and not sure when to count day 0 but counting it as Sunday so will test Fri. We expect our vaccines to do their job. My only symptom is high anxiety about the grands.
tl;dr: covid scary for old people with lots o pre-existing stuff.20 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-poster/fact-check-poster-about-uk-vaccine-compensation-scheme-is-not-from-uk-government-idUSL2N2X227012 -
We have another big wave due to tourism season. I had a house full of company but I left. 😂 I told them not to tear the house apart and left them to it. The uzhe, I didn't invite them. When you live here, people use you for a B & B. Motel rooms are outrageous. So glad I left. They've all got the variant. Some were headed for Alaska but had to turn around and go home, 2332 miles. Some ended up in the ER. They had to travel back home in the scorching heat and they were sick.
I'm getting my 2nd booster this week, for a total of 4. I've not had it and I don't want it. If there's another vax, #5....I'll take it. I'll take all of them. My neighbors down the way are long haulers. She lost her hearing, has vertigo and they don't know if the hearing will come back. The husband says he's never felt like his former self and he's on oxygen now. Both ended up in the ICU for 2-3 weeks, 7 months ago. Neither of them had the vax and they still won't. They've both had it 3 times now. That is all.16 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.12 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-poster/fact-check-poster-about-uk-vaccine-compensation-scheme-is-not-from-uk-government-idUSL2N2X2270
Not really sure why you've posted this link....?0 -
@cwolfman13 My community opted for the Pfizer vax. None of my kin who've taken it had a single side effect. I had big tears running down my face with the first one because I was so grateful. It was relief. I still feel the same way. Grateful and thankful. I believe in good medicine. We've had some big blowouts in my family over the vax. I make all of my own decisions. We need to quit having family reunions. There's always a blowout. We just can't have nice things, act like a bunch of wild Indians. 😍9
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I am pretty scared right now. My mom has been in congestive heart failure for a week. HR ~30bpm kind of thing. Feels like she can't get a full breath. Probably needs pacemaker (and wants it) but need 2 weeks worth of data to know how to implant/position it. (Sounds like AF is a simpler fix but that's not her problem.)
Anywhoo, Friday before last stepdad ubered her to a cardiology appt because HE felt unwell. As I was driving to hospital to pick them up, HE went to the ER with kidney stones. Several nightmare situations ensued (5 hr ER wait, concierge doctor no help at all-not even a return phone call, both of them fell down stairs in their home, had to call emergency services to get her up). Mercifully, he is better now. His adult kids are great people and tag teamed coming in town to help them out (I'm the only one local).
But ...as you probably guessed...now both octogenarians have Covid. The 2nd sib was as careful as one could be, testing before leaving home and daily thereafter but yesterday tested positive and promptly left. Now he wishes he stayed to isolate with them but his instinct was to get away fast. Their doc ordered monoclonal antibody infusions (maybe past the window for Paxlovid?) which I home comes soon. Waiting to be scheduled. Waiting. I've learned that when your next step is waiting for a med provider to call, that is not a great place to be. Never got that call from the urologist, either.
Technically I'm a close contact and not sure when to count day 0 but counting it as Sunday so will test Fri. We expect our vaccines to do their job. My only symptom is high anxiety about the grands.
tl;dr: covid scary for old people with lots o pre-existing stuff.
I can understand old or physically frail people getting the vaccine. I don't understand the logic behind relatively young healthy people taking endless boosters for something their immune system can most likely fight off. The fact is, the vaccine does not stop you contracting COVID and it doesn't stop you spreading it but it can cause adverse effects...so I guess you have to use your best judgement about which risk you want to take. Seems pointless to me unless you have multiple health problems and are at extreme risk.5 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-poster/fact-check-poster-about-uk-vaccine-compensation-scheme-is-not-from-uk-government-idUSL2N2X2270
Not really sure why you've posted this link....?cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Because that.7 -
Hiawassee88 wrote: »@cwolfman13 My community opted for the Pfizer vax. None of my kin who've taken it had a single side effect. I had big tears running down my face with the first one because I was so grateful. It was relief. I still feel the same way. Grateful and thankful. I believe in good medicine. We've had some big blowouts in my family over the vax. I make all of my own decisions.
I'm in the US...Just about everyone I know had Pfizer except my mom had Moderna. Most of the issues I've heard of have been with AstraZeneca which to my knowledge was not distributed in the US. My understanding from my UK relatives is that there have been 1200 people who've requested payment for the government for vaccine issues out of around 44M doses.5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-poster/fact-check-poster-about-uk-vaccine-compensation-scheme-is-not-from-uk-government-idUSL2N2X2270
Not really sure why you've posted this link....?cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Because that.
Oh I see..
From what I read it looked like a warning against phoney government websites claiming to be offering vaccine compensation....? Didn't get why you were sharing that with me, I'm sure you were trying to make a point, I just don't know what it was. Did you think that's where I was getting my information from?
People are claiming for vaccine injury in the UK and according to the British Medical Journal, 1681 people have claimed (as of may 20th) so far. It's certainly not everyone, not most, not even half or a quarter but it's way more than a one off or a freak rare occurrence. And it's enough to give some of us pause for thought and to ask if this so called vaccine is something we really need to have and to keep having. As I've said before, it doesn't stop you becoming ill or spreading it so I'm happy to go with my immune system on this one.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Not ending up in ICU is not an indicator of no problem though is it? There are people living with long term issues, people who ended up in the ER and then sent home ... Not in intensive care doesn't mean no harm done, just means you didn't end up in intensive care4 -
@cwolfman13 The medical community in my town were in consensus that the P is the cadillac of all vax. That's what the Chief told me. I'll see him again this week. I believed him and I still believe it. I have family members who are using herbal remedies on their feet and we all know how that turned out. You can sage around until the cows come home but line me up for another vax.
There are some in town wondering if we need the monkeypox vax, too. I guess we'll burn that bridge when we get to it. Uh oh, I've got a sager on the phone now. Their ears must be burning.
Our newspaper had to change the layout of the obit column because so many have died in my town from it. It keeps you from dying, young and old. I'm not willing to die for it. I'm not going out like that.6 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Not ending up in ICU is not an indicator of no problem though is it? There are people living with long term issues, people who ended up in the ER and then sent home ... Not in intensive care doesn't mean no harm done, just means you didn't end up in intensive care
1200 out of around 45M people in the UK who received the vax are applying for the payment...that's a small number. You sound exactly like all of the social media antivaxxers out there.13 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Not ending up in ICU is not an indicator of no problem though is it? There are people living with long term issues, people who ended up in the ER and then sent home ... Not in intensive care doesn't mean no harm done, just means you didn't end up in intensive care
1200 out of around 45M people in the UK who received the vax are applying for the payment...that's a small number. You sound exactly like all of the social media antivaxxers out there.
I'm not an anti vaxxer, I've had all my childhood vaccinations; I was also vaccinated for Hepatitis B as an adult when I started my training as a Midwife some years ago. My children have had all their important childhood vaccinations. I'm not against vaccinations that are safe, that are necessary and that work....
We have not been vaccinated for COVID because we don't need to be. I weighed up the information, used my power of critical thinking and decided against it. I'm not alone, many people did and decided the same thing, including many health professionals. I don't actually think choosing not to have a particular medical procedure makes you an anti vaxxer....
Being mindlessly against all vaccinations makes you an anti vaxxer, deciding not to have one vaccine based on real concerns doesn't.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
Just to say, in the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/deaths ...I don't think they compensate on the basis of hearsay
Very few and rare in reality. There is a lot of misinformation about this on social media...the reality is that these complications can be genuine, but are exceedingly rare. Anecdotally my brother works in the ICU in a hospital here...he's treated exactly ZERO people with any major complications from the vaccine.
Not ending up in ICU is not an indicator of no problem though is it? There are people living with long term issues, people who ended up in the ER and then sent home ... Not in intensive care doesn't mean no harm done, just means you didn't end up in intensive care
1200 out of around 45M people in the UK who received the vax are applying for the payment...that's a small number. You sound exactly like all of the social media antivaxxers out there.
Exactly this. 💯9 -
Natural immunity to covid weakens and wanes even if you've had it 2 or 3 times. This thing is mean and nasty. I've heard all of the conspiracy theories. I don't care if I'm being tracked. I'm out here hugging trees and looking at the wildflowers. I'm singing my little songs and dancing.
I have no concerns about the vax. None. All of mine who've had it are alive and I want them to keep on living waaay into the future. Use your discernment and check the science. The numbers don't lie. Anyone who knows me knows I can discern things and I feel great about it.10 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I don't know why my comments aren't posting...
(snip)
FWIW, I think it's because you typed above the closing /quote tag of the message you replied to, or some other edit made the tags not pair up right.
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