Eating too much everyday ( eating to many calories )
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kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
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It’s okay to eat prepackaged foods. They are just more expensive and have added calories to provide taste.0
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springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem
My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes. 1 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
I get that a lot of people enjoy cooking. Heck, I enjoy it if there’s a reason and people to cook for. What frustrates me is the sheer volume of advice that you MUST cook at home from scratch in order to control calories and lose weight. I think for a lot of people it’s a barrier to entry. The advice to go slow and make small changes flies in the face of the advice that weight loss can’t happen unless you cook from scratch. I think that the perspective that ANY food can be part of a healthy diet, even if it comes from a freezer bag or a takeout box is completely woefully understated.
While I'm a cooking kind of person, I do agree that there's a certain amount of "must cook from scratch" rhetoric here. (The "sheer volume" phrasing implies a greater prevalence than I feel, but generally any of us, me included, notice and have more feels about posts that critique our own preferences, giving those views more psychological throw-weight. I agree that "must cook own food at home" is not rare.)
To me, "cooking from scratch is essential" is one of the themes that can come across as quasi-religious absolutes from some posters, IME often the newly converted. Some other ones - of varying frequency - are "no ultra-processed foods", "nothing with a label", "everyone would be better off cutting out all dairy (or gluten)", "zero added sugar", "nothing white", . . . etc. Absolutist stuff.
Anyone wants to do those things, swell. But hectoring others that they're key elements of everyone's weight management success? Nah, I don't believe it.
I'm a pretty absolutist advocate for certain things, mainly that calories matter for weight management (but aren't the only issue as a practical matter), that decent-ish overall nutrition (on average over a day or few) is a really good idea, and that most people will feel better and be healthier if they find and regularly do some fun exercise.
I do use some packaged/prepared foods, and I do check ingredients lists for various things that matter to me. I absolutely don't understand it when some implies or occasionally outright states that that food is somehow ineffably but importantly different from the food I'd make at home using exactly the same ingredients. In my world, that's weirdly magical thinking.
It's entirely possible IMO to get reasonable nutrition at reasonable calories using entirely prepared or convenience food, potentially some of which is ultra-processed (protein powder, anyone?), or some of which is so-called junk/fast food. If a person is getting decent nutrition, feeling reasonably sated, and achieving their weight management goals while eating foods they enjoy and find practical/affordable, that's perfect.
When someone says they can't cook, I do feel sad for them. Being able to cook gives some flexibility. I think some people who weren't raised doing it think it's much harder to make basics than it really is.0 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
I've done it when I had a small kitchen so limited storage, but I limited it to baking pans or cast-iron frying pans. When I was using the oven, those could be temporarily parked elsewhere.0 -
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?[/quote]
Some of us don't have enough cupboards, (very small kitchen) and need that space to store things. I only store pans, cookie sheets and racks in mine.0 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
I've done it when I had a small kitchen so limited storage, but I limited it to baking pans or cast-iron frying pans. When I was using the oven, those could be temporarily parked elsewhere.
All my apartments were pretty tiny so I never bought cookware. Because of this I NEVER learned to cook! This was the life hack I needed back then 🤦🏼♀️.3 -
@musicfan68 Makes perfect sense in hindsight.0
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springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!2 -
musicfan68 wrote: »
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
Some of us don't have enough cupboards, (very small kitchen) and need that space to store things. I only store pans, cookie sheets and racks in mine. [/]
I use the bottom drawer thingy for that stuff. The stuff I use more goes in the big part of the oven.0 -
peazoo1325 wrote: »It’s okay to eat prepackaged foods. They are just more expensive and have added calories to provide taste.
Frozen vegetables are frequently cheaper than fresh and are just vegetables—I’m the only one that adds stuff to make it taste okay. Not sure what calories would be added unless you get the sauces versions.0 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!
The turn the convo has taken is so funny to me. I still have some plates and pots and stuff in my dishwasher from yeeeeeeeeeeeeears ago that I just never unloaded because it's rare I use said pots and real plates (I have a couple plastic bowls I use every night) and, for some reason, opened my oven and saw there were baking sheets or something stored in there.
I use a microwave and crockpot (and once a rice cooker) for "cooking". I don' t even know if my oven and stove work!
(I only use the bottom shelves on my cupboards because....height challenged...and the step ladder's not so steady on my kitchen floor and I have balance issues.)1 -
peazoo1325 wrote: »It’s okay to eat prepackaged foods. They are just more expensive and have added calories to provide taste.
Too generalized. Plain frozen veggies/fruits are often cheaper than fresh, depending on type and seasonality. Plain frozen broccoli (say) has the same calories as fresh broccoli, maybe plus or minus a tiny bit as related to water content.
Sure, buying whole pre-created pre-packaged meals can be more expensive than equivalent home-made food . . . but even that isn't always true.
Label reading and price comparison are useful skills during weight/nutrition management.springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!
One of my friends - a stellar and very accomplished athlete and advanced-degree biomechanical engineering scholar just for the record - had her dishwasher racks packed with boxes of malted milk balls, a massive supply of marshmallow peeps, and a few other similar things. Same concept: Useless box in a tiny kitchen, might as well use it.
Oops, that was a digression. Sorry, OP.
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springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!
Touché!
Also, sorry for the hijack OP!0 -
I just saw a podcast from Jessie Inchauspe the author of Glucose Revolution she a biochemist and media calls her the “Suger Goddess”. She said something that really has been working for me. It’s important the order in which we eat food to reduce insulin spikes which causes overeating. So now I eat steam broccoli before all my meals and even is I eat something sugary during the meal the broccoli seams to help me not overeat.1
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nancitafitgirl wrote: »I just saw a podcast from Jessie Inchauspe the author of Glucose Revolution she a biochemist and media calls her the “Suger Goddess”. She said something that really has been working for me. It’s important the order in which we eat food to reduce insulin spikes which causes overeating. So now I eat steam broccoli before all my meals and even is I eat something sugary during the meal the broccoli seams to help me not overeat.
Hey, I'm always a big proponent of vegetables... so if you're adding more to your day, that's awesome.0 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
My mother doesn't believe in drying dishes and has used the oven to dry things, and people have turned on her oven without looking inside and melted plastic lids. In addition to ruining the items, this stinks to high heaven.
I had a friend turn on two ovens a few months apart without looking inside and ruin things. You think he would have started looking after the first time...
I'm the only one in my house who turns on the oven, and do store pots there*, but nothing flammable/meltable.
* this time of year when I don't use the oven. In baking season I'll find new homes for them. It's more convenient having them there ATM.0 -
I heard a great interview with Nadiya Jamir Hussain who did not know what an oven was for until I guess the British equivalent of Home Ec. Her mother used it for storage. She went on to win The Great British Bake Off and bake Elizabeth II's cake as part of her 90th birthday celebrations.
https://www.177milkstreet.com/radio/nadiya-hussain-baked-for-the-queen-of-england-1
"I said, ‘Mrs. Marshall, this cupboard is hot!’ And she said, ‘Oh, you silly girl, that's an oven.'" –Nadiya Hussain3 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!
The turn the convo has taken is so funny to me. I still have some plates and pots and stuff in my dishwasher from yeeeeeeeeeeeeears ago that I just never unloaded because it's rare I use said pots and real plates (I have a couple plastic bowls I use every night) and, for some reason, opened my oven and saw there were baking sheets or something stored in there.
I use a microwave and crockpot (and once a rice cooker) for "cooking". I don' t even know if my oven and stove work!
(I only use the bottom shelves on my cupboards because....height challenged...and the step ladder's not so steady on my kitchen floor and I have balance issues.)
I have six big plates, but kept all 12 of the salad plates out since that’s what I eat off of most often. The other 6 plates and six bowls live in storage. I’m a little past the “service for 12” stage of life 😂1 -
springlering62 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »peazoo1325 wrote: »I believe to be truly successful we need to learn about our eating habits. What we like to eat, how much, and total calories. This is where fitness pal helps. If you are diligent about tracking calories (including weighing) you will learn quickly. From there it becomes choices to find alternate foods that are similar, reduce the quantity, or eliminate the foods altogether.
For most people starting out, this is very hard so it’s common to start buying prepackaged meals with calculated calories. This is okay as the main objective is to change your lifestyle for long term. Eventually you will see that prepackaged meals can be cooked with less calories, fats, sodium or whatever you find more important. This takes time but eventually you will have go to foods you can eat religiously and enjoy.
What happens if the foods you can eat religiously and enjoy are pre-packaged meals?
The results are in, most Americans eat over 70% of their calories from packaged foods because they enjoy them, they're cheap and abundant, and keep almost indefinitely, no refrigeration for almost all of them making them convenient as well. They also have all the nutritional information to make it easier to make smarter choices. Basically UPF have all the characteristics of the ultimate food resource and with consumption of these foods increasing, that's got to tell us, it works. j/k
I honestly can’t see the difference it makes if the food you eat is frozen or you suffer in the kitchen to make it. Frozen grilled chicken is still grilled chicken. Frozen broccoli is still broccoli. Frozen rice is still rice. Scratch cooking is honestly not much more than virtue signaling and not a requirement in the slightest to lose weight and maintain that weight. Or to maintain general good health.
I get that you don't want to cook and I accept that.
I suffer when I CAN'T cook. Can you accept that I love to cook and this has nothing to do with virtue signaling?
This. Plus opening a few tins and packs and mixing it together is a lot different than spending that extra few minutes to get spices and various aromatics right. Sure, I can grab a frozen chicken and veggies and warm them all up, throw a bit of spice and salt over it and eat. But actually cooking these things together gives a totally different taste sensation.
…plus the time it takes to empty the oven and find places for all the stuff I store in there...
Sorry to hijack on a triviality, but this makes my blood run cold.
I had a friend who did this who nearly burned her house down when someone who didn’t know she used her oven as a cupboard turned the oven on to preheat it.
This was the same much loved friend who, as a newlywed, secretly unplugged the stove and convinced her husband for years it didn’t work. 😂
But seriously…,stop using the oven to store stuff.
/PSA
If there's somebody else cooking in my house, there's a much bigger problem My dad actually did smoke out my aunt's house because he didn't know she stored her tupperware there. I learned the lesson and try to limit my storage to Pyrex and serving dishes.
Sorry to ask, hope I’m not overstepping here, but why do people store anything in their oven? I’ve never heard this before! Is this common?
It’s a big empty square box that I might use two or three times a year. Much more useful for storage!
The turn the convo has taken is so funny to me. I still have some plates and pots and stuff in my dishwasher from yeeeeeeeeeeeeears ago that I just never unloaded because it's rare I use said pots and real plates (I have a couple plastic bowls I use every night) and, for some reason, opened my oven and saw there were baking sheets or something stored in there.
I use a microwave and crockpot (and once a rice cooker) for "cooking". I don' t even know if my oven and stove work!
(I only use the bottom shelves on my cupboards because....height challenged...and the step ladder's not so steady on my kitchen floor and I have balance issues.)
I have six big plates, but kept all 12 of the salad plates out since that’s what I eat off of most often. The other 6 plates and six bowls live in storage. I’m a little past the “service for 12” stage of life 😂
I’m obsessed with a particular artist’s plates from Anthro, and didn’t realized I had so many til we downsized. Our kitchen is a fraction the size of the old one. I’ve got stacks of plates all over the house. I need to replace the ones in current rotation because they’re so scratched and chipped but I love them too much. Guess I need to find something to mosaic. But your service for 12 makes me giggle. I could service a Kiwanis luncheon.1 -
nancitafitgirl wrote: »I just saw a podcast from Jessie Inchauspe the author of Glucose Revolution she a biochemist and media calls her the “Suger Goddess”. She said something that really has been working for me. It’s important the order in which we eat food to reduce insulin spikes which causes overeating. So now I eat steam broccoli before all my meals and even is I eat something sugary during the meal the broccoli seams to help me not overeat.
Thanks for posting this. New sources, new approaches, new ideas found on MFP's forums have helped me in the past. I've never heard of Jessie Inchauspe, but a quick google brought up her 5 hacks to reduce insulin spikes, which is of great interest to me. Worth spending some time to research a bit more.
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