Waiving the white flag
cdennis9154
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I give up. I've come to accept that I just hate chicken breast. I'm fine with lean beef. I'll even eat more fish. But I just cannot do chicken breast anymore.
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Then eat chicken thighs.
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No food is mandatory for Fatloss or any other goal as far as body composition1
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I haven't eaten chicken since 1974 (at least not intentionally!) . . . or beef, or fish. I lost weight fine (and yes, I get plenty of protein). No particular food is essential for weight loss.
Sure, chicken is a calorie-efficient protein source. So are quite a few other things. If you like the others better, definitely eat those instead of chicken. Life is too short to eat unenjoyable food, IMO.1 -
The low fat era, which is still alive and well has certainly encouraged a fat phobia mentality and created a big increase in chicken consumption over the last 30 or 40 years with beef down about 35% and chicken up over 300% and mostly skinless chicken breast, so I can empathize for sure. I'm low carb and consume a lot of chicken but it's probably been decades since I bought just chicken breast and I probably never will. Normally I buy whole chicken which does come with skin and other fat deposits. Of course chicken wings and legs are available but generally with skin but you can buy legs and thighs without the skin, maybe try those if the slight increase in fat isn't a deterrent. cheers0
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neanderthin wrote: »The low fat era, which is still alive and well has certainly encouraged a fat phobia mentality and created a big increase in chicken consumption over the last 30 or 40 years with beef down about 35% and chicken up over 300% and mostly skinless chicken breast, so I can empathize for sure. I'm low carb and consume a lot of chicken but it's probably been decades since I bought just chicken breast and I probably never will. Normally I buy whole chicken which does come with skin and other fat deposits. Of course chicken wings and legs are available but generally with skin but you can buy legs and thighs without the skin, maybe try those if the slight increase in fat isn't a deterrent. cheers
I think I'll take that route. I'll buy other chicken parts and stick to beef and fish and shrimp.0 -
I haven't eaten chicken since 1974 (at least not intentionally!) . . . or beef, or fish. I lost weight fine (and yes, I get plenty of protein). No particular food is essential for weight loss.
Sure, chicken is a calorie-efficient protein source. So are quite a few other things. If you like the others better, definitely eat those instead of chicken. Life is too short to eat unenjoyable food, IMO.
So what do you eat ?0 -
cdennis9154 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »The low fat era, which is still alive and well has certainly encouraged a fat phobia mentality and created a big increase in chicken consumption over the last 30 or 40 years with beef down about 35% and chicken up over 300% and mostly skinless chicken breast, so I can empathize for sure. I'm low carb and consume a lot of chicken but it's probably been decades since I bought just chicken breast and I probably never will. Normally I buy whole chicken which does come with skin and other fat deposits. Of course chicken wings and legs are available but generally with skin but you can buy legs and thighs without the skin, maybe try those if the slight increase in fat isn't a deterrent. cheers
I think I'll take that route. I'll buy other chicken parts and stick to beef and fish and shrimp.
I eat a lot of protein and one thing I done for donkeys years is take the skin off whole chicken make a flavourful poaching liquid with herbs and veg and poach (not boil) a whole chicken or 2 then after they're cool enough to handle I take all the meat off the bones and use it in different dishes, some for breakfast in a frittata or omelets, sandwiches, pastas, pizza, casseroles, curries etc and the chicken broth is pretty tasty and makes good soup and I always freeze some broth and use for different sauces. Cheers.
ETA: actually I leave the skin on and remove after it's poached then refrigerate overnight and the fat rises to the top and hardens and is removed easily or used as schmaltz, love schmaltz lol.0 -
20 years ago, I spent three years in vegetarian yoga centers and to this day I will not eat tofu or oatmeal, and I'm fine with that.
However, I am curious as to how you were cooking your chicken breast, because there are plenty of terrible ways to do that. I fully support you moving on as long as you weren't inadvertently making shoe leather
I say the same thing to people who "don't like vegetables" - try cooking them differently.
I do like the flavor of chicken thighs better the first day they are cooked, but think breast holds up better as a leftover.1 -
cdennis9154 wrote: »I haven't eaten chicken since 1974 (at least not intentionally!) . . . or beef, or fish. I lost weight fine (and yes, I get plenty of protein). No particular food is essential for weight loss.
Sure, chicken is a calorie-efficient protein source. So are quite a few other things. If you like the others better, definitely eat those instead of chicken. Life is too short to eat unenjoyable food, IMO.
So what do you eat ?
I'm ovo-lacto vegetarian, have been for 49+ years. My main protein sources are dairy foods (no added sugar), traditional soy foods like tempeh and tofu, other legumes, very occasional eggs, small amounts of nuts/seeds/grains, . . . . etc.
I'm not suggesting you should become vegetarian.
It doesn't cause weight loss, it isn't IMO healthier than eating omnivorously.
All I'm saying is that reasonable health and nutrition is attainable entirely without chicken, and even without other meat/fish. You should be fine eating meats or fish/seafood that you enjoy.1 -
I feel you. I jazz it up, slice it up and mix it up into a salad. In isolation its bland.1
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I read somewhere that there are over 100 varieties of meats … plenty to choose from if chicken breast has become too blah for you.
A few possibilities in the poultry fam: pheasant, duck, goose, ostrich (my fav) , quail, Cornish game hen, emu, turkey..
Red meat: venison, lamb, goat, bison, boar. …
Maybe try something new at the butcher shop? Can be fun experimenting with new finds if you are bored.3 -
And if you buy high welfare (free range etc) chicken - every bit of it tastes so much better, with much more flavour….it is definitely worth the extra money on taste grounds alone IMO.
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gentlygently wrote: »And if you buy high welfare (free range etc) chicken - every bit of it tastes so much better, with much more flavour….it is definitely worth the extra money on taste grounds alone IMO.
Thanks for the tips. I've slowly began making the transition to organic and pasture raised chicken/eggs and grass fed beef. Next will be veggies and fruits. Just want to make sure I'm putting the best quality food in my body
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SafariGalNYC wrote: »I read somewhere that there are over 100 varieties of meats … plenty to choose from if chicken breast has become too blah for you.
A few possibilities in the poultry fam: pheasant, duck, goose, ostrich (my fav) , quail, Cornish game hen, emu, turkey..
Red meat: venison, lamb, goat, bison, boar. …
Maybe try something new at the butcher shop? Can be fun experimenting with new finds if you are bored.
All.good suggestions ! I do love goat and lamb. I'm intrigued by bison and maybe boar. Maybe some Cornish hen.0 -
MambokadziTatenda wrote: »I feel you. I jazz it up, slice it up and mix it up into a salad. In isolation its bland.
I'm just about Over It moving to thighs.
One last thing I'll try is a few yogurt based marinades and maybe grill them on the grill. After that. I quit lol
I did dice them up real fine and use a tzatsiki sauce and that was pretty good
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Are you using an instant-read meat thermometer? I used to always overcook chicken to be safe. This works for bone-in, skin-on thighs, but not for boneless, skinless breast.
https://www.epicurious.com/expert-advice/chicken-temperature#:~:text=For the best-tasting white,temperature of about 165°.
"... cook the meat to an internal temperature of 160°F. This temperature will continue to rise after removing the chicken from the heat, ideally to a temperature of about 165°.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Are you using an instant-read meat thermometer? I used to always overcook chicken to be safe. This works for bone-in, skin-on thighs, but not for boneless, skinless breast.
https://www.epicurious.com/expert-advice/chicken-temperature#:~:text=For the best-tasting white,temperature of about 165°.
"... cook the meat to an internal temperature of 160°F. This temperature will continue to rise after removing the chicken from the heat, ideally to a temperature of about 165°.
I probably overcook mine a bit to be safe as well. I have a thermometer that maybe I should use a bit more.
Buy even restaurant quality chicken breast prepared by someone who knows what they are doing is just horrible to me.
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If you don't like chicken breast don't eat it.
Or for now anyway - have it again in future if you like. Or not, if you don't.0 -
I honestly can't remember the last time I had chicken breast. Even on a roasted whole chicken it's the least flavorful and driest and super easy to overcook. My go to meat proteins in order of most consumed are:
- Boneless/skinless chicken thighs
- Talapia
- Flank Steak
- Lean ground beef
- Salmon
- Tuna
- Pork chops/pork tenderloin
- Chicken wings0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I honestly can't remember the last time I had chicken breast. Even on a roasted whole chicken it's the least flavorful and driest and super easy to overcook. My go to meat proteins in order of most consumed are:
- Boneless/skinless chicken thighs
- Talapia
- Flank Steak
- Lean ground beef
- Salmon
- Tuna
- Pork chops/pork tenderloin
- Chicken wings
@cwolfman13 How do you cook pork tenderloin? I'm never happy with how it comes out - too dry. If you use a thermometer, to what temperature do you cook it?0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I honestly can't remember the last time I had chicken breast. Even on a roasted whole chicken it's the least flavorful and driest and super easy to overcook. My go to meat proteins in order of most consumed are:
- Boneless/skinless chicken thighs
- Talapia
- Flank Steak
- Lean ground beef
- Salmon
- Tuna
- Pork chops/pork tenderloin
- Chicken wings
@cwolfman13 How do you cook pork tenderloin? I'm never happy with how it comes out - too dry. If you use a thermometer, to what temperature do you cook it?
140ish and let the tenderloin rest tented in foil for about 10 minutes. The temp should creep up to around 145-150. There's lots of ways to cook tenderloin. Generally I stuff it using the handle of my old fashioned potato masher, after I make a pilot hole and then using a piping bag fill it up then pan sear and then roast to those internal temps. Same same if not stuffing, pan sear then roast. There's many other methods of cooking but this is my go to and gives the best bang for the buck according to my guests.0 -
I’m with you on thinking chicken breast is mid. I have been favoring chicken drumsticks, they never get old for me
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i'm a vegetarian who gets over 140 grams of protein on workout days. i haven't eaten chicken since 1993, and to be honest, i never liked chicken breasts. i eat 0% yogurt, egg whites, protein powder, edamame, tempeh, lean high protein tofu and stuff made with it (which is usually tastier than anything i can make with it). cottage cheese, cheese, and the list goes on.
when i was still eating meat and bodybuilding, i used to eat tons of tuna and protein bars, sometimes lean beef, egg whites, and more tuna... i only ate chicken breasts that were so marinated that i couldn't taste what they were
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gains4lif3 wrote: »I’m with you on thinking chicken breast is mid. I have been favoring chicken drumsticks, they never get old for me
They are the worst. I'd rather not eat than have them. I've been eating thighs lately and I'm not going back0 -
zebasschick wrote: »i'm a vegetarian who gets over 140 grams of protein on workout days. i haven't eaten chicken since 1993, and to be honest, i never liked chicken breasts. i eat 0% yogurt, egg whites, protein powder, edamame, tempeh, lean high protein tofu and stuff made with it (which is usually tastier than anything i can make with it). cottage cheese, cheese, and the list goes on.
when i was still eating meat and bodybuilding, i used to eat tons of tuna and protein bars, sometimes lean beef, egg whites, and more tuna... i only ate chicken breasts that were so marinated that i couldn't taste what they were
I'm working on revising my diet to include many non chicken breast items.i hate them. Thanks for the insight.0
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