Anyone using injectible weight loss meds ? (Ozempic, etc.)
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For those of you with the nausea side effect, how did you manage this?1
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I too was successful with Phen/fen because it changed my brain chemistry to mimic people with normal relationships with food. With Phen/fen, I was able to get full when I ate. Without it I could continue eating and never feel full. With Phen/fen I wasn’t obsessed with when my next meal would come and what I was going to eat. Without it the focus was entirely on food 24/7. The effect of these drugs on people’s brains is proof positive that this is a brain chemistry problem that the medication solves. This is very similar to an antidepressant changing brain chemistry for someone who has depression.6
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I started on May 11, 2024. My doctor was concerned about my BMI and my weight She put me on 2.5 Zepbound, along with a low-cal diet, and try to increase my exercise as able. I have Modic type 1 endplate changes to my endplates in my spine. It's very painful! I had multiple surgeries in 2023, but my Neurosurgeon said there is nothing more he can do, the risks far outweigh the benefits. I have gained weight from being practically immobile for a year now. I stretch every day, some things I can't do, but I have a health coach and I work with a Physical Therapist to adjust my exercises when needed.
I had my first dose on Monday, 5/14/24 and I have followed the low-cal diet and not hungry at all. I feel fatigued but am increasing my protein and electrolytes. I am excited to walk (I use a walker because my Modic Type 1 changes cause me to randomly fall).. Anyway, I am excited and motivated and staying very positive! I am only 60 years old!6 -
I started Zepbound last week. Other than a headache the day after the first dose I didn’t have any problems. I have to lose about 70 lbs, high cholesterol and high blood pressure, pre diabetes. I have been somewhat successful with just calorie counting, a few times I’ve lost 20-30 lbs only to regain so I decided to try something else.
I’m disappointed with the naysayers who seem to think we’re just not trying hard enough. I need to get out of the yo yo mindset. I’ve never been able to get to an average weight on my own, months of restriction just to put it right back on.3 -
Just commenting here... the pharmaceutical companies encourage obesity. They make money on it. Its their cash cow, so to speak.
The semaglutide will ONLY work if you are not eating junk, and are elevating your physicality. Otherwise, it is just a fad without any true purpose besides making the pharmaceutical companies richer. And they know that further down the line, you will be ready to take more of their meds that enable you to still eat like crap.
I got my bloodwork back from the doc. Tris, lipids and liver enzymes all pre-cardiac arrest. I know there is one surefire cure: eating right, eating less, losing weight and increasing cardio activity. And it all sums up to will power.
I made a deal with him. I am going to lose weight in 2 months, and if my blood panel isn't down, I will get on the cholesterol meds until they are.
I say all that to just make sure you only use meds until you don't have to. And most of the meds manufactured for metabolic disease most people don't need permanently. Treat it as a medical condition, not a stigma. The medical condition is poor bloodwork from poor diet and lethargy. Change that, and everything else is icing.
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I’m disappointed with the naysayers who seem to think we’re just not trying hard enough. I need to get out of the yo yo mindset. I’ve never been able to get to an average weight on my own, months of restriction just to put it right back on.
Its not necessarily your fault. Its free-market corporate America. Most ads are about things to make you obese, or to eventually deal with the results of your obesity. Fat people make companies rich. They buy the meds, they buy the bigger sizes, they give in to temptation at literally every corner from their stressful job. They watch tv, where every other ad is either about crappy food they shouldn't eat, or a medication because they do.
Ive been lucky to this point. I am at the limit of "I don't need medication". But I am probably 10 years or less away from a cardiac event if nothing changes. And my father just had a triple bypass, after a near-fatal heart attack. This is a man that didn't take any meds. Now, he is on 10 different meds to cure his heart. So I am mentally motivated to do better. Bring it on, corporate America.0 -
My husband started on Zepbound a few months ago. All that did was make him feel sick and he didn't lose much weight. With he shortage of Zepbound, he was then put on Ozempic which is working fabulously for him.
For those with the negative comments about these weight loss injections. You are insensitive and don't know what you're talking about. I don't like that my husband is on a drug. But, when he talks openly with me about his struggle with constant hunger and how he felt helpless and doomed... and now he has hope and he can for the first time in his life eat like a "normal" person and think about food with reason. It almost makes me cry. I have no idea ..and neither do you.. of what bigger struggles other people have with what seems "controllable and sensible". Criticizing someone else's path to wellness; are the remarks of a know-it-all bore.9 -
Criticizing someone else's path to wellness; are the remarks of a know-it-all bore.
Agreed - self righteous know it all comments don't help anyone.6 -
I'm on Ozempic to manage my diabetes and have been for 4 1/2 years. For me, it's just another tool. I know it isn't a miracle drug and I have worked hard to change my eating habits. My taste buds have changed so much. Most desserts are way too sweet and I used to have the biggest sweet tooth. I eat tons of vegetables and lean proteins. If it were more affordable, I would eat so much more seafood than I do because I love it now. If I had to pick a favorite food, it would be shrimp. I'm not perfect. I still eat too many carbs some days. I feel like the medication helps me feel full faster so that I am less likely to overeat, but I have had to learn to listen to my body and not eat emotionally. I am down roughly 85 pounds, which is not much considering how long it has taken me and how far I still have to go, but I just keep plugging along, refusing to give up, knowing that I'm still better off than I was.9
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Yes it’s really helped me stay in control and is helping me as I learn without all the food noise
I started taking ozempic 23rd May 2024. I have a strong family history of Diabetes and have tried everything to lose weight - which I succeed, and then put it all back on. I have been YoYo'ing all my adult life, and have other health issues because of my weight including high blood pressure and very sore knees and hips. I haven't been able to put my finger on it but thankyou - I don't have that "food noise" in my head which screams at me everytime I feel the slightest bit hungry, and when I start eating I cannot stop. The receptor in my brain that tells me I am full takes a good 2 hours to work, and at that point I have well and truly over eaten. I am now very much in control as the appetite just isn't there anymore. I believe that I just needed a little help for my Pancreas to release a bit more insulin as my food intake has been pretty healthy. I don't eat fast foods, or sugary treats, and I stick to 1200 calories a day in order to create a deficit. I feel like the semi glutide is keeping me on an even keel, and I have lost 9.7 pounds (4.4 kgs) in 5 weeks of starting the medication, with minimum side effects. I am still in the Obese category, and I just want to get to a point where I am in a normal and healthy weight range.
I sometimes feel a bit nauseous but nothing I can't handle. I don't judge anyone that has tried semiglutide to try and get out of the Obese and overweight categories, but those who only have a few kgs to lose (who are still in the healthy weight categories, and want to take semiglutide for esthetic purposes) should perhaps try other methods before messing around with such a potent drug.4 -
CrazyMermaid1 wrote: »Some of the comments here are in the same realm as the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps like the rest of us do” world of people with severe mental illness (like me). Different brains work differently. Sometimes it’s all-encompassing physical hunger brought on by medication or stress. If a drug can take that focus on food away and help someone think normally about food, then I’m all for it. I don’t understand the logic of thinking it’s cheating.
I understand. My son gained 60 pounds his first year on medication for his mental illness. That seems to be the average. He's hungry 24/7. If he has insomnia, which he does often, he wants to eat all night.
I believe that the medication that turns down the amount of dopamine in his brain also turns down the hormones that tell him he's full.
He tries very hard, exercises for hours and eats a vegan diet but still gains. If the injectibles are working for you that is wonderful. Let no one tell you you're not working as hard at it as they are because it is a much harder battle for you than for them from start to finish.6 -
I tried Semaglutide and it worked for a few lbs in the first month or two but then stopped working. I ran out of money to put into it and then I had to have three pretty big surgeries, two were emergency (related) and one was repair on a knee so I could get my active lifestyle back. In March I started back to try to lose weight on my own since I had hit my highest weight ever. (212 lbs) . I am dealing with perimenopause symptom which regardless of what people are saying out here on some of the groups, seriously has impacted my metabolism (which was always on the slower side anyways)
So now I am calorie counting and food tracking, increasing protein and was doing relatively well and got down to 201.00 at end of May. This past month I have lost and gained the same 4 lbs over and over for 4 weeks. Stuck at around 200 lbs. I manage my hunger just fine with increased water intake and fiber. I am working out both Cardio and strength and I am pretty active. SO, I am considering going back on one of the GLP meds ( a different one than what I was on previously) to see if it can help get me unstuck...but need to see what I can find that might be affordable. Paying $1200 a month for meds is not in the budget5 -
I have my prescription in hand.
Not for weight loss but for NAFLD.
We’ll see if my insurance covers it….
My dr did cover a long list of potential side effects. Some potentially very serious.
But an unhealthy liver is also sub-optimal, even if I don’t drink or do other things that make the liver work extra hard. So ya.
I’m willing to take a shot. Pun intended.5 -
Drugs for weight loss is a temporary bandaid at best.2
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »Drugs for weight loss is a temporary bandaid at best.
Or…. Perhaps it’s OK to use the tools available? Especially when accompanied by the support and supervision of an individual’s medical team?
I didn’t ask my doctor to be prescribed a semeglutide. My doctor suggested it to me because, even though I have already lost a significant amount of weight, it has not helped my NAFLD.
I don’t think anyone is saying that weight loss drugs are a magic trick. I think we are acknowledging that theses drugs need to be used alongside exercise, habit changes, and good diet choices.
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »Drugs for weight loss is a temporary bandaid at best.
Or…. Perhaps it’s OK to use the tools available? Especially when accompanied by the support and supervision of an individual’s medical team?
I didn’t ask my doctor to be prescribed a semeglutide. My doctor suggested it to me because, even though I have already lost a significant amount of weight, it has not helped my NAFLD.
I don’t think anyone is saying that weight loss drugs are a magic trick. I think we are acknowledging that theses drugs need to be used alongside exercise, habit changes, and good diet choices.
They work when the person has a clear understanding of proper use and implements a lifestyle change post medication however that isn’t always the case.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »Drugs for weight loss is a temporary bandaid at best.
Or…. Perhaps it’s OK to use the tools available? Especially when accompanied by the support and supervision of an individual’s medical team?
I didn’t ask my doctor to be prescribed a semeglutide. My doctor suggested it to me because, even though I have already lost a significant amount of weight, it has not helped my NAFLD.
I don’t think anyone is saying that weight loss drugs are a magic trick. I think we are acknowledging that theses drugs need to be used alongside exercise, habit changes, and good diet choices.
They work when the person has a clear understanding of proper use and implements a lifestyle change post medication however that isn’t always the case.
This post is a support post for people who are using semeglutides, which are prescribed by their medical team. This process often involves some kind of weight management program.
We already know that habit changes, managing calorie intake, and exercising in an appropriate manner are an important part of the process. What that looks like will be different for each individual, and will likely be managed with the assistance of the individual’s medical team.
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Not using it, but I have been reading about it - it's terribly expensive for a drug you may have to stay on forever in order to maintain the results. And there are unknown long term risks. But then, you do have to weigh the risks against the risks of long-term morbid obesity.
It does appear that statistically people regain 70% of the weight within a year of going off it, which speaks to a lack of learning new habits among the general population that is using it. So I think if someone wants to use it, they should combine it with a lot of other support, intentional habit training, and possibly therapy.
This interview is interesting if you have a couple of hours to invest. He uses Ozempic and recently wrote a book. https://youtu.be/0YMnHNIuK3M?si=faYI4VQBsX9F2pJX2 -
Just read the above referenced Magic Pill by Johann Hari. The info on the latest injectibles in the first part of the book provides a good overview along with his personal experience before filling the remainder of the book with boilerplate diet advice and un-unique observations. The interview was more helpful than his book.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »Drugs for weight loss is a temporary bandaid at best.
Or…. Perhaps it’s OK to use the tools available? Especially when accompanied by the support and supervision of an individual’s medical team?
I didn’t ask my doctor to be prescribed a semeglutide. My doctor suggested it to me because, even though I have already lost a significant amount of weight, it has not helped my NAFLD.
I don’t think anyone is saying that weight loss drugs are a magic trick. I think we are acknowledging that theses drugs need to be used alongside exercise, habit changes, and good diet choices.
They work when the person has a clear understanding of proper use and implements a lifestyle change post medication however that isn’t always the case.
I think both of these points are very important.
As I said on the previous page, the first one happened to me back in the 90s when Fenfluramine was withdrawn from the market.
If it's "not working" what may in fact be going on is that it's not enough to effortlessly create a calorie deficit. The formula is not (Inject Drug = Lose Weight,) it's (Inject Drug + Eat Less/Move More = Lose Weight.)
Lots of people have said semaglutides reduce food noise so that it's easy to (eat less and thus) lose weight, but I'm sure this isn't universally easy.3
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