Less Alcohol ~ DECEMBER 2022 ~ One Day At A Time
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Hello, I used to have a sobriety thread on here. (Sobriety Matters it was called). I posted something that I later regretted very much. I spoke about my personal experience with moderate drinking and it was very insensitive as it mirrored people's efforts on this thread and I realise I caused offence. I still deeply regret that, all I can say is that I was in a very dark place with my mental health. I just wanted to apologise again wholeheartedly. I did feel ashamed of what I posted. I miss posting on here and I am sorry to have let people down who had supported me on my sober journey. Just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best for 2023. I don't expect anyone wants to hear from me, but I just wanted to apologise again. I will get outa here now. Thanks for listening.
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I'm tired, as expected, although my head's in a better place this morning.@mfowler883 I am sorry for your loss, this time of year can make these losses stand out. I assume you’re on Reddit?
Thanks. Oddly, I don't find that particular times or seasons have much influence on when I get stuck in my head. Places, sometimes. Music, though, is particularly powerful - a lot of times I hear something and it's like stepping through a wormhole straight back into a time and place that is associated with that particular song.
Reddit, nope. I occasionally browse a thread there when looking for some specific info but generally don't much care for reddit. I used to be a lot more active online, but I've more or less ditched all the social media and forums. This thread is about the only place I'm active anymore, because it ties directly to my desire to drink less at this point in my life.Oh @mfowler883 my heart aches for you. Your friend Gary sounds like an amazing person. Plus a lot of fun to be around! You wrote such a beautiful tribute to him. Grief is a hell of a thing. You’re minding your own business, and then it hits you like a train and takes your breath away. It’s not a linear journey, at all. We never stop loving those that have gone. He is still with you. Hugs.
Thanks. He was my best friend, and at times my only friend. It's hard to believe he's been gone for 27 years...half a lifetime ago. A lot of the time, I'm okay, I can think of him and smile. I can hear a song and think, man G would've loved this. I can think of a great story and laugh.
One summer afternoon, perhaps '92 or '93, Gary and I were standing around in the driveway just killing time. He had an '84 Buick Regal four door, and it was his baby, his pride and joy. It was, however, starting to show it's age - the paint was weathered, fading and dull. I ran to the garage and returned with a tin of Mother's and a couple of rags, and I polished a spot perhaps a foot across, right smack in the middle of his trunk lid. It was amazing, the difference was night and day, the paint looked better than new. You could see your face in it, the shine was so clear and deep!
Next time I saw him, he was furious, I'll never forget it. He just went on this rant, "You A-HOLE! I had to polish my WHOLE CAR! I did it by hand, it took HOURS!!!"
God I miss him...
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Hi @Holidays22. I read this thread most days and I was following yours as well although my focus is on reducing alcohol rather than eliminating it. I think there are some people on this thread who are AF, though most seem to be focused on reduction. I got a lot out of your thread and am sorry you felt you needed to take it down. I hope you are doing better now.6
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Holidays22 wrote: »Hello, I used to have a sobriety thread on here. (Sobriety Matters it was called). I posted something that I later regretted very much. I spoke about my personal experience with moderate drinking and it was very insensitive as it mirrored people's efforts on this thread and I realise I caused offence. I still deeply regret that, all I can say is that I was in a very dark place with my mental health. I just wanted to apologise again wholeheartedly. I did feel ashamed of what I posted. I miss posting on here and I am sorry to have let people down who had supported me on my sober journey. Just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best for 2023. I don't expect anyone wants to hear from me, but I just wanted to apologise again. I will get outa here now. Thanks for listening.
@bein2today / @Holidays22 I was on the road, moving and traveling when this occurred and did not see what you had posted and did not see a retaliation post towards yours.
I will empathize this to everyone that comes to this thread to read or post.
WE are about drinking LESS. It means something different to each individual.
There are times we all( myself included) get very involved in our own journey to drink LESS and may project an overwhelming excitement for the goals and strategies that it takes to meet out own personal expectations.
WE are all human, things get said and misinterpreted especially with having to type them and not hear the tone in a voice.
I welcome you back to our group, you have been a part of us for years off and on. What ever happened was in the past, and is just that, IN THE PAST.
Thank you for your post, ❤
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Happy birthday month!
I think of you sometimes when my schedule wants me to be AF during the work week. You have been so good about that!4 -
Holidays22 wrote: »Hello, I used to have a sobriety thread on here. (Sobriety Matters it was called). I posted something that I later regretted very much. I spoke about my personal experience with moderate drinking and it was very insensitive as it mirrored people's efforts on this thread and I realise I caused offence. I still deeply regret that, all I can say is that I was in a very dark place with my mental health. I just wanted to apologise again wholeheartedly. I did feel ashamed of what I posted. I miss posting on here and I am sorry to have let people down who had supported me on my sober journey. Just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best for 2023. I don't expect anyone wants to hear from me, but I just wanted to apologise again. I will get outa here now. Thanks for listening.
I don't know the whole story here. I think there's a bit of a difference in mindset and in what is appropriate when comparing sobriety with moderation. Each of us is on our own journey, we don't even always know what the destination is, sometimes we're just putting one foot in front of the other, going through the motions and trying to figure it out. Sometimes we say and do things that come off in unintended ways, sometimes we offend people, sometimes we let our demons drive us to say and do things that are not okay. It's not the end of the world, there is usually room to make amends in the aftermath.
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I am Dawn, I live in SE BC Canada
My primary motivation for drinking less is weight loss.
I throw up if I have more than 3 drinks, so moderation on drink days is rarely an issue for me lol.
My recurring goal is 16-20 AF days per month. I squeaked to 16 last month.
I like to do this diary style to keep track.
Wednesday December 14 - AF - I was really craving a drink last night after work, but figured that I had to hang tough for a couple of more days. First Wednesday public skating at a local arena during my break, they finally opened back up. I walk there from work and bring my skates into work so that they are not too cold to put on my feet. Looking forward to doing that every Wednesday between my split shift : - )
Rolling total - 9AF day out of 14 days6 -
@Holidays22 You cannot imagine how happy I am to see you. Everyone's journey is their own and I am sure no one was offended that much. We are all grown ups here. I hope you keep posting. I wish you a very Merry Christmas!
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Holidays22 wrote: »Hello, I used to have a sobriety thread on here. (Sobriety Matters it was called). I posted something that I later regretted very much. I spoke about my personal experience with moderate drinking and it was very insensitive as it mirrored people's efforts on this thread and I realise I caused offence. I still deeply regret that, all I can say is that I was in a very dark place with my mental health. I just wanted to apologise again wholeheartedly. I did feel ashamed of what I posted. I miss posting on here and I am sorry to have let people down who had supported me on my sober journey. Just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best for 2023. I don't expect anyone wants to hear from me, but I just wanted to apologise again. I will get outa here now. Thanks for listening.
I didn't read what you posted that you felt was offensive. I think it's lovely that you apologize but I don't think you really needed to, because there was no ill intent to what you posted (I assume.). I am very happy you are ok though. We were worried about you and missed you!5 -
I am currently living the "less alcohol" life. Cutting down a lot but not eliminating enough to make me feel healthy every morning. I do notice that after a few drinks, my Fitbit shows my heart rate during the night is all above resting. When I don't drink in the evening, my night's heart rate is under the resting heart rate. This is significant to me but not enough deterrent to stop drinking. Sigh.
I do read all your posts and love that you have a wonderful, close group.6 -
AF today. Didn't hit my step goal, or get in a full workout, but I got a ridiculous number of stairs in and blasted out some squats and sit-ups at the end of the day. Calories ended up pretty close to my goal and I'm losing again.
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RubyRed427 wrote: »I am currently living the "less alcohol" life. Cutting down a lot but not eliminating enough to make me feel healthy every morning. I do notice that after a few drinks, my Fitbit shows my heart rate during the night is all above resting. When I don't drink in the evening, my night's heart rate is under the resting heart rate. This is significant to me but not enough deterrent to stop drinking. Sigh.
I do read all your posts and love that you have a wonderful, close group.
Ruby good to see your post.
QUESTION:
So is it more important for you to be 100% sober? Or can you be happy with yourself having drinks on a regular basis, but without blackouts?
It has been years for some of us to get where we want to be in drinking LESS.
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Day 16 AF.
Yesterday was not a good day. The normally sweet natured toddler I nanny for acted monstrous all day and only took a 1 hour nap, when it is usually at least 2. By 2 pm I was sure I was hitting the beer and wine store on the way home. I texted a friend who knows I am doing this month and she gently reminded me, "You will regret it." I did not end up buying any after all but I did feel sorry for myself for a while. I went to bed early, got up at 4 am and am now baking some bread in my bread machine. Warm bread makes everything better.
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Hello all! I’m still Amanda, I’m from Michigan. I am still a crazy cat lady and work for a veterinarian. This will be my sixth month with this group and it has helped me cut back on my drinking so much! I am not ready to say I am 100% sober but last month I had 30 days alcohol free 😃
12/1-12/7: 7 out of 7 AF
12/8-12/14: 7 out of 7 AF
Rolling total: 14 out of 14 AF
12/15: AF
My dad always buys a giant bottle of Baileys over the holidays and we put it in coffee and top it with whipped cream (if you want) or pour it over ice. I just perused the interwebz a bit and I don’t see AF Baileys. You can make it but it looks like such a pain in my behind I think I’ll just skip it this year or just have one.
So proud of everyone for their AF streaks, especially during this season that can be tricky.4 -
@Holidays22 Its so good to see you back! I lurked your thread all through summer and most of fall. I was so disappointed when it was gone. I was so worried for you. Everyone on that thread was really trying and offered great input, I admired all of you. It was honest and insightful. I lurked because I was not sober and found this thread to be more fitting for me at the time.
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@mfowler883 Sorry I misjudged you, you struck me as a Reddit user, I should not have judged at all!
@dawnbgethealthy You crazy woman on your skates! Good job on the AF front!3 -
RubyRed427 wrote: »I am currently living the "less alcohol" life. Cutting down a lot but not eliminating enough to make me feel healthy every morning. I do notice that after a few drinks, my Fitbit shows my heart rate during the night is all above resting. When I don't drink in the evening, my night's heart rate is under the resting heart rate. This is significant to me but not enough deterrent to stop drinking. Sigh.
I do read all your posts and love that you have a wonderful, close group.
Ruby good to see your post.
QUESTION:
So is it more important for you to be 100% sober? Or can you be happy with yourself having drinks on a regular basis, but without blackouts?
It has been years for some of us to get where we want to be in drinking LESS.
I think I can be happy with myself if I drink once in awhile. But the nagging voice in my mind is quite hard on me. It says You really should abstain. But yes, I am doing much better this past year... no blackouts, no getting sick and a few bad hangovers but overall much better managing this.
Thanks Miss May for all you do for us. You encourage, you support and you comment with such a caring heart.5 -
@RubyRed427 here is life-
Some of us feel that if we won a giant lottery all our troubles would be gone, in honesty that is rarely true.
Some of us have always wanted to weigh below a particular number on the scale, when we gain half a pound we feel defeated.
So on and so on.
Being honest with yourself first, that possibly being dry for the rest of your life is TO HIGH A GOAL TO REACH. May get rid of that "ugh" at the end of your sentences.
Remember ONE DAY AT A TIME for goals is easier than trying to control an entire lifetime.
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This group really helps me hold myself accountable, plus everyone is absolutely great. My monthly goal is 16-19 AF days (3A days max weekly) for weight loss and overall health. I post in the mornings about the previous day.
12/12: Drinks (2.5)
12/13: AF
12/14: Drinks (2.5)
12/15: Drinks (2) - We tried out an upscale Mexican restaurant last night. They had an amazing musician there. Amazing! I stuck to the planned 2 drinks (yay!). I didn't plan for nor track dinner and got into late night snacking. Lesson learned: Track every meal until goal is met (except I'm not going to worry about Christmas). I've done my 3 A days this week. I think I'll hold off until next Thursday.
Rolling Total: 7 AF Days out of 15
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@dawnbgethealthy is in her happy zone with ice skating. Have fun. Love how you are keeping them warm by not leaving them in your car.3
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SunnyDays930 wrote: »Day 16 AF.
Yesterday was not a good day. The normally sweet natured toddler I nanny for acted monstrous all day and only took a 1 hour nap, when it is usually at least 2. By 2 pm I was sure I was hitting the beer and wine store on the way home. I texted a friend who knows I am doing this month and she gently reminded me, "You will regret it." I did not end up buying any after all but I did feel sorry for myself for a while. I went to bed early, got up at 4 am and am now baking some bread in my bread machine. Warm bread makes everything better.
@SunnyDays930 I'm so sorry you had a hard day but WOW! Good job making it through it the way you did! Your story is very inspirational. I'm also imagining the aroma in your house in the wee hours of the morning! What a great way to manage the inability to sleep. Yummy!4 -
@mfowler883 your post about the loss of your dear friend G is moving.
Memories of loved ones no longer with us can be both glorious and painful at the same time.
Personal experience with the loss of my first husband, then my brother taking his own life, all within a year.
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@SunnyDays930 I am pretty sure I smelled bread baking in my sleep. What kind did you bake now that we are all drooling?
Good save in the end on the rough day you encountered.
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My December accountability at this half way point.
1 - A day
14 - AF days
So much better than last month at this time. The transition with moving is leveling out. I am not trying to taste my way through each new establishment we venture into.
I am finding my go to spots that offer up Heinekin00 or other NA cocktails. I even had a frozen margarita made at an authentic Mexican place without booze and it was awesome!(pictured above)
A treat I am doing for both husband and myself is a three month join at OsteoStrong for once a week sessions.
This is our look forward to event together that does not involve alcohol. Such a huge step for my husband who would always base everything in life around drinking.
If I get any points in life for steering him in the right direction and reassuring him happiness does not come in bottle form, I will take those points gratefully.6 -
Good day to everyone
I took some time to catch up on the posts, sheesh miss a day and the world has flown by!
The Building has SOLD, we signed the paperwork yesterday morning. So DH is concentrating on finishing cleaning his stuff out of the building. And on a funny note....this will require a bit of back story.
Because my DH business was refinishing fine furniture, he had a spray booth that vented through the roof which had a cap like looking piece of metal on the top of the stack. All these things had to be removed and the hole sealed. All good. So a lot of items including the old stack was in the back of the building for DH to haul tot he dump. As we were returning from the building signing I was taking we took a few back streets tot he building and low and behold.....there was the stack horded with a homeless mess on a side street...hope they enjoy it.
On the Alcohol front, I am not doing that great saying AF but not ever over doing, not ever sick or black outs and always only having 2 drink limit. So that is a positive for me.
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@MissMay That drink looks divine! Yum yum! ANd that view is amazing. I wish I were at at beach. It's chilly here in the Mid Atlantic area.
I made honey wheat bread in the bread machine this morning. it was delicious. The way the house smelled is reason enough to buy one. It could not be easier to use. Simply put the ingredients in in the order listed, hit the on button and walk away. Fresh bread 3 hours later.
Today I am feeling mad at myself for choosing December to be dry. I feel like I am missing all the fun. Then I reminded myself WHY; I simply could not wait one more month for a dry-out time. I was putting away at least a bottle of wine a night and was feeling crappy. I do hope I can moderate in January and I am so jealous of those that can have 2 and call it a night. You all are very inspirational! Perhaps I can do better with that in 2023.6 -
@mfowler883 your post about the loss of your dear friend G is moving.
Memories of loved ones no longer with us can be both glorious and painful at the same time.
Personal experience with the loss of my first husband, then my brother taking his own life, all within a year.
Caring thoughts your way.
Thanks, same back to you.
I can't say for sure, but I think that had I not taken the time to sit at my desktop and write here as I did, I may well have gone next door to find something to drink. This group is really helpful for both accountability and support.
I am finding my go to spots that offer up Heinekin00 or other NA cocktails. I even had a frozen margarita made at an authentic Mexican place without booze and it was awesome!(pictured above)
That looks awesome, I hadn't considered NA cocktails - I don't usually order margs as they all pale in comparison to the ones I make at home. Make up a good pitcher alongside some epic homemade guac and a bag of good chips.....okay, going to stop now, not even lunchtime yet and my mouth is watering.
-m@mfowler883 Sorry I misjudged you, you struck me as a Reddit user, I should not have judged at all!
Wait, that was a judgement? I read it as a question. No harm, no foul. Reddit is a strange place, some corners are full of knowledge, other corners are a complete cesspool.RockinRobyn672 wrote: »12/15: Drinks (2) - We tried out an upscale Mexican restaurant last night. They had an amazing musician there. Amazing! I stuck to the planned 2 drinks (yay!). I didn't plan for nor track dinner and got into late night snacking. Lesson learned: Track every meal until goal is met (except I'm not going to worry about Christmas). I've done my 3 A days this week. I think I'll hold off until next Thursday.
I get to where I think I've formed all the habits and I can just go through my day eating the new normal and everything is cool, then I don't track for whatever reason and discover that I'm way off base. I'm closer than I've ever been but it takes time to really form new habits. It's easy to let myself slip.
Yes, that also applies to drinking. If I wasn't keeping track, I would almost certainly drink more. Probably a lot more.
As I get into better and better physical condition, I'm starting to think about getting into something like Krav Maga. I think it would be a cool way to continue to push my body, as well as being a good skillset to add.
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I am Dawn, I live in SE BC Canada
My primary motivation for drinking less is weight loss.
I throw up if I have more than 3 drinks, so moderation on drink days is rarely an issue for me lol.
My recurring goal is 16-20 AF days per month. I squeaked to 16 last month.
I like to do this diary style to keep track.
Wednesday December 14 - AF - I was really craving a drink last night after work, but figured that I had to hang tough for a couple of more days. First Wednesday public skating at a local arena during my break, they finally opened back up. I walk there from work and bring my skates into work so that they are not too cold to put on my feet. Looking forward to doing that every Wednesday between my split shift : - )
Thursday December 15 - AF - Planned a long Friday workday with X-Country skiing during my 2 hour afternoon break. Good reason to not have drinks Thursday night. Then woke up very sick this Friday morning. I am not going anywhere, can barely stand up. Flu-ish
Rolling total - 10AF day out of 15 days5 -
December accountability: 6 days AF
Alcohol: 9 days (21 drinks)
Goal: Limit 2 glasses per day; 12-16 AF days per month.
12/15 - 4 wine ; 2 wine + 2 bourbon & Diet Coke - Totally my fault because I’m the one that poured the first bourbon after dinner.
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