Yep, lets do that.
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Drains: they're probably pulled before I get home. If they stay longer then my gp (totally an alley) has said he wants to pull them. ๐ But yeah, I have some ideas about clothing, and I got a drain bottle holder (kind of like a belt) for free. We'll see. And hair washing... I have short hair, and worst case I won't be washing them for a bit longer. It'll work out somehow. And worst case: I'm very flexible. I'm sure I'll find a way to do this.2
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Best of luck w/the surgery... and good healing!!!0
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Mine was just a reduction, but I thought I knew better than the doctor when I was โreadyโ. This was still in my obese days, and โreadyโ simply meant my morning stretch. I didnโt do anything more challenging than that in those days.
I burst almost all the stitches and reheating was a *kitten*. It took months.
Breast tissue is as thin as Kleenex tissue and about as sturdy when wet and oozing. (TMI!!!)
Be smarter than me. Pay attention to everything your doctor tells you and follow through.
BTW I absolutely hated the โbeforeโ and โafterโ photos. Supposedly my identifying features were cropped out but to this day I have the heebie jeebies about that. I wasnโt given the option to refuse. I donโt know if it was for malpractice sake, or for his website, but I suspect the latter.
Much success to you, little pain, and may you achieve all you hoped for and more.1 -
@springlering62 wait, they put before/after photos of you on their website?!? That's totally not a thing here. Surgeons don't put up photos at all, and only share with people during a consult if you consent to it. I didn't, thus nobody will see my chesticles ๐ But yeah, I went to see 4 different surgeons and then decided on the most popular here in this country for gender affirming chest things.2
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springlering62 wrote: ยปMine was just a reduction, but I thought I knew better than the doctor when I was โreadyโ. This was still in my obese days, and โreadyโ simply meant my morning stretch. I didnโt do anything more challenging than that in those days.
I burst almost all the stitches and reheating was a *kitten*. It took months.
Breast tissue is as thin as Kleenex tissue and about as sturdy when wet and oozing. (TMI!!!)
Be smarter than me. Pay attention to everything your doctor tells you and follow through.
BTW I absolutely hated the โbeforeโ and โafterโ photos. Supposedly my identifying features were cropped out but to this day I have the heebie jeebies about that. I wasnโt given the option to refuse. I dyonโt know if it was for malpractice sake, or for his website, but I suspect the latter.
Much success to you, little pain, and may you achieve all you hoped for and more.
Total removal is a substantially easier surgery (for the patient) than lumpectomy, so I'm guessing it's substantially easier than reduction, too. With removing some breast tissue (but not all) the weight of the remaining breast is a complicating factor during healing. With the full removal, there's no breast tissue left to conspire with gravity to stretch out incisions, or bounce around with movement.
Nonetheless, I absolutely endorse your recommendation not to exceed doctor guidance about when it's OK to do normal stuff.2 -
Oh yeah, totally agree with listening to doctor. I love working out and I know I won't be able to do anything for 6 weeks. I also won't be able to carry more than 5kg for a while and already bought a trolley for groceries. The supermarket is just around the corner, thus no problem. What causes me most worries is my letterbox, which is at head height, with the lock too high up. No idea yet.2
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springlering62 wrote: ยปMine was just a reduction, but I thought I knew better than the doctor when I was โreadyโ. This was still in my obese days, and โreadyโ simply meant my morning stretch. I didnโt do anything more challenging than that in those days.
I burst almost all the stitches and reheating was a *kitten*. It took months.
Breast tissue is as thin as Kleenex tissue and about as sturdy when wet and oozing. (TMI!!!)
Be smarter than me. Pay attention to everything your doctor tells you and follow through.
BTW I absolutely hated the โbeforeโ and โafterโ photos. Supposedly my identifying features were cropped out but to this day I have the heebie jeebies about that. I wasnโt given the option to refuse. I dyonโt know if it was for malpractice sake, or for his website, but I suspect the latter.
Much success to you, little pain, and may you achieve all you hoped for and more.
Total removal is a substantially easier surgery (for the patient) than lumpectomy, so I'm guessing it's substantially easier than reduction, too. With removing some breast tissue (but not all) the weight of the remaining breast is a complicating factor during healing. With the full removal, there's no breast tissue left to conspire with gravity to stretch out incisions, or bounce aroun d with movement.
Nonetheless, I absolutely endorse your recommendation not to exceed doctor guidance about when it's OK to do normal stuff.
Rereading this, I feel like I should clarify: When I say "easier surgery for the patient", I mean to be talking about only the purely physical aspects of healing and recovery. Believe me, I know that the emotional and psychological aspects of these surgeries are many, and the experiences for any given individual in that respect will be . . . well, close to unique to that individual.
I'd expect Yirara's purely physical experience with surgery/healing to have some similarities to mine, but our reasons for having the surgeries are wildly, extremely different . . . of course!2 -
springlering62 wrote: ยปMine was just a reduction, but I thought I knew better than the doctor when I was โreadyโ. This was still in my obese days, and โreadyโ simply meant my morning stretch. I didnโt do anything more challenging than that in those days.
I burst almost all the stitches and reheating was a *kitten*. It took months.
Breast tissue is as thin as Kleenex tissue and about as sturdy when wet and oozing. (TMI!!!)
Be smarter than me. Pay attention to everything your doctor tells you and follow through.
BTW I absolutely hated the โbeforeโ and โafterโ photos. Supposedly my identifying features were cropped out but to this day I have the heebie jeebies about that. I wasnโt given the option to refuse. I dyonโt know if it was for malpractice sake, or for his website, but I suspect the latter.
Much success to you, little pain, and may you achieve all you hoped for and more.
Total removal is a substantially easier surgery (for the patient) than lumpectomy, so I'm guessing it's substantially easier than reduction, too. With removing some breast tissue (but not all) the weight of the remaining breast is a complicating factor during healing. With the full removal, there's no breast tissue left to conspire with gravity to stretch out incisions, or bounce aroun d with movement.
Nonetheless, I absolutely endorse your recommendation not to exceed doctor guidance about when it's OK to do normal stuff.
I'd expect Yirara's purely physical experience with surgery/healing to have some similarities to mine, but our reasons for having the surgeries are wildly, extremely different . . . of course!
Yes, I think so. I don't know anyone personally who had to have their breasts removed due to health reasons. I was super happy when I had a second shoulder surgery because I was confident I'll be better thereafter, but losing a bodypart one probably identifies with can be hard I imagine. โค๏ธ For me, I hope I'll experience euphoria, but there's still the risk that I won't love it in the end, despite wanting this (without knowing mostly it was an option) for over 30 years ๐ But I'm confident that I adapt to most situations, thus I'm not too worried. โค๏ธ
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All done, and released from hospital after 3 days (3-5 is normal here, depending on hospital). I feel great. In a way I'd love to go running now but am not allowed yet obviously ๐8
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The analogy may perhaps sound strange, but I'm sort of imagining the no more boobs feeling to be like going from long to short hair. That strange feeling when you're washing or brushing your hair and your hands move through air where more hair used to be and your brain hasn't caught up yet. ยดhey, where did the rest go' ๐
Well, having your hair cut is a lot less painful obviously, so I wish you a speedy recovery!3 -
The analogy may perhaps sound strange, but I'm sort of imagining the no more boobs feeling to be like going from long to short hair. That strange feeling when you're washing or brushing your hair and your hands move through air where more hair used to be and your brain hasn't caught up yet. ยดhey, where did the rest go' ๐
Well, having your hair cut is a lot less painful obviously, so I wish you a speedy recovery!
Haha! Actually, having my hair cut feels more painful because sudden cold air on my scalp triggers some kind of migraine ๐ while I've not been in pain at all. Well, the surgeon gave the area in front of my armpits a bit of lipo per my request, and that actually hurts.. well, not hurts, but I can feel it. First night I woke up on my side, drain and all. I guess I'm made of iron girders ๐คฃ But I feel great. I'm also not totally flat, but there's a tiny bit left. Not that I can see it at the moment with all the swelling ๐ But yeah, I feel great overall.8 -
Oooh! I'm so glad to hear you aren't in a lot of pain. :flowerforyou:
Good for you, you're on your way.
How long till you can exercise?1 -
cmriverside wrote: ยปOooh! I'm so glad to hear you aren't in a lot of pain. :flowerforyou:
Good for you, you're on your way.
How long till you can exercise?
Aww, thanks milky glass! Not this year anymore. Well, I can walk, and that's something I'll do. Sneaked out of hospital and into the woods two days after surgery to go find a geocache ๐1 -
Heh heh. Sounds like a good idea! I have to get outside, walking will be great.
I hope your healing goes smoothly and you continue to feel good.2 -
Congratulations!
Probably hard to tell what the exact final look will be until the swelling goes down and drains are out (if not out already).
Your scars (if any) will probably be tidier than mine, but in my case one side looks vaguely like a faint no-eyes smiley face. Maybe I need stick-on plastic googly eyes.
Where you are, do they give you stretchy-type exercises to do after that surgery at some point in the healing to keep scar tissue from tightening? They do here, for post-mastectomy. I think they helped.
Sending well-wishes for speedy healing and an excellent long-term outcome!1 -
Congratulations!
Probably hard to tell what the exact final look will be until the swelling goes down and drains are out (if not out already).
Your scars (if any) will probably be tidier than mine, but in my case one side looks vaguely like a faint no-eyes smiley face. Maybe I need stick-on plastic googly eyes.
Where you are, do they give you stretchy-type exercises to do after that surgery at some point in the healing to keep scar tissue from tightening? They do here, for post-mastectomy. I think they helped.
Sending well-wishes for speedy healing and an excellent long-term outcome!
Everyone and everything needs stick-on googly eyes!
Drains are out, thus there's a bit more swelling now. And stretching... the general opinion in the community is to be very careful for the first bit and to not lift arms above shoulder height. We'll see how this goes. But so far everything looks extremely neat. So lets see.3 -
If they don't give you exercises after that first bit, I'd suggest maybe looking up some of them on US (and maybe other) post-mastectomy web sites, and seeing what you think. It's not "exercise" in a standard sense.
For example, one I remember was standing facing a wall, up close (nose lightly touching, even), then walking one's hand up the wall (nearby to the torso) to a point where there is just a tiny stretch feeling (not pain!). Easy, but I think oddly helpful . . . like so many other physical therapy type interventions that seem super mild, but mysteriously seem to give results. Bodies are weird.
But yeah, not to do at all until healing is getting pretty well underway. Best wishes!2 -
Ah yes, this exercise! I remember it from my shoulder surgery. Thanks a lot, Ann. I think I got rid of the post-surgery bloat, and realize again that I need to eat a lot because I'm now lower weight than pre-surgery minus the bit of stuff removed. Yay, lots and lots of lovely food for me!2
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I feel you. I'm currently recovering from a fall (small skull fracture, small brain bleed) on Nov 9. I'm trying to eat over maintenance, but fear I'm losing a little anyway.
Don't get me wrong: In the abstract it'd be good if I creep down maybe 5 pounds/2 kg, but this is not the time!
So yeah, @yirara, eat those calories! ๐4 -
I feel you. I'm currently recovering from a fall (small skull fracture, small brain bleed) on Nov 9. I'm trying to eat over maintenance, but fear I'm losing a little anyway.
Don't get me wrong: In the abstract it'd be good if I creep down maybe 5 pounds/2 kg, but this is not the time!
So yeah, @yirara, eat those calories! ๐
Oh no! I hope you're on the mend, Ann 2kg is nothing in the grand scheme of things, thus yeah, you (and me) need to eat enough. Sending you swift healing wishes, and virtual cake ๐ฐ2 -
Oh no, @AnnPT77! Yikes, sorry to hear about your fall! I hope you are doing okay and completely better soon.3
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Yes, I'm recovering, just frustratingly slowly (isn't it always frustratingly slow to the person doing it? )
But I didn't mean to hijack yirara's thread here by saying that. (Right now, it's just my everyday humdrum, fact, NBD, y'know?)
Focus here ought to be on yirara's healing . . . which I hope will go fast, even if subjectively frustratingly slowly.5 -
Best wishes for happy healthy pain free healing and the other stuff that goes with. Iโm sure this is all a huge mental whackamole to negotiate. ๐1
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Yes, I'm recovering, just frustratingly slowly (isn't it always frustratingly slow to the person doing it? )
But I didn't mean to hijack yirara's thread here by saying that. (Right now, it's just my everyday humdrum, fact, NBD, y'know?)
Focus here ought to be on yirara's healing . . . which I hope will go fast, even if subjectively frustratingly slowly.
No, it's absolutely fine! Write all you want, and especially when you're in need of very careful hugs. Also everyone else should2 -
Well I am going to wish as good as possible heeling and ALL DA (appropriate) foodz to every favourite person in need of such in this thread!
And I would expect geocachers are following their doctor's orders for best results!!!!๐ค๐ค๐ค1 -
[claire rushing out to buy google eyes] ๐คฃ5
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claireychn074 wrote: ยป[claire rushing out to buy google eyes] ๐คฃ
This is the only correct course of action! ๐๐
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Well I am going to wish as good as possible heeling and ALL DA (appropriate) foodz to every favourite person in need of such in this thread!
And I would expect geocachers are following their doctor's orders for best results!!!!๐ค๐ค๐ค
Well, yeah... apart from leaving the hospital grounds and going for a walk in the forest I've not doing a lot because the compressive vest is a bit too tight where I need space for breathing. Waiting for an extension for the lowest part to arrive ๐2 -
Pressure that restricts my breathing drives me nuts! ๐คฏ1
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Feeling fab! Survived 3 weeks. Three more weeks to go until I am allowed to exercise again. The compressive vest sits better now. Swelling is minimal, and I'm sooooo happy with how I look like. ๐ฅฐ Like in hospital a day after surgery the surgeon came in to check, I saw the result for the first time and I went like 'yeah, that's that' and went on surfing the net and killing time. It was always mean to be like this.8
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